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BMW1969 -> Arizona Intentional Living Environment (5/15/2010 4:25:56 PM)

Is there ayone in Arizona interested in forming an "Intentional lifestyle Houshould/Community" ??




DarkSteven -> RE: Arizona Intentional Living Environment (5/15/2010 6:44:30 PM)

You may want to define what that is.




peppermint -> RE: Arizona Intentional Living Environment (5/15/2010 7:34:43 PM)

He defined it in his profile, Steven.

He's the Master with a Mistress under him. Then he wants lots of slaves, preferably female.  In other words, he wants a poly household with him as head honcho.  Not sure why he felt the need for some fancy words to say that. 




DarkSteven -> RE: Arizona Intentional Living Environment (5/15/2010 8:02:22 PM)

Thanks, peppermint!




BMW1969 -> RE: Arizona Intentional Living Environment (5/15/2010 9:53:04 PM)

Actually there is no Mistress under me, at least none willing to step up.
If I was interested in a poly household I would have posted as such.




CarrieO -> RE: Arizona Intentional Living Environment (5/15/2010 10:22:09 PM)

 The http://www.ic.org/ website, Fellowship for Intentional Community, offers a few definitions of what this type of living is.  Here are a few examples...

quote:


...a group of people who come together deliberately in a residential situation around a specific vision, agenda or shared values. Certainly there are communities that adhere to the latter criteria whose members do not live together; however, when we think of intentional communities, it seems to imply being residential.


quote:


Intentional community is an association displaying two primary characteristics. First, the members of the group maintain some level of common agreements, such as choosing a name for themselves and a system of governance.
Second, the group carries on some collective actions, for example sharing a common residential property and usually other material assets. Essentially, any association may call itself an "intentional community" by common agreement. The lack of such an agreement results in an association being termed a "circumstantial community," which is similar to nations, cities, towns, or neighborhoods where individuals live in proximity by chance, and may or may not actively choose to be a part of the association imposed upon them. Both intentional and circumstantial communities can at times function as the other, depending upon their degree of common agreement and community action


and my favorite from David Spangler, one of the early members of the Findhorn community, who offers his opinion of community beyond the boundaries of the intentional space alone;

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When this was a small gathering of people it was very easy for us to experience community here; everyone worked with everybody else, we knew everyone's first name, we were together through the day and we had sanctuary all together. As the community grew, jobs became more specialized and people worked further afield, and being together became more difficult. Then the quality that makes community had to arise from something more than just physical proximity and daily encounter. ...Community is not something that is created when people come together and live together, rather it is something that is preexistent and we can awaken to it. There is never a time when we are not in community, and our practice is to awaken to that experience of communion.


Is this what you mean, OP?  In reading your journal entry that discusses the topic you've posted here, I'm curious why you say you want to form this type of communial living situation and then say you want it to be with a lesbian or bi mistress and a few subs, mostly female.  To be honest, it does sound slightly more poly than not.

Maybe you could elaborate and clear up any misconceptions.

fwiw...There was a thread started in the beginning of the year similar to this topic.  I'm sure you could find it by using the search feature and typing in 'lifestyle home'.

*edited to fix link




BMW1969 -> RE: Arizona Intentional Living Environment (5/15/2010 11:02:47 PM)

Ideally it would be people who like to practice what the are looking for on Collarme.
It all starts small and builds from there.
It is hard to put out what you are looking for exactly without people who have no interest in even meeting you picking it apart, strictly for their own entertainment.  From what I have read and some follow up usually discourages people from persuing like requests.




DarkSteven -> RE: Arizona Intentional Living Environment (5/15/2010 11:24:28 PM)

I thought we were helping you.  We can't understand it, so those who might be looking for exactly what you offer may not understand it either.

If you cannot express it, who will know what you want?




wandersalone -> RE: Arizona Intentional Living Environment (5/15/2010 11:58:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BMW1969

Actually there is no Mistress under me, at least none willing to step up.
If I was interested in a poly household I would have posted as such.


Your journal says this:

Anyone interested in forming an "Intentional liefstyle oriented Household / Community"

My Idea consists of;

Male Hetero Master (me);
Female Les,Bi, Mistress;
A few many subs majority female.
willing and or able to commit to something long term.

One large Loft or multilevel loft space. 
(to clarify for message board readers)
With room for multiple persons, full or part time.
With office space for day jobs.


kinda sounds poly to me otherwise why wouldn't it be open to males and females, tops and bottoms alike? I am confused

edited to make the journal post stand out more easily




CarrieO -> RE: Arizona Intentional Living Environment (5/16/2010 4:59:45 AM)

Not sure if the OP will even be back to read this but I'll respond anyway.

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ORIGINAL: BMW1969

Ideally it would be people who like to practice what the are looking for on Collarme.
It all starts small and builds from there.

Well, that could mean a whole host of scenarios seeing as CM caters to bdsm, kink, D/s, FemDom, gorean, poly and a few more I'm sure I've forgotten.  If this is more than just a flash in the pan thought or fantasy of yours, you'll need to flesh it out considerably to attract any attention.  That's what I was hoping for instead of  the vague answer you gave.  Really, I understood you meant some aspect of wiitwd, I was wondering how that would fit into a intentional community idea.

It is hard to put out what you are looking for exactly without people who have no interest in even meeting you picking it apart, strictly for their own entertainment.  From what I have read and some follow up usually discourages people from persuing like requests.

Well, it's too bad you took things that way.  I offered the link to ic.org and the idea for a search on lifestyle homes as research/background tools.  If you chose to see that as picking you idea apart, maybe you need to rethink your ability to function within a communial living environment, be it intentional or poly.  What you suggest is not a light undertaking and something that requires a well communicated vision coupled with the clear-headed ability to offer a path to a common goal for others.
 
That's not said to discourage but I can't stop you from seeing it that way if you so choose. 

btw...If you decide to do more research, there are a number of websites that offer information on this type of living, the one I posted is just an example.  You can also google co-housing or commune living and get tons of information.  I haven't seen any that would be considered kink/bdsm/or D/s based but that doesn't mean they don't or can't exisit.  Just all the more reason to have a clear plan to offer others when they question you in regards to what direction you want you fledgling community to be based on and how they (other folks) would fit into the picture.





BMW1969 -> RE: Arizona Intentional Living Environment (5/16/2010 8:01:09 AM)

I am just looking for people interested in working together to enjoy life safely and enthusiastically.
Not looking to label or classify anything or anyone, not trying to start a debate either.
I appreciate any help or leads.  I have done a lot of searching.




CarrieO -> RE: Arizona Intentional Living Environment (5/16/2010 8:22:33 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BMW1969

I am just looking for people interested in working together to enjoy life safely and enthusiastically.


Again...this is vague.  What do you mean by "safely and enthusiastically"?  In what way would the concept of intentional living, bdsm and what you describe in your journal tie to together?   I'm still unclear as to why you backed away from the idea of a poly household and yet you say the community would involve yourself as master, a lesbian/bi mistress and many subs who would be mostly female.  Kinky housemates maybe? 
Do a search for 'victorian household' as I know of atleast 2 people who post here that have been part of or head of such homes and have offered descriptions of how this works for them.


Not looking for a debate either...just clarification.   You may not want to "label or classify"anyone/anything but by using the words 'intentional community' you already have. 




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