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Sanity -> Miss USA Does Politics (5/17/2010 2:19:02 PM)


Politics and lingerie...

Slideshow - all the Miss USA contestants wearing lingerie, beginning with Miss Idaho:

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*ahem* Where was I...

Oh yeah - politics:


Video - Audience erupts when Miss Oklahoma defends: "Huge believer in states' rights'... and Arizona's right to enforce the federal immigration statute.

Could her answer have been the reason she placed runner up?

And now this - our first Muslim Miss USA, Rima Fakih stripping contest photos emerge

This ain't your grandmas beauty pageant...  [:)]







pahunkboy -> RE: Miss USA Does Politics (5/17/2010 2:26:11 PM)

She did well. 




Sanity -> RE: Miss USA Does Politics (5/17/2010 2:33:38 PM)

She did, but its too bad so many of the judges are such partisan hacks, it seems like this is becoming an ugly trend. 




pahunkboy -> RE: Miss USA Does Politics (5/17/2010 2:36:47 PM)

- what I see in that is a lack of attention- the listener heard only a few words- with out hearing the whole reply.

I see this on this board as well.




mnottertail -> RE: Miss USA Does Politics (5/17/2010 2:39:20 PM)

I didn't see the whole pageant. in what way were the judges partisan hacks?




rulemylife -> RE: Miss USA Does Politics (5/17/2010 2:47:58 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Politics and lingerie...

Slideshow - all the Miss USA contestants wearing lingerie, beginning with Miss Idaho:



*ahem* Where was I...

Oh yeah - politics:


Video - Audience erupts when Miss Oklahoma defends: "Huge believer in states' rights'... and Arizona's right to enforce the federal immigration statute.

Could her answer have been the reason she placed runner up?


And now this - our first Muslim Miss USA, Rima Fakih stripping contest photos emerge

This ain't your grandmas beauty pageant...  [:)]



I don't see how since her answer was purposely generic straddling both sides of the issue.

But on a side note I am really impressed that you have women in Idaho.

I always thought the state was populated by guys in camo playing war games.

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pahunkboy -> RE: Miss USA Does Politics (5/17/2010 2:57:10 PM)

-of course there are woman in Idaho.   Next you will claim that no other place grows potatos.




Sanity -> RE: Miss USA Does Politics (5/17/2010 3:36:17 PM)

Please don't feed the trolls, PA.






rulemylife -> RE: Miss USA Does Politics (5/17/2010 3:39:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

-of course there are woman in Idaho.   Next you will claim that no other place grows potatos.


Thank God.

I've been so worried.

But now we know Dan Quayle is alive and well.

1992 - The kid who corrected Quayle, potato



What are you talking about.  You dont even list your state on your profile here.  It must be one you want to hide.



I think most people realize Cleveland is in Ohio.

Just as they realize the plural of potato is potatoes.




X96X -> RE: Miss USA Does Politics (5/17/2010 3:56:09 PM)

That is so true.




Sanity -> RE: Miss USA Does Politics (5/17/2010 6:06:21 PM)


An indirect answer to your question, mnot:

quote:

Forget 'world peace:' Beauty queens face culture war questions

...The winner, Miss Michigan Rima Fakih, a Lebanese immigrant who calls herself both Muslim and Christian and went to Catholic school, was asked if health insurance should cover birth control. Yes, she said, because it's so expensive. According to AP, she replied.
I believe that birth control is just like every other medication even though it's a controlled substance.
No word on whether her prizes include health insurance along with a NY apartment for a year, living expenses and other goodies.The first runner up (the Carrie Prejean spot from 2009 and don't we all miss her!) was Miss Oklahoma Morgan Elizabeth Woolard. She, too, got a loaded question, this time on Arizona's strict new immigration law. Like most Americans surveyed, she's for it -- as long as it doesn't become racial profiling. Woolard said,
I'm a huge believer in states' rights. I think that's what's so wonderful about America. So I think it's perfectly fine for Arizona to create that law."
One thing the questions certainly do is quadruple the coverage of "a third rate beauty pageant desperate for attention," says Joe Carter, blogging at the conservative journal First Things on "Miss Culture War 2010." Says Carter:
Next year the judges should just ask what they really want to know: "Are you now or have you ever been a conservative?"
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DarkSteven -> RE: Miss USA Does Politics (5/17/2010 9:09:30 PM)

I am actually glad that political questions are being asked.  And I appreciate how Woolard parried the question.

