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SummerVac -> African Masters (5/14/2010 7:53:32 AM)
I was thinking of something here, on this site it is all this african scammers, fakes that want to get money.. but where do we find the real doms from africa? I totally understand the problems all these fakes from Africa are doing here and that makes it harder to actually find someone real from the continent. But i have believes that you can find bdsm in every part of the world, so, is it the culture that is different? Is it the less industrielized society that is a problem(not as developted with pc/internet)... Is it that them understand that no one will take them seriously? Please, don be rude and dont be judgemental, i really wonder about these things....

reynardfox -> RE: African Masters (5/14/2010 8:08:25 AM)
I think you find fakes anywhere and to suggest that most of them come from Africa says more about you than any African. You are talking about billions of people as though they are all the same, which is breathtaking ignorance. You should simply acknowledge that you find good and bad everywhere. If you want an African Master then advertise for one.

SummerVac -> RE: African Masters (5/14/2010 9:20:38 AM)
I used the fact that Africans are know to behind som scams as a referance, not a accucation against a bounch of people, of course i know there are probably more assholes here from UK than it is from Africa, but that was not my point... I would have nothing against a African Master no, but that was not my point here:)

SirLost -> RE: African Masters (5/14/2010 9:29:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: reynardfox I think you find fakes anywhere and to suggest that most of them come from Africa says more about you than any African. You are talking about billions of people as though they are all the same, which is breathtaking ignorance. You should simply acknowledge that you find good and bad everywhere. If you want an African Master then advertise for one. But the fact that "the big amount of African scammers makes it difficult to find a good/real master from Africa" can't be ignored. I haven't noticed any generalization in the original post, I suppose she wouldn't ask this question if she made such an assumption. The social structure and education level of concerned areas directly affect the results of your profile queries. I'm regretted to say that most of the people I've encountered online from 'developing' countries have showed the negativenesses that I won't list now. But of course this doesn't mean you won't find a piece of diamond among the coals, I'm sure there is someone like you wanted (I have found some really interesting profiles after searching for some African people here, which can prove my point).

Aneirin -> RE: African Masters (5/14/2010 5:12:57 PM)
I agree, the amount of African scammers make it very dificult to discerne just exactly what is genuine and what is not. Me, as a rule. I ignore anything from certain countries in Africa, which has made me question whether my stance is right or not, but when there is a stronger than strong possibility that the applyee might be a scam artist, I tend to err on the side of caution. It is very sad, and I do feel for those who are genuine, but others in their country ruin it for them. But scammers can come from any country, but this website specifically warns against communication with certain African countries, our reticence to deal with them,is observed education from this website.

DarkSteven -> RE: African Masters (5/14/2010 9:07:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: reynardfox I think you find fakes anywhere and to suggest that most of them come from Africa says more about you than any African. You are talking about billions of people as though they are all the same, which is breathtaking ignorance. You should simply acknowledge that you find good and bad everywhere. If you want an African Master then advertise for one. Fella, you must not have much experience here. There are tons of fakes and for some odd reason, a majority of them pretend to be in Africa. OP, welcome to collarme. I don't know what to say except that you begin to see the patterns in fake profiles soon. And that the US is a nice place to visit too...

DaddysInkedSlut -> RE: African Masters (5/14/2010 9:14:05 PM)
CollarMe warns you about scams from Africa for a reason, because they have reported instances of those scams. That doesn't mean that everyone from Africa is a scammer anymore than ever Domme is a pro.

WyldHrt -> RE: African Masters (5/14/2010 9:36:17 PM)
quote: I think you find fakes anywhere and to suggest that most of them come from Africa says more about you than any African. I've got 3+ years experience in fighting internet scams that says you are dead wrong about that. The vast majority of internet scams originate in West Africa, with eastern Europe (mostly Romania and Russia) a distant second. Denying that scamming is a multi-million dollar a year business in West Africa, Nigeria and Ghana in particular, tells me that you are very naive. The shame of it is that there are millions of honest people in West Africa who can't get a break because of what the scammers have done to their countries' reputations. Legit Nigerian businessmen are shunned, because the companies they want to do business with have been burned by too many scammers. Legit West African students and those wishing to emigrate to Europe or the US are put under heavy scrutiny due to the fact that scammers have emigrated under student visas and continued their illegal activities in their new country. Google is your friend, dude. Use it. Seriously.

Faldegast -> RE: African Masters (6/1/2010 12:20:00 PM)
That used to be a fact in Europe to. Thats why we formed the trade guilds who grew into the Hansa, a de facto monopoly on all trade. Today business is regulated by government so we dont need them. I think trade organizations is something that the Africans should consider, so that others know that there is a web of trust between its members. Whet it comes to bondage/BDSM most western countries has BDSM groups that should be able to establish a web of trust. For example if you are to see a slave from another state or country, the local BDSM community would be able to verify that the slave is legitimate. The same thing could be done for Masters. Also relocations could be handled by the community. Even when your financing your own relocation, it is nice to know that you could rely on the BDSM community in case something goes wrong. Of course there may not be such community's everywhere. However in countries of interest like Ghana or Nigeria an existing web of trust could help funding some local trustworthy organization. Now this is just brainstorming, but i think that this can be a very good anti-scam solution. Unfortunately i live in a small town without an organized BDSM community. Otherwise i would bring this up there in order to get something started.

Malkinius -> RE: African Masters (6/1/2010 11:22:27 PM)
Greetings SummerVac..... If you want real African Masters look to Ethiopia, Congo and nearby countries. Oh wait, you want BDSM Masters? You don't want people who own non-consensual slaves? BDSM as it is known here is the North America, Europe, Australia and such is a development of fairly modern western cultures and the people connected to them. Some activities involved in BDSM have been in existence every where in the world since before written history but as a defined thing....that is western modern and usually only among fairly affluent cultures. Be well..... Malkinius

GreedyTop -> RE: African Masters (6/1/2010 11:28:13 PM)
<--is not a fake african master, and I have a profile here.

SirPumpy -> RE: African Masters (6/2/2010 12:24:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SummerVac I was thinking of something here, on this site it is all this african scammers, fakes that want to get money.. but where do we find the real doms from africa? I totally understand the problems all these fakes from Africa are doing here and that makes it harder to actually find someone real from the continent. But i have believes that you can find bdsm in every part of the world, so, is it the culture that is different? Is it the less industrielized society that is a problem(not as developted with pc/internet)... Is it that them understand that no one will take them seriously? Please, don be rude and dont be judgemental, i really wonder about these things.... "African" covers an awful lot of ground as the continent is huge but your point is a valid one. Id be looking at South Africa, but there will be more Africaans white Masters than Black South Africans im betting. is it the colour you seek or the country? Welcome to Collarme. Be Well, Sir Pumpy

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