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rulemylife -> RE: Obama Sending 1,200 Troops To U.S.-Mexico Border (5/25/2010 7:34:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 Rule, and it's not just conservatives beating the drum, Independants and many Democrats are too! This is one of the things our govt. is charged with doing and they've been failing at it for the last thirty years! You're one of the people I was talking about in my earlier post Popeye. You have been saying this should be done but now that it is you are still finding reasons to complain.

TreasureKY -> RE: Obama Sending 1,200 Troops To U.S.-Mexico Border (5/25/2010 7:49:37 PM)
FR: I was a little shocked at how bad things have gotten along the border: Channel 2 Investigates U.S. Border Security Part 1 Channel 2 Investigates U.S. Border Security Part 2 US Border Patrol Weekly Blotter for last week In October 2009 it was reported by the DHS that there are over 16,000 border patrol officers along the Southwest border. I wonder now if 1200 troops will be much help in the overall scheme of things.

urineme -> RE: Obama Sending 1,200 Troops To U.S.-Mexico Border (5/26/2010 10:38:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: urineme 'Bout damn time! Give them shoot-on-sight orders, gather the bodies, and drop them from helo's on the Mexican side of the border while they're at it! Is this something that you would be in favor of for all illegal aliens? Not universally, thompsonx, but in the states along the border, where it is, for all practical purposes, an invasion, and even an ARMED invasion, when the drug-caravans come across with guards carrying AK's, I wouldn't mind seeing a bounty on them, and average citizens allowed to register and participate. As shocking, intolerant, politically-incorrect, (Turns and spits after saying that phrase) and downright barbaric as that may sound, I would have no qualms about that. and OBTW, kittinSol, go visit the southern parts of AZ, talk to the locals down there, and see what the impact of what is happening is before you get all spouty and pouty . The world isn't all sweetness and light, sunshine. William

popeye1250 -> RE: Obama Sending 1,200 Troops To U.S.-Mexico Border (5/26/2010 11:14:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 Rule, and it's not just conservatives beating the drum, Independants and many Democrats are too! This is one of the things our govt. is charged with doing and they've been failing at it for the last thirty years! You're one of the people I was talking about in my earlier post Popeye. You have been saying this should be done but now that it is you are still finding reasons to complain. Rule, 1,200 Troops isn't even a bandade.

thompsonx -> RE: Obama Sending 1,200 Troops To U.S.-Mexico Border (5/26/2010 2:09:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: urineme quote: ORIGINAL: urineme 'Bout damn time! Give them shoot-on-sight orders, gather the bodies, and drop them from helo's on the Mexican side of the border while they're at it! Is this something that you would be in favor of for all illegal aliens? Not universally, but in the states along the border, where it is, for all practical purposes, an invasion, and even an ARMED invasion, when the drug-caravans come across with guards carrying AK's, I wouldn't mind seeing a bounty on them, and average citizens allowed to register and participate. As shocking, intolerant, politically-incorrect, (Turns and spits after saying that phrase) and downright barbaric as that may sound, I would have no qualms about that. William I take it that you would not be in favor of this sort of behavior towards u.s. citizens who are illegal aliens in other countries. So it seems that you are all in favor of murdering mexican illegal aliens but no others. Your candor is appreciated .

urineme -> RE: Obama Sending 1,200 Troops To U.S.-Mexico Border (5/26/2010 2:32:52 PM)
"I take it that you would not be in favor of this sort of behavior towards u.s. citizens who are illegal aliens in other countries. So it seems that you are all in favor of murdering mexican illegal aliens but no others. Your candor is appreciated ." Thompsonx, if I may ask, to which country/countries are you reffering when you speak of U.S. citizens who are illegal aliens? If this is a hypothetical pose on your part for the sake of argument, it falls short, because as far as I am aware, there ARE no countries to which U.S. citizens are going as "illegal aliens". I also need to ask you WHEN is it considered "murder" to repel a criminal horde invading your country to engage in either narcotics sales or in illegally obtaining monies that are SUPPOSED to be for the benefit of U.S TAXPAYERS?. If you have been monitoring this subject for any length of time, then you are aware that capturing and deporting has no real effect, they just try again a few days later, and you are also aware of the increasing use of firearms by illegals against U.S. citizens, both Border Patrol, and civilian citizens in the areas near the border. If you think I have a hate-on against Mexicans, you are dead wrong. If it were Canadians doing this, crossing the border covertly in droves for the purposes of narco-crime or defraudment, I would advocate the same response. That not being the case, you can take your lame attempt at laying racist hatred on my doorstep and cram it back where the sun doesn't shine, IF, that is, you can get it past your shoulders and twixt your anal sphincter and your neck, William

