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ORIGINAL: auditguy

I don't understand what good or bad have to do with it?  You are either a developed country or you are developing or you are a shithole.

So you do not feel that calling a country a shithole relates your feeling that that is a bad thing??????


  Nothing to do with good or bad.  I am pretty sure Uganda is one of the good guys, it hasn't done too much to me, but it is still a backwater.  I am using first world and third world as a way to scale the progress of development for a country. 

So who is in the second world?


By the way, depending on what Greece does it could drop off the list of first world countries as quickly as it came on.  It has always been one of the countries that straddle the line.

Been straddling that line for the past fifty years.
The list above shows Greece joined in 1961


When it comes to natural monopolies the costs of establishing a means to produce certain goods and services to each household can be very large and requires large capital costs. This capital cost is a strong deterrent for possible competitors. Society benefits from having natural monopolies because having multiple firms operating in such an industry is economically inefficient.  Where there are no such inefficiencies the private will always beat the national.

So you are not in favor of competition and the free market and would instead prefer a "managed economy" free from the interference of competition that would elide to a monopoly?


The names of cities combining services can be written on the back of the napkin just for the county I live in.

The point is that there is still only one police and they are a function of the state. There are no compeating police departments.

  As for people moving out, that option is only available to the ones with enough means, and then they move to the suburb with the best services.

Before it was your position that anyone could move when they were unhappy with the cops in their town. Now you seem to agree that if you have a visa with benny's pic on it you can leave town....is that really any different in the communist countries you have visted?
Are commies just as "bribable" as capitalist?

  You are right about the need for that pic of Benny (but the great thing about the US is that the picture is easy to get if you are willing to work for it, unlike many other places).

So anyone who is not a lazy phoque can earn all the bennies they might ever need.
Somehow it does not apply to you though does it? Since all one needs to succeed is hard work why are you not more successful.
If all someone in watts needs to do to be wealthy is work hard then all of those poor people are by your definition a bunch of lazy phoques.
From the position of ted turner or adnan khashoggi you are a pauper and you,by your own definition, are such because you are too lazy to work hard enough to have what they have.
It seems so easy to see the argument when you point to someone poorer than you but a little more difficult to see yourself as the lazy phoque when compared to really "successful" people.

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Venezuela IS doing something about inflation - intimidating private sector retailers and trying to force them to sell at cost or at a loss: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Butchers-beware-Venezuela-apf-2701351594.html?x=0&.v=4

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but for the average person success (at least what I consider success) is all about hard work.

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

The CIA should take out Chaves. This time do it right and don't screw it up like 50 years ago in Cuba. Problem solved.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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but for the average person success (at least what I consider success) is all about hard work.

What do you think the "average" person could make annually with all of this hard work?

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ORIGINAL: auditguy

This argument is going nowhere, but I will say that I could like that country or hate it and it would still be a shithole.  It's nothing personal, it just is.

You did diagnose me right, I am lazy.  I mean I am in a good position make more money than the average American, let alone people my own age, and did it all from zero as a non-native born American, but I am very lazy by my own standard, if not by American.  I could have been a practicing doctor already, two years ahead of my peers, if I had only done a 6 year med program I had gotten accepted to out of high school, but I thought it would be too much of a hassle and just wanted to do the bare minimum to make good money and get out in four years (it sounds stupid when I say that now, only a few years later but that is life).  Didn't even tell my family I got into an accelerated med program cause I knew I would be kicked out if they found out I chose business over a guaranteed MD degree.  So your assessment is dead on, with the small caveat that innate ability has a lot to do with it, but for the average person success (at least what I consider success) is all about hard work. 

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ORIGINAL: Level

I'd rather see his own people do it, like the Italians did Mussolini.

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ORIGINAL: auditguy

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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but for the average person success (at least what I consider success) is all about hard work.

What do you think the "average" person could make annually with all of this hard work?

It's not about how much the average person can make annually.  Why does everything have to be about money?  Some people are just so materialistic.  It is all about how much cool stuff a person can buy annually to make them temporarily happy and forget all his/her troubles[;)]

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So your point is that you are lazy and have managed to make a little money... so that empowers you to tell others if they want to succeed like you not to be lazy like you but to work which will only make them tired and not make them wealthy but you will be able to laugh at their failed efforts while watching them being evicted on your 90" plasma screen.
I see you are interested only in humor and not in a discussion...
thanx for the heads up.

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ORIGINAL: Level

I'd rather see his own people do it, like the Italians did Mussolini.

A man twice elected to the highest office in his country you want to see murdered.
A man who gives free heating oil to the poorest people in our country you want to see murdered.
If it is a publicity stunt then the easiest way to deflat it would be for some rich american oil company to give some free heating oil to the poorest people in our country but fuck no let them go get a fucking job the lazy phoques and lets murder anyone who tries to help them.
You don't know dick about this guy but you want to see him murdered.

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ORIGINAL: Level

It's a shame Chavez didn't get popped while in jail, saving the world a bit of trouble.

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Also if it is 90 inches it isn’t going to be plasma, it's going to be a projector.

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Let's take a deep breath. The dude is a saint, we get it. Let us hope he rules for a thousand years and we all live as one happy proletariat family.

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You don't get the feeling that certain people need a refresher course for "Communism 101"?

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Sure it is...you say something stupid and I point it out.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Holy moly, Steven, thank you for the link. That article reminds me of the saying, "The beatings will continue until morale is improved".

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Venezuela IS doing something about inflation - intimidating private sector retailers and trying to force them to sell at cost or at a loss: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Butchers-beware-Venezuela-apf-2701351594.html?x=0&.v=4

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven


You're welcome, Rich.  I'm surprised that you hadn't happened upon that article yourself.

You know, it's a shame.  I'm truly in agreement with the goals of communism in some ways.  Somehow, bloodshed has always reared its ugly head under it, though.  It's odd, like seeing a bunch of flower-strewing hippies turn into the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

The article say just the opposite of what you say it says.
Chavez specifically says that fucking with the butcher is bullshit and that the wholesalers are the culprets.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Holy moly, Steven, thank you for the link. That article reminds me of the saying, "The beatings will continue until morale is improved".

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Venezuela IS doing something about inflation - intimidating private sector retailers and trying to force them to sell at cost or at a loss: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Butchers-beware-Venezuela-apf-2701351594.html?x=0&.v=4

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

The article say just the opposite of what you say it says.
Chavez specifically says that fucking with the butcher is bullshit and that the wholesalers are the culprets.