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I was hoping for a lively discussion with serious pros and cons. \
the closest was on anaphylactic shock which is always a consideration on any venom entering the body

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but so many items exposing some one to can create this situation many items used by DOMS can create very serious actions in sub if they are not known (know of instances of reaction to leathers, ropes, oils, etc.) So yes a concern for any play use.

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Please learn a bit about the topic if you would like to reply so we can have a valid discussion

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the closest was on anaphylactic shock which is always a consideration on any venom entering the body

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For all that replied so far, thank you for your reply and interest enough to read what was written.
So far in reading though for most part I am disappointed in the snap replies based on very little information or knowledge.
I was hoping for a lively discussion with serious pros and cons. \
the closest was on anaphylactic shock which is always a consideration on any venom entering the body and as being one stung more then 30 times by wasp as a little boy I do know some about this, but so many items exposing some one to can create this situation many items used by DOMS can create very serious actions in sub if they are not known (know of instances of reaction to leathers, ropes, oils, etc.) So yes a concern for any play use.
Next, ha good one on the size thing, sorry no do not need or care for sie drug , my partner is most happy and would prefer not to see increases. No more the sting and numbing effects and maybe some of itching.
Other things ginger, cinnamon, bengay or equiv. have played with all and each is unique to feeling and effect, like flogger versus crop. (oh some are allergic to some of that stuff and have seen serious chemical burns as a reaction possible from any chemical item such as metholatum or bengay etc.)

In general all BDSM has chance for bad effect or even death. But still many here us or sek these items and so many take time to point out the possible drawbacks all the while say well what I do is ok been done for years and I could never have a problem. Lets start with electro play of any kind, (my edge here as I have 40 years of electronics related experience) I can clearly say it is a specific amount of current that kills but that is so full of variables based on the body condition, body resistance is not measured by a DOM to make sure no way can leathel shcok can occur and there is no clear way to do so, but for a great percentage of play all is safe enought we use it and accept it for play, selling electro sex toys all over the net.
Leather flogging , crops wood paddles etc. all again toys of play and use but at any given time a body can have a reaction to the abuse to it cells causing damage or death many cases of blood rushung to affected area and situation in right mode the body fails. Again well all DOMS and masters of use and know how to use things and limits and such, sorry but scorpion venonm still is looking just as safe.
Quoting from scientific journals: "Despite their bad reputation, only one species in the western U.S. (the bark scorpion, Centruroides exilicauda) and about 25 others worldwide have venom potent enough to be considered dangerous to humans."
Rope play can cause nerve damage if miss used, how about insertions of toys, are we sterile for sure and can we be sure not to rupture a lining wall, oh and my favorite practice out there: golden showers and SCAT play whoa talk about a bullet in a gun.
Heck even the fast food has trouble heating and killing E-Coli.
And last wile I am still in my ranting and ravings those who use drugs for play sure all sorts of things to alter the experience both legal and illegal (viagra to cocaine) but they all can kill if used by wrong person or in wrong manor.

By the way scorpion s have been used for 100s of year not making them good or bad but they have been used before so was hoping to find out some serious answers with a open minded consideration on the prospect.



Please learn a bit about the topic if you would like to reply so we can have a valid discussion

1. If you wanted to simply spark a general discussion about the possible use of scorpion venom as a pain play method, you have succeeded.
2. If you were indeed asking for people's input prior to this experiment, you got them but don't become defensive when there is a resounding negative reaction to your idea. Forgetting the comments about your sanity  (If you live long enough and reach my age people stop calling you insane and fondly (mostly) call you eccentric), most comments were to warn you of the clear and present danger of introducing toxins into your body especially if you do not have sufficient medical help on hand.
   
3. As tigreesa commented, if you wanted to start and have a good intelligent debate on the subject of using scorpion venom, it would be a good idea to study the subject including the variations between species and subspecies and their specific types of poisons as well as some medical understanding as to the effects of each venom type. This is not a huge task if you have the time to Google and use other research areas. 

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I think the Op is being a bit of a wimp playing with tiny little scorpions... I think he should man up and get himself some antivenom and breakout the rattlesnakes...

Better idea. Definitely keep the snakes but add..... Handcuffed to the wall. Key in melting ice cube above hands. Anti venom juuuuuuuuuuuuuust out of reach without being un cuffed.

Will the ice cube melt in time........tick tick tick.....

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For all that replied so far, thank you for your reply and interest enough to read what was written.
So far in reading though for most part I am disappointed in the snap replies based on very little information or knowledge.
I was hoping for a lively discussion with serious pros and cons. \
the closest was on anaphylactic shock which is always a consideration on any venom entering the body and as being one stung more then 30 times by wasp as a little boy I do know some about this,

Quoting from scientific journals: "Despite their bad reputation, only one species in the western U.S. (the bark scorpion, Centruroides exilicauda) and about 25 others worldwide have venom potent enough to be considered dangerous to humans."

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http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1993-04.html

Doctors warn of a dangerous new method of cocaine abuse: injecting the drug directly into the urinary tract. Physicians from New York Hospital-Cornell Medical Center reported the case of a 34-year-old man who suffered severe bleeding under the skin after pumping cocaine into his urethra. It led to complications that destroyed his penis, nine fingers, and parts of his legs. "They fill an eye dropper or a syringe with a cocaine solution and inject it into the penis," said Dr. Samuel Perry, a professor of clinical psychiatry.
The man had injected cocaine before intercourse in an effort to enhance sexual performance. He was admitted to the hospital because his penis had remained erect for three days, resulting in a painful inability to urinate. The medical term for a prolonged erection is "priapism." On his third day in the hospital, the man's erection suddenly subsided. Over the next 12 hours, blood leaked into the tissues of his feet, hands, genitals, back and chest. Blood coagulation caused tissues to die over large areas of the patient's body, and he was transferred to the burn unit of New York Hospital-Cornell Medical Center.
Doctors there were forced to amputate the man's legs above the knee and all but one of his fingers to stop the spread of gangrene. The patient's penis fell off by itself. The man is currently recovering in a rehabilitation facility.
Men who inject cocaine into the penis report that it gives them a sexual high. Drug abuse treatment experts have previously reported external use of cocaine as a sexual stimulant. Cocaine powder is rubbed onto the surface of the genital organs by both men and women in an effort to halt premature ejacuation or improve sexual sensations.
"We report this case to alert clinicians to this new method of cocaine abuse and to describe its rare and previously unreported complications," the doctors concluded.

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It is apparently true that in the US the majority of scorpions are of the non-lethal variety... that of the 80 or so species only the one that you mentioned is lethal.
In the negative column for you, it is found in AZ (as well as the deserts of CA and UT).

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Please learn a bit about the topic if you would like to reply so we can have a valid discussion

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yes venom, not poison again learn before reply. This venom is used medically for several things check it out.

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yes venom, not poison again learn before reply. This venom is used medically for several things check it out.

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I don't think his reply was directed at me, however.....there are quite a few things that can be considered 'poisons' that also have medical uses. Just because something has medical uses, unless you are an MD physician.....you probably shouldn't be prescribing it for yourself.

Yes, venom has medical uses. Again, unless you are using it as prescribed by a physician, you probably shouldn't be dabbling in it.