thompsonx -> RE: Obama Sending 1,200 Troops To U.S.-Mexico Border (5/26/2010 2:56:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: urineme "I take it that you would not be in favor of this sort of behavior towards u.s. citizens who are illegal aliens in other countries. So it seems that you are all in favor of murdering mexican illegal aliens but no others. Your candor is appreciated ." Thompsonx, if I may ask, to which country/countries are you reffering when you speak of U.S. citizens who are illegal aliens? There are sizeable populations of illegal american aliens through out europe. There are also sizeable populations of illegal american aliens in canada and mexico. Of course in your obvious hatred of mexicans you would never consider looking on google to see if there might be any credence to my statements. If this is a hypothetical pose on your part for the sake of argument, it falls short, because as far as I am aware, there ARE no countries to which U.S. citizens are going as "illegal aliens". This is only because of your self imposed ignorance. I also need to ask you WHEN is it considered "murder" to repel a criminal horde invading your country Perhaps you might avail yourself of a dictionary. I am sure there is a definition for the word murder there. to engage in either narcotics sales or in illegally obtaining monies that are SUPPOSED to be for the benefit of U.S TAXPAYERS?. Of course in your ignorance of the law it slipped your notice that the crime that the illegal alien commits is a misdomeanor. You, however, in your ignorance failed to notice also that the employment of an illegal alien is a felony punishable for the first offense by five years in the federal slam and/or a $5000 fine for each illegal imployed. If the number of illegals exceeds a relatively small number then the employer may be charged under the RICO statutes and all of their property(both personal and corporate) may be confiscated. Do you think it possible if the cops enforced the existing laws against the employers(which would be so much easier than chasing down individual illegal aliens) that there would be no employment for any illegal? Your obvious bigotry, of course, prevents you from seeing this simple solution. If you have been monitoring this subject for any length of time, then you are aware that capturing and deporting has no real effect, they just try again a few days later, My point exactly. Treat the cause not the symptom. and you are also aware of the increasing use of firearms by illegals against U.S. citizens, both Border Patrol, and civilian citizens in the areas near the border. blah blah blah If you think I have a hate-on against Mexicans, you are dead wrong. If it were Canadians doing this, crossing the border covertly in droves for the purposes of narco-crime or defraudment, If you had a clue as to what you are talking about you would not post such drivel. Estimates of ten million or more illegal aliens in the u.s. and you would have us believe that all ten or twelve million are drug traffikers. I would advocate the same response. Of course you would but your last post clearly stated you would not. If you are not proud of your bigotry perhaps an attitude change would be in order. If not then proclame your bigotry with pride. That not being the case, you can take your lame attempt at laying racist hatred on my doorstep and cram it back where the sun doesn't shine, IF, that is, you can get it past your shoulders and twixt your anal sphincter and your neck, It would appear that your ignorance of the law is equal to your ignorance of human anatomy. William

kittinSol -> RE: Obama Sending 1,200 Troops To U.S.-Mexico Border (5/26/2010 3:13:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: urineme go visit the southern parts of AZ, talk to the locals down there, and see what the impact of what is happening is before you get all spouty and pouty . The world isn't all sweetness and light, sunshine. No need for that - I'm quite au fait with what's been happening. I'm also au fait with the fact that when times are hard, the first people that get the finger pointed at them are immigrants and "others" of all ilk. Alas, an unfortunate aspect of humanity is that it never seems to learn from history. You're pissed off because your country's seemingly going down the bog, so who makes a better scapegoat than immigrants, aye? Your enthusiastic call for blood to be spilt is all I need to know about what you're made of, mate [8\|] .

Musicmystery -> RE: Obama Sending 1,200 Troops To U.S.-Mexico Border (5/26/2010 3:26:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 Rule, and it's not just conservatives beating the drum, Independants and many Democrats are too! This is one of the things our govt. is charged with doing and they've been failing at it for the last thirty years! You're one of the people I was talking about in my earlier post Popeye. You have been saying this should be done but now that it is you are still finding reasons to complain. Rule, 1,200 Troops isn't even a bandade. Which is why it's an expensive solution. But I gotta hand it to you popeye--you called this one (if in far greater numbers).

