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RE: PLAYERS - 4/9/2006 12:22:45 PM   
Tikkiee


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Status: offline 		I will respond with the same answer that I gave on another thread.
It's very simple. I am under no obligation to answer anyone, no matter how courteous or polite they may be.

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RE: PLAYERS - 4/9/2006 12:40:10 PM   
feastie


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Status: offline 		I'm not quite sure how the term "player" relates to someone that chooses not to respond to certain emails received.  I often don't respond.  The message itself may have lacked substance enough to interest me, the profile may not have interested me.  The message may have been presumptive or downright rude.  It is my prerogative, however, to answer what I wish or not.  It may we be that any reponse I would have sent would have been downright rude ;)  Best then, that I keep my mouth shut, so to speak.

Truth is, players are those that will toy (read play) with another's emotions while hiding their true intentions.  It has nothing whatsoever to do with the response or lack thereof to an email.  They come in male and female, dominant and submissive and often do not register with the National Players Registry.

Let's drag em out behind the barn and shoot em ;)

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RE: PLAYERS - 4/9/2006 6:21:09 PM   
IronBear


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Status: offline 		1. We are all pawns in the Game of Life...... We are all PLAYERS

2. Some of us learn to make the "Game" our game as much as we can and deal with as much as possible under our terms... WE ARE PLAYERS

3. Do you seriously believe that the Lifestyles ~ D/s, M/s, Gorean or Kink is no different????

4. People PLAY people just as a fisherman PLAYS fish. Busineses PLAY the customers to get sales... Governments PLAY voters and other Governments to get what they want....


"It's all about how you play the Game!"

Happy are those who are players and admit to this for they are Honest Players.



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RE: PLAYERS - 4/9/2006 6:53:27 PM   
MHOO314


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Status: offline 		ATTENTION ALL PLAYERS: Shame on you, you users, fakers, wannabes--Now here this, on Tuesday, April 11, we will hold a mass whipping--in My woods, as you arrive, you will draw a number that  matches to a corresponding tree, Take a number and go to your tree---please wear a front button, easy to remove shirt, when you get to the tree remove your shirt, place your arms around the tree. The whipping assistants will chain you to the tree, shortly after the punishment will begin--please stay around and join us afterward for coffee and donuts.
 
<smiles> have a nice day.

 Uh oh, seems the spaces have all been taken by the lawyers, the politicians, the corporate executives and the IRS----pooh, we'll have to do a reschedule, watch this space for details.

< Message edited by MHOO314 -- 4/9/2006 6:56:32 PM >

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RE: PLAYERS - 4/9/2006 7:05:33 PM   
Imsosly4u


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Status: offline 		yeah i fully agree with feastie.....
 
Truth is, players are those that will toy (read play) with another's emotions while hiding their true intentions.  It has nothing whatsoever to do with the response or lack thereof to an email.  They come in male and female, dominant and submissive and often do not register with the National Players Registry.

I say we just expose them for what they are, in hopes of saving aonther from becoming the new toy of choice!!
 
should be a page just to list em'  LOL 

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RE: PLAYERS - 4/9/2006 10:15:52 PM   
dorsaisgirl1


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Status: offline 		the ones that don't respond are not the one's that are players the ones that do respond say yes we have a conecsion or yes we can meet or yes i will be yours and then you don't hear back from them . thoughs are the players they come in both th male and female verity they can be sub/slave or dom/me they can be the ones who e mail lil subbies expecting them to drop to there knees or come right over just becouse they claim to be dom's /mes .they could be the ones who contact you and just wan't you to send pics or just want you to call them so they can jack off on the phone male or female. are they here sure during the course of your search will you bump into them yes . will you get hurt upset or out n out pissed that depends on your nature . what i have found is this getting upset about it don't do any good getting your hopes up before they arrive can be upsetting so i go with a if they show they show if not screw them attitude.

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RE: PLAYERS - 4/9/2006 11:07:03 PM   
LATEXBABY64


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Status: offline 		players are hard to spot sometimes  you have to look at who they are as a person  its like a game of chess
but they can be found out  take time to do it right
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RE: PLAYERS - 4/9/2006 11:26:24 PM   
Arpig


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Status: offline 		It seems to me that people are defined as a "Player" whenever they don't fit whatever the other person wants or sees as "Real". Iron bear is right (as he usually is), we are all players in one sense or another.

Anybody feel like playing?

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RE: PLAYERS - 4/10/2006 5:58:15 PM   
UtopianRanger


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It seems to me that people are defined as a "Player" whenever they don't fit whatever the other person wants or sees as "Real". Iron bear is right (as he usually is), we are all players in one sense or another.


Couldn't have said it better. ''Player'' is a very subjective term.


