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Who will major war be with?


North Korea
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China
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Iran
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Russia
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other
  25% (8)
I do not expect a new major war
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RE: Who will major war be with? - 5/25/2010 11:41:37 AM   
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RE: Who will major war be with? - 5/25/2010 1:53:52 PM   
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What'll happen is that one of these mad countries....I include the US in that......will think they can defeat another nation at a minimum cost.....and it will turn into a protracted war......

Like in Iraq and Afghanistan, you mean?
I don't think America really has the money to start fighting a third occupation on top of those two at the moment.



Of course the US has the money.....providing the decision makers decide they have the money.

They'll weigh it up and all you need is a few risk takers in there and they're off....in fact you don't even need that....they may well decide that it's more of a risk to not fight a war with the competition. The number of empires that willingly scaled back must be approaching zero. And as you can see from these boards....the government would have plenty of takers. I'd go for 20% against 40% for 40% undecided until the propaganda department opens for business.

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RE: Who will major war be with? - 5/25/2010 2:08:37 PM   
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What'll happen is that one of these mad countries....I include the US in that......will think they can defeat another nation at a minimum cost.....and it will turn into a protracted war......

Like in Iraq and Afghanistan, you mean?
I don't think America really has the money to start fighting a third occupation on top of those two at the moment.



Of course the US has the money.....providing the decision makers decide they have the money.

They'll weigh it up and all you need is a few risk takers in there and they're off....in fact you don't even need that....they may well decide that it's more of a risk to not fight a war with the competition. The number of empires that willingly scaled back must be approaching zero. And as you can see from these boards....the government would have plenty of takers. I'd go for 20% against 40% for 40% undecided until the propaganda department opens for business.

I can think of at least three off the top of my head: us, the Roman Empire (both if you're going to treat Byzantium as a separate entity after the partition between the two emperors) and the Ottoman empire. All three pulled back their borders because they were too boracic to keep running in the style to which they'd become accustomed.

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RE: Who will major war be with? - 5/25/2010 3:38:14 PM   
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RE: Who will major war be with? - 5/26/2010 1:45:42 AM   
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HOARD GOLD!

I've already pulled out all of my relatives' fillings: might pay this month's mortgage, but you'd need a lot of gold to keep an empire running. That's why the Romans started withdrawing from their borders in the first place, effendi.

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RE: Who will major war be with? - 1/10/2011 9:03:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gog Magog that is Russia. China and N Korea. Next we have Iran and Iraq then South American Oil reserves NOW THE ANSWER IS ALL THE ABOVE! WWWIII kiss your sweet ass good by. Blindenbergs can answer better than me cause they are the ones manuvering positions on the map. You may think this is a pie in the sky remark but there are more than 50 Nukes missing out of Russia and China. N Korea now has Nukes and we have very little left. Take a guess on which South American country will be involved. We are taking on too much with all the scattered troops. Religion Politics and wealth are what wars are all about. Lives are lost and no one gives a damn. Like Viet Nam if we become pussys with not kicking there ass before we leave and take what is ours the word war is useless. "If we repeat a certain action over and over in the same manner and expect another outcome" That is the diffinition of INSANITY.

If we keep electing the same spend all the money help the banks bail out instead of home buyers and people something is wrong and it doesn't help people but banks. The people feel the pain even worse. Health Care and Social Security are jokes cause we keep financing other countries and rebuild them after they try to destroy us. We put ignorant "Yes Men" dictators in countries without putting a leach on these idiots.

Yeah I know the inside scoop ! I used to do the "Washington Beltway or Potomac two step" I got tired of the snow along with the snowmen that try to snow us each and every election.




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RE: Who will major war be with? - 1/10/2011 9:07:34 PM   
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RE: Who will major war be with? - 1/10/2011 9:15:41 PM   
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RE: Who will major war be with? - 1/10/2011 10:35:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		A major war rules out all but Russia and China, and right now I'd say China -- as soon as their development of advanced military capabilities is sufficient to contemplate taking Taiwan.

edited to add:
Fuck, I didn't notice the date on this thread!

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RE: Who will major war be with? - 1/11/2011 12:24:44 AM   
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Gog Magog that is Russia..........



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RE: Who will major war be with? - 1/11/2011 2:03:17 AM   
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A major war rules out all but Russia and China, and right now I'd say China -- as soon as their development of advanced military capabilities is sufficient to contemplate taking Taiwan.

edited to add:
Fuck, I didn't notice the date on this thread!

K.


Oh, I think they'll wait until they're financially huge enough and then enjoy a nice, long decade of making Taiwan suffer being cut out of juicy trade deals, undercutting Taiwanese industry/commerce, before the island comes begging to be integrated.

