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laurell3 -> RE: Such a thing as too much attention? (5/20/2010 5:51:33 PM)



Basically, in reflection, I'm wondering if I was smothering her.







Yes and the email to dad was downright stalkerish. Get a grip. I don't of anyone that wouldn't run away after that performance.




porcelaine -> RE: Such a thing as too much attention? (5/20/2010 5:53:47 PM)

blackpearl81

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I sent her dad (he knew me from highschool when me and her would hang out) a "hey is she ok" email. He naturaly told her about it, and she flipped.


Do you really believe she was in danger or was this a tactic to get her to talk?

quote:

So, this (the email to her dad) happened Wednesday morning, but I havent talked to her personally since.


If this happened to me I'd be done. Seriously. I think you crossed a line by contacting her father. There's no justifiable reason for doing so save the fact you wanted to talk. It comes off as selfish and then some.

~porcelaine




blackpearl81 -> RE: Such a thing as too much attention? (5/20/2010 5:54:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MadameMarque

If you require attention, whenever you're doing something that shows attention to your dominant, you can imagine how that is potentially a problem. Or if, in showing interest in your dominant, you end up asking them to report everything to you, it might even be seen as you claiming the right to know everything that's going on with them, at all times. Of course, we don't know - might one of these be the problem?




Not sure. I mean, it was just friendly banter - "hey how you doin, whats goin on" type stuff.

"Oh youre doing x,y z? cool, have fun!"

It was just the then unexplained lack of contact. I mean, if you were talking with someone daily, then it started slowing down, I'd be scratching my head going "huh?". (Which, I did =os)

Also, I should point out - this isn't a dynamic. Pretty much a vanilla friends relationship. Nothing romantic. (At least, not at the time. I was hoping it would eventually go that route however - she knew that, but she had just gotten out of a relationship several months prior)




blackpearl81 -> RE: Such a thing as too much attention? (5/20/2010 5:55:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

blackpearl81

quote:

I sent her dad (he knew me from highschool when me and her would hang out) a "hey is she ok" email. He naturaly told her about it, and she flipped.


Do you really believe she was in danger or was this a tactic to get her to talk?

quote:

So, this (the email to her dad) happened Wednesday morning, but I havent talked to her personally since.


If this happened to me I'd be done. Seriously. I think you crossed a line by contacting her father. There's no justifiable reason for doing so save the fact you wanted to talk. It comes off as selfish and then some.

~porcelaine



I wouldn't say danger. But who knows. For all I knew she could have been in the hospital or something.




PeonForHer -> RE: Such a thing as too much attention? (5/20/2010 6:01:34 PM)

Sod all this for a lark. OK, lesson learned - the contacting her family thing wasn't a good move. So we all make balls-ups. I don't think you need to make an appointment with a psychiatrist just yet. You're a good-looking guy with a dose of style. Things will work out, one way or another.




blackpearl81 -> RE: Such a thing as too much attention? (5/20/2010 6:05:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Sod all this for a lark. OK, lesson learned - the contacting her family thing wasn't a good move. So we all make balls-ups. I don't think you need to make an appointment with a psychiatrist just yet. You're a good-looking guy with a dose of style. Things will work out, one way or another.



Lol thanks.

I figured as much, but there's always a lesson to be learned from a mistake. I just wish it didn't (apparently) cost a friendship.




porcelaine -> RE: Such a thing as too much attention? (5/20/2010 6:06:00 PM)

blackpearl81,

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I wouldn't say danger. But who knows. For all I knew she could have been in the hospital or something.


She probably won't see it that way. Trust me. I'm a girl. We talk about this sort of thing. And the words that follow are never awww. But there are a lot of expletives.

I understand this hinges on frequency of contact but that was never yours to define. You'll come off looking pushy, impatient, and possibly a little nuts after the email. I wouldn't bother her anymore. If she wants to talk she knows how to get in touch. Don't over think or second guess. She wants the silence you're experiencing.

~porcelaine




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Such a thing as too much attention? (5/20/2010 6:07:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

quote:

ORIGINAL: lovingpet

Better yet, just molest me and get the hell out!  [:D] 
Nu-uh. You said it yourself: you're cuddly. I demand a cuddle before I go. :P



ohohoh pick me VC pick me! I'll give you the cuddle, hand feed you Revels....then get the fuck out before being told to.

beat that lp




MadameMarque -> RE: Such a thing as too much attention? (5/20/2010 6:10:11 PM)

When you say, "this isn't a dynamic," you mean no D/s dynamic, right? Those of us responding to your original post are confused by your original question,
"Does anyone here think that the same thing is possible, given the roles of the D/s (respectively)? I mean, depending on how a particular couples relationship is defined, isn't the submissive supposed to show attention for their Dominant?"

You appear to be asking, can a submissive pay too much attention to a dominant? Then you relate that to a history of feedback you've received in non-D/s relationships, of problems with what seems to be "too much attention."

Smothering, crowding, manipulation are still possible, from a submissive/bottom/slave to a dominant/top/owner. But the acceptable ways in which partners pay attention to each other and address each other's needs, in a dominant/submissive relationship, are in many ways typically different than in a vanilla relationship, so I believe it makes some difference which you're discussing.

quote:

ORIGINAL: blackpearl81


quote:

ORIGINAL: MadameMarque

If you require attention, whenever you're doing something that shows attention to your dominant, you can imagine how that is potentially a problem. Or if, in showing interest in your dominant, you end up asking them to report everything to you, it might even be seen as you claiming the right to know everything that's going on with them, at all times. Of course, we don't know - might one of these be the problem?