 - R



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RE: PLAYERS - 4/10/2006 6:06:48 PM   
KnightofMists


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quote:

ORIGINAL: dancerdj43

My question is very simple....Why is it that males on here often are looked upon as PLAYERS and the Females get Played? I find many females are extreme players and won't even respond to messeges even with a polite "no thank you"


Well cause I like to play with women!  and thus they get Played.... and I am very happy when I find an extreme female player because they don't respond with a "NO Thank you" but a Please play me !!!!

WHOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO got a like that



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RE: PLAYERS - 4/10/2006 10:00:11 PM   
slavetobetrained


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quote:

ORIGINAL: feastie


Truth is, players are those that will toy (read play) with another's emotions while hiding their true intentions.  It has nothing whatsoever to do with the response or lack thereof to an email.  They come in male and female, dominant and submissive and often do not register with the National Players Registry.

i have to agree with this...this has happened to me. i was nothing but a toy to this "Master" who had absolutly no clue as to what this life or lifestyle is about. i had the unfortunate luck to get deeply involved with this man. going as far as to flying out to Alaska to meet him. the cost for me was high. i was mentally and emotionally abused. this man took advantage of the fact that i am deeply in love with him. he treated me like a doormat, while the other "slaves" that he had he treated with more respect and diginty. a little too late i caught onto his games and lies, and when i confronted him with all the evidence of his games and lies, he had nothing to say for himself, other than to call me names as if he was still in high school. though it ended badly, and i am broken hearted, in the end, he will sow what he reaps.
 
i say what i mean, and mean what i say. i am open and forthright. if you want to know something, ask, and i will tell you. i have no need to lie or play silly little games with people. lies eventually will catch up with you and any games that you play, those too will come back to haunt you. why bother???
 
this experience has left me emotionally and mentally shattered, and has left me shaken, but there is one thing that i have learned - be afraid, be very afraid of what you find online. i am lucky to have escaped with just a broken heart. it could have been MUCH MUCH worse. listening to one's instincts is something one shouldn't ignore. not like i did. thank god i woke up before it was too late. 
 
 

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RE: PLAYERS - 4/10/2006 10:54:59 PM   
LATEXBABY64


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Status: offline 		playing is also a form of deception a lie so i would have to say that players lie which is a cardinal sin in bdsm so my whole take this player thingy is this learn how to find them and kick the daylights out of them rofl ok ok but any how take the time to get to know someone as a person not as in bdsm learn their true colors it always comes out
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RE: PLAYERS - 4/11/2006 12:37:44 AM   
IronBear


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig

It seems to me that people are defined as a "Player" whenever they don't fit whatever the other person wants or sees as "Real". Iron bear is right (as he usually is), we are all players in one sense or another.

Anybody feel like playing?


Arpig, have you noticed how people don’t seem to be able to accept that we are all players and use the head ion the hole thing and only take one small part of the whole to apply it to a small part of the issue? It is like some one being asked to tidy a room and the refuse to see the whole mess but focus all their energies on one tiny section of the room to tidy whilst the rest if left a mess…. Of course people usually tend to alter definitions or make their own definitions so it suits them about things. I guess it’s like the religious fundies take a tiny part of the scriptures and claim it is the truth and the whole truth and anyone who disagrees is automatically wrong and on their way to hell…. Makes for good debates but rarely resolves issues though…


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RE: PLAYERS - 4/11/2006 1:12:47 AM   
CERCKL


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Believe me when I say that it is not just the Doms who get accused of playing.CM gets this kind of post wether from Dom or sub at least twice a week.Go to your related threads in all forums to the left of your post and you shall see the validity of my comments...NEXT!..........Tempting


Now, now...the last time I responded to this type of post and started my own thread regarding it I got in trouble...

...but I do wonder, how many emails do you need? One, whom is proper for what you want, a shitload to choose from (hmmmm...a submissive smorgosboard)...or if you want many to play with?
I have received a grand total of one unsolicited email being here...and that from a Domme, who's turned into an intriguing conversationalist...as for the rest, I made a couple acqaintances, one locally who is going to introduce us to some local 'scene' stuff...oh, and lotus and she was one of the very first who responded to an email I sent commenting on her choice of the term 'Namaste' in her profile...there are a couple threads which actually answer what people are looking for to respond to...reading profiles, commenting on common interests, typing more than a few words etc...go out, converse and let go of finding anyone.

Namaste,
C

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RE: PLAYERS - 4/12/2006 9:53:19 AM   
HalloweenWhite


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quote:

ORIGINAL: dancerdj43

My question is very simple....Why is it that males on here often are looked upon as PLAYERS and the Females get Played? I find many females are extreme players and won't even respond to messeges even with a polite "no thank you"



No one likes to admit theyre are wrong or that may be (god forbid) just a fallable as everyone else, so they  -attack everyone else-.


HalloweenWhite.

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RE: PLAYERS - 4/12/2006 10:10:35 AM   
MsSophie


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Status: offline 		Not wanting to sound strange here, but what is wrong with wanting to play - nothing else?