urineme -> RE: Obama Sending 1,200 Troops To U.S.-Mexico Border (5/26/2010 3:45:01 PM)
"There are sizeable populations of illegal american aliens through out europe. There are also sizeable populations of illegal american aliens in canada and mexico" Then let the countries they are in illegally do their will upon them. If that will were to treat it as a capitol crime, then so be it, they are there illegally and knowingly, and therefore, so far as I am concerned, have placed themselves at the mercy of the country they are in illegally. "the employment of an illegal alien is a felony punishable for the first offense by five years in the federal slam and/or a $5000 fine for each illegal imployed. " By all means slam the employers into the hole and fine the F* out of them! I lived in AZ once upon a time, and have seen this all first-hand. Punish all involved to the maximum extent allowed. "Treat the cause not the symptom." The cause you ever-so-glibly suggest we fix, in regards illegal immigrants across our southern border, is the Mexican economy. We have our OWN economy to repair, we aren't going to fix Mexico's economy, not without a wholesale take-over OF Mexico. Pouring money down that rat-hole isn't going to fix a damn thing. You demonstrate the naieve belief that we, the U.S., are responsible for the current state of their economy, and for fixing it. "and you are also aware of the increasing use of firearms by illegals against U.S. citizens, both Border Patrol, and civilian citizens in the areas near the border. blah blah blah " I see, that with which you cannot deal with any other way, you respond-to with nonsensical syllibles, rather like a girl sticking her fingers in her ears and making noises while wobbling her head to indicate she doesn't want to hear it. "I would advocate the same response. Of course you would but your last post clearly stated you would not. If you are not proud of your bigotry perhaps an attitude change would be in order. If not then proclame your bigotry with pride." Nowhere in my previous posts did I say anything of the sort, you demonstrate your lack of reading comprehension, and your willingness to lie for the sake of argument.. As I now live in relatively close proximity to the Canadian border, I can say with absolute certainty that the situation at the northern border in no way resembles that at the southern border. I have the advantage of first-hand comparison, boy. "It would appear that your ignorance of the law is equal to your ignorance of human anatomy." No, it demonstrates a complete understanding of your** current position, which is to say with your head deeply inserted into someplace smelly. William

thompsonx -> RE: Obama Sending 1,200 Troops To U.S.-Mexico Border (5/26/2010 6:44:46 PM)
quote: Then let the countries they are in illegally do their will upon them. If that will were to treat it as a capitol crime, then so be it, they are there illegally and knowingly, and therefore, so far as I am concerned, have placed themselves at the mercy of the country they are in illegally. So you are OK with the arabs cutting the heads off of amerikans? What legal reason are amerikans in afghanistan and iraq. Would you have been OK with the russians cutting garry powers head off for being an illegal alien in russia?

thompsonx -> RE: Obama Sending 1,200 Troops To U.S.-Mexico Border (5/26/2010 6:50:16 PM)
quote: "the employment of an illegal alien is a felony punishable for the first offense by five years in the federal slam and/or a $5000 fine for each illegal imployed. " By all means slam the employers into the hole and fine the F*** out of them! I lived in AZ once upon a time, and have seen this all first-hand. Punish all involved to the maximum extent allowed. As has been pointed out to you it is legal to put the employers in prison and confiscate all of their property. Any fool should know that shooting illegal aliens would be nothing more than murder which is what you advocated. You allege that you were a resident of arizona yet how many times did you do your civic duty and perform a citizens arrest on one of the felonious employers that you could not have failed to notice if you really were a resident of arizona.

thompsonx -> RE: Obama Sending 1,200 Troops To U.S.-Mexico Border (5/26/2010 6:53:28 PM)
quote: "Treat the cause not the symptom." The cause you ever-so-glibly suggest we fix, in regards illegal immigrants across our southern border, is the Mexican economy. We have our OWN economy to repair, we aren't going to fix Mexico's economy, not without a wholesale take-over OF Mexico. Pouring money down that rat-hole isn't going to fix a damn thing. You demonstrate the naieve belief that we, the U.S., are responsible for the current state of their economy, and for fixing it. Please do try to pay attention. If the current laws concerning those who employ illegal aliens were inforced who would hire an illegal? It really is that simple. Your ranting about the economy of mexico is hardly germane.

thompsonx -> RE: Obama Sending 1,200 Troops To U.S.-Mexico Border (5/26/2010 7:03:32 PM)
quote: Of course you would but your last post clearly stated you would not. If you are not proud of your bigotry perhaps an attitude change would be in order. If not then proclame your bigotry with pride." Nowhere in my previous posts did I say anything of the sort, you demonstrate your lack of reading comprehension, and your willingness to lie for the sake of argument.. When you would rather murder brown people instead of arresting white people that makes a pretty bold statement as to your bigotry. As I now live in relatively close proximity to the Canadian border, I can say with absolute certainty that the situation at the northern border in no way resembles that at the southern border. I have the advantage of first-hand comparison, boy. So it is your position that the traffic in drugs does not exist across the canada/u.s. boarder? I guess that is one that faux news messed up on.

thishereboi -> RE: Obama Sending 1,200 Troops To U.S.-Mexico Border (5/26/2010 7:16:07 PM)
quote: The world isn't all sweetness and light, sunshine. Well I am willing to bet that's true for anyone one you come in contact with. How about dialing back the hate a bit[8\|] then maybe someone will actually want to listen to all that bs you spout. Then again maybe not.

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