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tigreetsa -> RE: Ethical response to a mentally disturbed individual on CM? (5/23/2010 8:22:58 PM)
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
If that's the case, some folks around here have shorter memories that I do....... and that's saying something.
No, some of us also have good enough memories to remember that some people who met and got to know each other through the boards are no longer couples. I know we may disagree here, but without extensive face to face contact with another person and intimate knowledge of them and their lives there's no way you will get to know them.
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Not so long ago, a person (and I'm sorry that I can't remember who for the quote) said something very valuable on the boards here. A person's history on this site doesn't start over every time they type up a new original thread. I happen to think that as a person reveals themselves here, what they have posted or commented on builds that history. If a person comes here and, repeatedly, admits to their own history of mental illness and in-patient as well as out-patient treatment, short of making that person verify this somehow by providing documentation, does it get discounted? Do we automatically assume that it's all made up because we can't prove it? Funny, because if that's the case, it's the only subject where that applies here.
Okay, see, you're now writing about mental illness. My issue was with the term 'mental disturbance' and trying to stigmatize someone through attaching that label to them. These to me are two different issues.
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
I've watched people on these boards tell some very inspiring stories related to their mental health issues. (Physical ones, too, but I'm trying to stay on topic.) People who have worked hard to overcome what was facing them. In fact, they made it more 'real' to Me because they had obviously made such fantastic progress considering where they started from.
Okay, but what has this got to do with referring to someone as 'mentally disturbed'? I don't see the connection.
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Yet, as you and I both know, sometimes, the system fails. Not everyone who has been through the mental health system makes that kind of progress. Some people absolutely are released when they still need care. Sometimes, it has to do with budget cuts. Others, it is because the patient fools the caregivers. Sometimes, it's because people just don't give a shit.
But what has the healthcare system relating to mental health and mental illness got to do with labelling someone as 'mentally disturbed'? It's right there in the topic of the thread.
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
The determination of a person being a threat to themselves or someone else, while the legal standard, isn't always really the best one, is it? Somebody earlier on this thread said that a person maintaining their own residence and computer connection is someone that nobody should be concerned about their mental state. I don't agree with that either. How many people did that guy in Ohio kill before he was found out making his connections for his prey through Alt?
I still don't see the connection. What has this got to do with labelling someone as 'mentally disturbed'?
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
With the internet comes the stage of BDSM that means there are no more rules about who gets associated with and who doesn't. That includes all of the nonsense that goes with it.
This last part is not directed towards you personally, but from another comment.
I'm not taking it as such. Not sure what this has to do with the thread but I actually agree with you here. The Internet has turned some sections of the community into some sort of a lottery - first prize is a village idiot.
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
Can we please, for the love of mike, stop going to the fallback of the cool kids? It's the same as the supposed cliques, or the elders, or it's some kind of popularity contest, or any other thing that folks want to use as a shield because there might just be some of us who happen to share some of the same ideas on things. No, I don't happen to think folks that are seriously, mentally unbalanced should be involved in BDSM until they are healthy enough to know the difference between illusion and reality. If you disagree with Me, I'm ok with that. In the real world - you go scene with them.
But I wasn't writing about cool kids, cliques or popularity contests but people who are evidently on ego trips - the very people who like the ones you are writing about have difficulties separating between illusion and reality.
I'm not trying to argue with you here as I feel you do make some valid points and I value your posts anyway (and learn from them) but my point remains the same - this isn't about real mental illness but about hints and allegations about someone's sanity and talking about someone behind their back - something you do unfortunately find in the BDSM community (I am non-scene) irrespective of whether it's online or offline
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