I just don't like how a perceived wrong answer is a disqualifier.  Hell, I don't even like litmus tests for judges, and there's no place for them in a pageant.

I also think it's hypocritical that the contestants were required to wear lingerie, but that a fully-clothed striptease is considered pushing it.




SaintAllie -> RE: Miss USA Does Politics (5/17/2010 9:35:28 PM)

offtopic .. or possibly not.. read on

since ... I want to address cosmetic surgery, but that would sabotage pageants.

(too many contestants have had breast surgery... sad issue in general, unless medically required.)

If..and it's a big IF..

We want beauty contestants, ( as a genre). To be politically aware, ( or active).


And I realise screening the pageants on TV are a huge source of revenue.

Why are we suddenly wanting to uphold politically aware, surgically enhanced, women under 30 as societies perfection and/ or examples of a particular countrys' average woman.?

TV ratings?


enquiring minds must find this ridiculous surely. Whilst I applaud the pageant asking questions that may tax their contestants knowledge and thoughtfulness.

I'll pose a question..

How many men, that watch beauty pageants ( come on, OUT yourselves!), actually care about the political questions.. and their responses? Couldn't you just read about the winner in the local newspaper?

Allie








TheHeretic -> RE: Miss USA Does Politics (5/17/2010 9:46:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SaintAllie
Couldn't you just read about the winner in the local newspaper?



Without the pot-stirring questions, would the results even make the local paper?




LanceHughes -> RE: Miss USA Does Politics (5/17/2010 9:49:18 PM)

Allie: As a gay man, I watch for fashion disasters. LOL!

ETA: As a matter of fact, that double side view above is getting pretty close.  Both are way too thin; hair is too long and not arranged properly;  The gowns are well..... over-done is a nice way of putting it.  Who decided that applique-is-the-way for this year?  "Girls" in the background are thinking, "Damn! My stylist was right!  White and applique.... I just had to have jewel tones with hand beading and a side split - I just had to try to be different to stand out.  Why, oh why didn't I listen to everyone who said to stuff my personality?  Why, oh why????"
 
Creativity might very well be dead.... after all, there are so few gays left (to be stylists) since AIDS has taken its toll.
 
Chandelier earrings?  How very,very 20th century.  BLEAH!
 
I'd prefer more of a Westminster Dog Show approach - Best of Breed and then Best of Show...... yeah, like that'll ever happen.  LOL!




Elisabella -> RE: Miss USA Does Politics (5/17/2010 9:52:59 PM)

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I also think it's hypocritical that the contestants were required to wear lingerie, but that a fully-clothed striptease is considered pushing it.


It's a doll contest not a whore contest. It's incredibly moralistic, but I think the contestants are aware of that when joining.





Elisabella -> RE: Miss USA Does Politics (5/17/2010 10:00:10 PM)

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The gowns are well..... over-done is a nice way of putting it.  Who decides that applique-is-the-way for this year?


I like the one on the left, it fits her perfectly.




LanceHughes -> RE: Miss USA Does Politics (5/17/2010 10:07:58 PM)

Fit has little to do with decoration.  "Let's see some personality" is my point.  Dressing all the same is "counter-productive" to bringing out the young women's differences.

Oh, wait, then the judges might actually have to WORK!




rulemylife -> RE: Miss USA Does Politics (5/17/2010 10:08:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LanceHughes

Allie: As a gay man, I watch for fashion disasters. LOL!

ETA: As a matter of fact, that double side view above is getting pretty close.  Both are way too thin; hair is too long and not arranged properly;  The gowns are well..... over-done is a nice way of putting it.  Who decides that applique-is-the-way for this year?  "Girls" in the background are thinking, "Damn! My stylist was right!  White and applique.... I just had to have jewel tones, just had to try to be different to stand out.  Why, oh why didn't I listen to everyone who said to stuff my personality?  Why, oh why????"



Being a forgiving sort of person I think I could learn to tolerate it if they show up on my doorstep in that same pose.





LanceHughes -> RE: Miss USA Does Politics (5/17/2010 10:12:57 PM)

The sashes have always been problematic.  When I used to sell leather harnesses and vests I would recommend certain very simple changes to the shoulder areas.  I have never seen any contestant take advantage of fitting the sash properly.  Bathing suits (in the good old days) had "secrets" of how to achieve a certain flow, especially at the top of the bust as it joined the arm-pit.

Please don't try to teach this
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old grandma how to suck eggs. LOL




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