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RE: Who will major war be with? - 1/11/2011 3:01:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: walkental

Gog Magog that is Russia. China and N Korea. Next we have Iran and Iraq then South American Oil reserves NOW THE ANSWER IS ALL THE ABOVE! WWWIII kiss your sweet ass good by. Blindenbergs can answer better than me cause they are the ones manuvering positions on the map. You may think this is a pie in the sky remark but there are more than 50 Nukes missing out of Russia and China. N Korea now has Nukes and we have very little left. Take a guess on which South American country will be involved. We are taking on too much with all the scattered troops. Religion Politics and wealth are what wars are all about. Lives are lost and no one gives a damn. Like Viet Nam if we become pussys with not kicking there ass before we leave and take what is ours the word war is useless. "If we repeat a certain action over and over in the same manner and expect another outcome" That is the diffinition of INSANITY.

If we keep electing the same spend all the money help the banks bail out instead of home buyers and people something is wrong and it doesn't help people but banks. The people feel the pain even worse. Health Care and Social Security are jokes cause we keep financing other countries and rebuild them after they try to destroy us. We put ignorant "Yes Men" dictators in countries without putting a leach on these idiots.

Yeah I know the inside scoop ! I used to do the "Washington Beltway or Potomac two step" I got tired of the snow along with the snowmen that try to snow us each and every election.





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RE: Who will major war be with? - 1/11/2011 3:55:26 AM   
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Simple demographics indicate that China will be involved. Exactly how is unclear. But they have the manpower, the money and the technology thanks to Billy Blowjob Clinton. They have way too many hungry people. Perhaps that will be their next export, even as mercenaries if they choose to abstain for the moment. They might just do that. The Chinese Foreign Legion !

However it is reasonable to assume that they will exercise control over the situation, that their subjects will not readily act against their national interest. In that light they might just get their feet wet. With technology maybe they have the ability to take Japan. Remember Japan, when they attacked us we were fucking with them, but they thought it through better than that. The idea was to gain a shitload of territory and sue for peace, keeping as much as posible. They may have been pissed, but they did think it out. Iwogima comes to mind. They really wanted that. How to get it by attacking the US ? So what their plan didn't work. If they would've sat on their hands they would never have been rebuilt with the technology to excel in the world, threatening our economy. But of course that was part of the plan. Sorry about the black rain.

Russia is about ready. They have been on a mild upswing for some time now. I think it was Putin who said "If the US,,,,,,proactive strikes,,,,,we reserve the right to act in an analoguous manner". If you think they were kidding, hope you're right. They are no slouch either. If you have the perception to figure it out, Russia is getting tired of our antics. They are not ready to attack right now of course, but if you think they haven't considered it you are underestimating their government. They are not as stupid as our media makes them out to be.

Russia has also gotten friendly with Iran. Now what do these three countries share ? A hemisphere for one. A hemisphere in which the US interferes at the behest of Israel, and the UK follows along like a puppy dog. Iran wants a glass parking lot in Tel Aviv, Russia wants to be the new boss and China wants to be the new banker.

Nobody knows when, but if it were to happen very soon before too many things shift and change it's likely to be US, UK and Israel against Russia, China and Iran. Observe the map carefully, and then call a bookie. Iran and China have people, people that they are not wasting on 130 military bases across the world. they also have some money. Iran has enough people to help, and a fairly strategic location. Russia has much more true wealth than the US, and that includes the fuel for damnear everything - oil. It doesn't matter if YUKOS is now the equivalent of 1,000 baby bells like ATT, these fuckers have oil. By supplting the allies they choose, they will wield considerable influence once they decide to use it. Without oil, in war you might as well throw rocks. Hmmmm, I heard of that somewhere. That means Israel will have an [almost] internal foe.

Once this shit starts happening, how many other countries might be sick of our shit ? Arab nations with axis installed governments, their citizens might figure it's time to throw the bums out while we're busy and ally themselves with Russia. I think Russia is the key, and I think they know it, and I think they are doing the smart thing by keeping pretty much quiet right now. Let the dissent grow. Let more and more of the world get sick of meddling by the US and Israel, let the British empire crumble a bit longer. Meantime they are building and getting stronger.

And let me tell you something I know for a fact - Russia is every bit as strong as we are in technology, at least. Whether their people are subjugated or not, there are many patriots there with a hell of alot of skill. They will be a key player, of that there is no doubt. And if you think they are our ally, you are sadly mistaken.

And I'll sit back and watch.

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RE: Who will major war be with? - 1/11/2011 8:09:29 AM   
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....that's a pity, i was going to suggest a major war between Quebec and Wales, over who is more of a pain in the ass to the country they unfortumately find themselves in...........

(i'm Welsh btw, so i'm allowed)

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RE: Who will major war be with? - 1/11/2011 8:28:27 AM   
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RE: Who will major war be with? - 1/11/2011 11:15:32 AM   
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"Economics determine politics and politics determine war."

"Nobody starts a war they are convinced they cannot win."

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RE: Who will major war be with? - 1/11/2011 5:04:34 PM   
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....that's a pity, i was going to suggest a major war between Quebec and Wales, over who is more of a pain in the ass to the country they unfortumately find themselves in...........

(i'm Welsh btw, so i'm allowed)

LMAO ok thats just plain funny:)



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