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To Lesbian slaves.... - 5/6/2010 4:21:18 AM

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First of all, I'm rather new here, so this is actually my first post. Hi.

Here's something I've been wondering about trying for a while now, but I figured I should see just what people thought about it before giving it a go: I'm a male, but I'm particularly interested in finding myself a bisexual female or (preferably) a lesbian slave. I know that in a lot of cases, these women have no desire to be with men, but if I isolate sexuality from the rest of servitude, would that change how you might feel about it? I'm not sure where the appeal for this idea comes from, but it's there and I want to explore it. The general role in slavery seems rather straightforward, but there are some areas where I could forsee problems--or opportunities. So, say you would be willing to go for it. How, then, would you feel about:

-sleeping together (without sexual implications). Sometimes, it's just nice to have someone nearby.
-affection, in general.
-forced sexual interaction with another female. No personal involvement on my part.
-forced sexual ineraction with another female I was currently with (although still not touching you myself)
-corporal punishment (by my hand), for the masochistic sorts.

It seemed there were a few other things, but they've slipped my mind for the time being. At any rate, I'd love to discuss the possibilities behind this and to hear what everyone else has to say on the matter.

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RE: To Lesbian slaves.... - 5/6/2010 6:32:36 AM

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I'm not following. It seems like you want a slave for various things, and figure if she's a lesbian, the sex is off the table?

A slave who serves but not sexually is a service slave. It's be a heckuva lot easier to find a nonlesbian one. :Lesbians aren't common, lesbian slaves are less common, and one that would want to serve a man...

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RE: To Lesbian slaves.... - 5/6/2010 6:36:23 AM

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It's less that the sex is off the table and more that I won't be participating myself, so far as she's concerned. The question is, how does she feel about what she does do still being controlled by the whims of a man.

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RE: To Lesbian slaves.... - 5/6/2010 7:20:30 AM

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You'd have to ask a lesbian slave.

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RE: To Lesbian slaves.... - 5/6/2010 7:38:16 AM

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I love how the thread after this one is "Finding a way to eat" followed by "Strange feeling"

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RE: To Lesbian slaves.... - 5/6/2010 9:01:38 AM

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You'd have to ask a lesbian slave.

In all fairness, the Op *DID* attempt to ask lesbian slaves. :P Hence the non-vague title of the OP, eh? Jeesh.

I am not heavily involved with a lot of people who identify as lesbians... I know a few... and of that group, a significant percentage really don't like even hanging around with hetero men. Perhaps there's an uncomfortable dynamic there? But... this is just speculation on my part. I think overall you'd have a really hard time finding somebody who'd be willing to serve in this capacity, but then again I identify as Gorean, so I understand the difficulties with "niche preferences" :P

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RE: To Lesbian slaves.... - 5/6/2010 9:05:19 AM

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I'm not a lesbian. I'm a gay female. The reason for the distinction is that within the realm of homosexual female identities, they're all fuckin politically based. There is personal political reason behind the identity because females are complicated. And that is part of the reason a lesbian will not be interested in deeply intimate relationships of the adult kind that go past friends.

Secondly, lesbians aren't big fans of the SM scene by far. Which makes "lesbian slaves" rare. Extremely rare. Often they are shunned for being out about it by other lesbians. In a world where being queer ain't always welcomed with open arms, to loose the social support of "people like me" is a huge crushing blow.

Third, there's no way they can guarantee that you won't change your agreement not to try to get sexually active. I get offers all the time, despite the obviousness of already being owned and the indicators I give as such, by men telling me how they've always wanted a "boi". It wouldn't be sexual of course no...but if I ever caught the urge.... See where this goes? And I'm not even a lesbian.

Finally, clincally speaking, being a masochist means that pain is sex. If you think homosexual females are insanely particular about how they identify themselves, do you really think they're gonna call themselves a masochist without getting off on pain? So "administering corporal punishment" is breaching the sex lines.

I'll also add, that with few exceptions, lesbians fuck like crazy for the first three years and then they experience lesbian bed death. LBD often leads to the end of a lesbian relationship. This indicates that they expect sex within their intimate beyond friendship, adult relationships.

I hope this answers your question,

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RE: To Lesbian slaves.... - 5/6/2010 9:07:29 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: bondmaid123

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You'd have to ask a lesbian slave.