Personally I am not interested in investing time and emotions into new relationships right now - I am a player. Everytime I play without charging for my time I am also an amateur - nothing wrong with that either.

Sophie
The amateur Player.

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RE: PLAYERS - 4/12/2006 10:30:07 AM   
HalloweenWhite


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsSophie

Not wanting to sound strange here, but what is wrong with wanting to play - nothing else?

Personally I am not interested in investing time and emotions into new relationships right now - I am a player. Everytime I play without charging for my time I am also an amateur - nothing wrong with that either.

Sophie
The amateur Player.


Theres nothing wrong at all, in fact its normal. I think though that the OP used the term "player" as a way to refer to someone who is insincere, and not quite the way you used it, i.e as someone who "plays".

Sorry if I confused you.


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RE: PLAYERS - 4/12/2006 10:43:03 AM   
MsSophie


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quote:

ORIGINAL: HalloweenWhite
Theres nothing wrong at all, in fact its normal. I think though that the OP used the term "player" as a way to refer to someone who is insincere, and not quite the way you used it, i.e as someone who "plays".

It's OK - I've had my rant for the day and am in a reasonably good mood (sorry humiliation freaks, nothing from me today) so I wasn't offended.

I think we're running into a problem which is currently discussed in another thread - that of term hi-jacking. There are so many words, which already have a meaning, being brought into "bdsm terminology" with a slightly different one.

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RE: PLAYERS - 4/12/2006 11:10:19 AM   
Proprietrix


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quote:

My question is very simple....

lol, no it's not.

quote:

  Why is it that males on here often are looked upon as PLAYERS and the Females get Played?


perhaps because you are seeing the situation through your own gender and your own stance?
I've seen both male and female players. I've seen both males and females get played.

quote:

I find many females are extreme players

I agree.

quote:

and won't even respond to messeges even with a polite "no thank you"

And this is where I actually have a comment.
1. Not responding to a message is not the defining (if even a) quality of a "player".
2. NO ONE, absolutely no one, is obligated, in any way, shape, or form, to respond to anyone else on the internet. We are under no obligation to even boot up the computer on our desks. I am not obligated to answer my door when the doorbell rings. I am not obligated to answer my telephone when it rings. I am not obligated to answer my emails. And I am certainly not obligated to respond to a message from a total stranger on a personal's site.
3. Most the time, non-response is not so much a "rudeness", as simply a disinterest in moving forward. I have found these truths that contribute to my non-response: (Common ones in bold)
I said "no thank you" and received another pleaing message of "oh why not?" or "just this once" or some other try to "talk me into it" message that frankly was nothing more than an annoyance.
The person writing me had obviously not taken the time to read my profile.
The person writing me had such horrendous grammar and spelling, and articulated themselves like a retarded toddler, that I felt they probably couldn't comprehend my rejection anyway.
The person writing me (or their message) was so creepy I was scared to respond, as they might take any hint of attention from me as an invitation to creep me out some more.
The person writing me had an interest list diabolically opposed to my own.
The person writing me was simply writing to try to talk me into their kinks.
The person wrote me 3 months ago and I hadn't logged on since that time.
It was a "form" letter that was obviously a cut and paste they were sending to many women. (i.e. you're picture is so beautiful" when I don't even have a pic posted. Or "I see that you also enjoy strap-ons" when my interests clearly reflect that I hate such.)
The damn message didn't even make sense to the extent I was left bewildered about humanity in general. (i.e. "we cum new to u for serve b 4 with us." WTF?

So I have an extra 20 minutes in my day, I log on to CM, I find all of the messages above (which takes me about 10 minutes to read them all). And I have one real message, of someone who has taken the time to read my profile, shares some similar interests, and articulated themselves well.
I'm not going to waste the rest of my remaining 10 minutes replying back with "no thank you"s. I'm going to spend that 10 minutes on the one person who took the time to learn about me and write me a well thought out message.

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RE: PLAYERS - 4/13/2006 6:20:14 AM   
TacomaCpl


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ORIGINAL: truesub4u

quote:

ORIGINAL: dancerdj43

My question is very simple....Why is it that males on here often are looked upon as PLAYERS and the Females get Played? I find many females are extreme players and won't even respond to messeges even with a polite "no thank you"


Funny, I heard it the other way myself. That us females are the players. We come on here searching but never meet. Guess I was off in my other little world for awhile there and things changed while I was gone.. LOL

Keep chin up and don't be discouraged.



Actually, as someone else so elequently put it, there are players of all kinds on the 'net. Hence the reason Our search isn't over. We've figured out over time how to weed them out relatively quickly, but it not a positive influence and doesn't give those of U/us who live this lifestyle a good impression to someone who is new, curious and wanting to learn. The players have made it so bad, that a true lifestyler can honestly answer a question and the answer is played off as though a player made the comment and doesn't know what they are talking about.  It takes all kinds on the 'net, but it'd be nice if the real people would be more prominant sometimes and not overshadowed by the players.


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