Not sure. I mean, it was just friendly banter - "hey how you doin, whats goin on" type stuff.

"Oh youre doing x,y z? cool, have fun!"

It was just the then unexplained lack of contact. I mean, if you were talking with someone daily, then it started slowing down, I'd be scratching my head going "huh?". (Which, I did =os)

Also, I should point out - this isn't a dynamic. Pretty much a vanilla friends relationship. Nothing romantic. (At least, not at the time. I was hoping it would eventually go that route however - she knew that, but she had just gotten out of a relationship several months prior)





blackpearl81 -> RE: Such a thing as too much attention? (5/20/2010 6:12:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

blackpearl81,

quote:

I wouldn't say danger. But who knows. For all I knew she could have been in the hospital or something.


She probably won't see it that way. Trust me. I'm a girl. We talk about this sort of thing. And the words that follow are never awww. But there are a lot of expletives.

I understand this hinges on frequency of contact but that was never yours to define. You'll come off looking pushy, impatient, and possibly a little nuts after the email. I wouldn't bother her anymore. If she wants to talk she knows how to get in touch. Don't over think or second guess. She wants the silence you're experiencing.

~porcelaine



Yeah, she definitely didn't see it that way. I haven't spoken to her since Wednesday, and to be honest, I'm not going to contact her anytime soon - she has some of my contact info, and I agree - if she wants to get in touch with me, she knows how.





Jeffff -> RE: Such a thing as too much attention? (5/20/2010 6:13:07 PM)

Melinda was mine 'Til the time
That I found her Holding Jim
Loving Him
Then Sue came along Loved me strong
That's what I thought Me and Sue
But that died too

Don't know that I will
But until I can find me
The girl who'll stay
And won't play games behind me
I'll be what I am
A solitary man
Solitary man

I've had it to here Bein' where
Love's a small word
Part-time thing Paper ring

I know it's been done Havin' one
Girl who'll love me Right or wrong
Weak or strong

Don't know that I will
But until I can find me
The girl who'll stay
And won't play games behind me
I'll be what I am
A solitary man
Solitary man




DommeKeliDallas -> RE: Such a thing as too much attention? (5/20/2010 6:17:20 PM)

Just ASK the other person.




blackpearl81 -> RE: Such a thing as too much attention? (5/20/2010 6:28:37 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MadameMarque

When you say, "this isn't a dynamic," you mean no D/s dynamic, right? Those of us responding to your original post are confused by your original question,
"Does anyone here think that the same thing is possible, given the roles of the D/s (respectively)? I mean, depending on how a particular couples relationship is defined, isn't the submissive supposed to show attention for their Dominant?"

You appear to be asking, can a submissive pay too much attention to a dominant? Then you relate that to a history of feedback you've received in non-D/s relationships, of problems with what seems to be "too much attention."

Smothering, crowding, manipulation are still possible, from a submissive/bottom/slave to a dominant/top/owner. But the acceptable ways in which partners pay attention to each other and address each other's needs, in a dominant/submissive relationship, are in many ways typically different than in a vanilla relationship, so I believe it makes some difference which you're discussing.

quote:

ORIGINAL: blackpearl81


quote:

ORIGINAL: MadameMarque

If you require attention, whenever you're doing something that shows attention to your dominant, you can imagine how that is potentially a problem. Or if, in showing interest in your dominant, you end up asking them to report everything to you, it might even be seen as you claiming the right to know everything that's going on with them, at all times. Of course, we don't know - might one of these be the problem?




Not sure. I mean, it was just friendly banter - "hey how you doin, whats goin on" type stuff.

"Oh youre doing x,y z? cool, have fun!"

It was just the then unexplained lack of contact. I mean, if you were talking with someone daily, then it started slowing down, I'd be scratching my head going "huh?". (Which, I did =os)

Also, I should point out - this isn't a dynamic. Pretty much a vanilla friends relationship. Nothing romantic. (At least, not at the time. I was hoping it would eventually go that route however - she knew that, but she had just gotten out of a relationship several months prior)




That's correct. We touched on it (starting/developing a dynamic) - But, the timing wasnt right, so we were taking it slow... just catching up, all that jazz. She did mention that she wanted to explore that if/when we started dating.




VaguelyCurious -> RE: Such a thing as too much attention? (5/20/2010 11:11:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

ohohoh pick me VC pick me! I'll give you the cuddle, hand feed you Revels....then get the fuck out before being told to.

beat that lp

There's plenty of me to go round, Zephy! I'm polycuddlous-like I told Rochsub. You don't need to beat lp, you can both just receive your hugs at different times...

OP: sorry I didn't reply earlier-time zone issues. Other people have picked you up on contacting the dad and the difference between vanilla and D/s so I'm not going to repeat what they said.

I'm just going to say this: sometimes friendships fade away. Online seems particularly bad for that-you don't get the benefit of being with the person in the flesh (which is how humans are *designed* to interact) and you can't put limits on how the other person contacts you-they can and will text you at all hours of the day, for example.

There's no cyber equivalent of saying 'let's have a coffee at xx o'clock on xx day'-she can't condense her communication with you into a more concentrated time-she just receives texts whenever you feel like texting her, which can be stressful.

Maybe she was suffering that kind of stress. Maybe she found someone closer to home. Maybe she's just not that into you. No matter what the reason, the way to respond to her replies slowing down is *not* to increase the flow of texts-that's just going to be irritating.

What I would have done: sent her a message saying 'Hey, I feel like we aren't talking as much as we used to. Everything ok?', rather than bugging her more and more frequently.




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