In all fairness, the Op *DID* attempt to ask lesbian slaves. :P Hence the non-vague title of the OP, eh? Jeesh.

I am not heavily involved with a lot of people who identify as lesbians... I know a few... and of that group, a significant percentage really don't like even hanging around with hetero men. Perhaps there's an uncomfortable dynamic there? But... this is just speculation on my part. I think overall you'd have a really hard time finding somebody who'd be willing to serve in this capacity, but then again I identify as Gorean, so I understand the difficulties with "niche preferences" :P

Because, undoubtedly, at least one in a group of hetero men will decide it's time to ask the sexually related questions that lesbians don't like to answer much less share with men so that they can fantasize about it while said lesbian is still sitting there.

Hint: lesbians aren't lesbians for het males' sexual entertainment.

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RE: To Lesbian slaves.... - 5/6/2010 9:16:07 AM

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Hint: lesbians aren't lesbians for het males' sexual entertainment.

This.

For this reason I suspect you won't have much luck, OP.

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RE: To Lesbian slaves.... - 5/6/2010 9:16:11 AM

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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: CDNWolf

You'd have to ask a lesbian slave.

In all fairness, the Op *DID* attempt to ask lesbian slaves. :P Hence the non-vague title of the OP, eh? Jeesh.

I am not heavily involved with a lot of people who identify as lesbians... I know a few... and of that group, a significant percentage really don't like even hanging around with hetero men. Perhaps there's an uncomfortable dynamic there? But... this is just speculation on my part. I think overall you'd have a really hard time finding somebody who'd be willing to serve in this capacity, but then again I identify as Gorean, so I understand the difficulties with "niche preferences" :P

From my experience and knowing many lesbians/gay women, none have any inclinations to fully accept any male as a friend; let alone being in service to any male regardless if the service is non sexual. It is a subtle and sometimes not so subtle indication that any type of friendship or dynamic is mainly superficial and rare when it gets to a best buds situation. Whether this is a mutual attitude or not I have no idea though it's one which I choose not to bridge that gap and prefer to associate among my own kind.

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RE: To Lesbian slaves.... - 5/6/2010 9:20:08 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: CDNWolf

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ORIGINAL: bondmaid123

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ORIGINAL: CDNWolf

You'd have to ask a lesbian slave.

In all fairness, the Op *DID* attempt to ask lesbian slaves. :P Hence the non-vague title of the OP, eh? Jeesh.

I am not heavily involved with a lot of people who identify as lesbians... I know a few... and of that group, a significant percentage really don't like even hanging around with hetero men. Perhaps there's an uncomfortable dynamic there? But... this is just speculation on my part. I think overall you'd have a really hard time finding somebody who'd be willing to serve in this capacity, but then again I identify as Gorean, so I understand the difficulties with "niche preferences" :P

From my experience and knowing many lesbians/gay women, none have any inclinations to fully accept any male as a friend; let alone being in service to any male regardless if the service is non sexual. It is a subtle and sometimes not so subtle indication that any type of friendship or dynamic is mainly superficial and rare when it gets to a best buds situation. Whether this is a mutual attitude or not I have no idea though it's one which I choose not to bridge that gap and prefer to associate among my own kind.

You need to meet more lesbians. And you need to understand that het men don't often accept lesbians as "really friends" because they're not just like them. It's the same reason that not many straight s-type men will be friends with gay s-type females, they're don't understand the creature in front of them and certainly don't want to admit to having too much in common with them.

This is not universally true, just mostly true.

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Who has more straight male friends than gay female friends and more gay male friends than straight male friends...cuz that's how it works in my little world.

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RE: To Lesbian slaves.... - 5/6/2010 9:24:20 AM

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In general, belonging to someone in a non-sexual D/s relationship is limiting. Especially if this means that your sexual relationships are governed by this owner, it can be a rather difficult thing to find. Add to it that any male looking for a female slave for non-sexual control who also expects to be present for and dictate her sexual activities sounds like a wank fantasy at best, you are going to have a very hard road. You are starting off by telling someone that their sexuality is merely entertainment for you, even if the relationship wouldnt be limited to sex. You would have a difficult time finding a straight or bisexual female interested in this, even if sex with you was introduced as a possibility. Finding someone who has no sexual or romantic attachment to you to give up their life into your hands is probably nearly impossible.

What are you offering them that could possibly make this arrangement appealing, that they cant find with a female owner?

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