RE: Can a pro domme or pro sub legally choose their clients by race or gender or religion?

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pyroaquatic -> RE: Can a pro domme or pro sub legally choose their clients by race or gender or religion? (5/12/2010 8:34:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika quote: ORIGINAL: pyroaquatic quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi Yup, they can even pick them based on whether or not they like carrots. Imagine that.[8\|] Any little thing they want. Who is this They? The Professional Sub or Professional Dom? I'll give you a lollipop & a pat on the head. How's that? - LA Sold. I work for candy, affection, and petting. :3

laurell3 -> RE: Can a pro domme or pro sub legally choose their clients by race or gender or religion? (5/12/2010 11:02:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika quote: ORIGINAL: laurell3 Private actors CAN discriminate, so yes. Goverment or any private actors that receive goverment funds to further their business cannot, or it is "state action." I'm going to hazard a WILD guess that no pro doms are receiving government funds for their business...... Having a senator as a client doesn't count then, I guess ;-) - LA Haha theoretically no, but those are also some of the poorest people out there that I know....for the amount of hours they put in when they are in session, the pay is horrible....so they probably are using government funds to pay for their sex services! [;)] I think the law envisions LEGITIMATE government funds, so you're safe! (mostly)

asiansubmissie -> RE: Can a pro domme or pro sub legally choose their clients by race or gender or religion? (5/13/2010 9:46:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomImus Can a pro domme or pro sub legally choose their clients by race or gender or religion? Sure they can. Who is going to report them? If you did the same thing renting a house, they could sue you. If you did the same thing hiring for a job, they could sue you. Isn't a "pro" the same as hiring for a job?

CalifChick -> RE: Can a pro domme or pro sub legally choose their clients by race or gender or religion? (5/13/2010 10:18:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: asiansubmissie If you did the same thing renting a house, they could sue you. If you did the same thing hiring for a job, they could sue you. Isn't a "pro" the same as hiring for a job? No, it's not the same as hiring for employment. Even without a nifty sign on display, every business is free to "refuse service to anyone"... even if they are government funded. Someone who provides hands-on services are certainly free to refuse service to anyone they want. Massage therapists, manicurists, etc. Sexual surrogate is a legitimate, legal profession, in which a person provides sexual therapy to a client. The sexual surrogate is free to refuse to take on anyone as a client, for any reason. Just don't put up a sign that says "Whites Only". Cali

SirPumpy -> RE: Can a pro domme or pro sub legally choose their clients by race or gender or religion? (5/14/2010 12:16:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CalifChick quote: ORIGINAL: asiansubmissie If you did the same thing renting a house, they could sue you. If you did the same thing hiring for a job, they could sue you. Isn't a "pro" the same as hiring for a job? No, it's not the same as hiring for employment. Even without a nifty sign on display, every business is free to "refuse service to anyone"... even if they are government funded. Someone who provides hands-on services are certainly free to refuse service to anyone they want. Massage therapists, manicurists, etc. Sexual surrogate is a legitimate, legal profession, in which a person provides sexual therapy to a client. The sexual surrogate is free to refuse to take on anyone as a client, for any reason. Just don't put up a sign that says "Whites Only". Cali why not? Its my Omelette preference! Cholesterol ya know...........

LafayetteLady -> RE: Can a pro domme or pro sub legally choose their clients by race or gender or religion? (5/14/2010 12:39:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: asiansubmissie quote: ORIGINAL: DomImus Can a pro domme or pro sub legally choose their clients by race or gender or religion? Sure they can. Who is going to report them? If you did the same thing renting a house, they could sue you. If you did the same thing hiring for a job, they could sue you. Isn't a "pro" the same as hiring for a job? They are not the same in anyway. I guess you also feel that a prostitute must accept any john who wants to pay her for her services? A lawyer must accept any client that wants to "hire" (retain) them? While this may or may not be a purely hypothetical question, it certainly lacks any kind of common sense. If people were to tell you that it was discrimination, would the next question be how to go about sueing the pro dom/sub for refusing to provide their services?

GrizzlyBear -> RE: Can a pro domme or pro sub legally choose their clients by race or gender or religion? (5/14/2010 1:31:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: asiansubmissie quote: ORIGINAL: DomImus Can a pro domme or pro sub legally choose their clients by race or gender or religion? Sure they can. Who is going to report them? If you did the same thing renting a house, they could sue you. If you did the same thing hiring for a job, they could sue you. Isn't a "pro" the same as hiring for a job? There are Federal laws about hiring and housing discrimination. The law doesn't see you as having any rights to beat someone's ass, or getting yours beat. It's exactly the opposite. Can Wal-mart demand that anyone they please come to work for them at their terms? Hardly. I am a professional in something other than BDSM. I am quite free to choose who I accept as a client, and can use any criteria I please. Why should BDSM be any different?

Theo23 -> RE: Can a pro domme or pro sub legally choose their clients by race or gender or religion? (5/16/2010 11:12:56 PM)
I'm not a lawyer, but I suspect you may not deny service to anyone based on race or creed. This is basically impossible to enforce, becuase you can come up with any other reason you want (maybe you dont like their haircut?). But basically, businesses in the US arent allowed to descriminate. Starbucks cannot have a sign on their door saying "whites only" it's plainly illegal. I wonder where folks are getting information to the contrary? Edit: Just looked it up real quick. Here ya go... The Federal Civil Rights Act guarantees all people the right to "full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin." http://www.legalzoom.com/us-law/equal-rights/right-refuse-service

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