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rulemylife -> Witness says BP took 'shortcuts' (5/26/2010 10:20:37 AM)

AP Exclusive: Witness says BP took 'shortcuts

COVINGTON, La. — Senior managers complained oil giant BP was "taking shortcuts" by replacing heavy drilling fluid with saltwater in the well that blew out, triggering the massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, according to witness statements obtained by The Associated Press.

Truitt Crawford, a roustabout for drilling rig owner Transocean Ltd., told Coast Guard investigators about the complaints. The seawater, which would have provided less weight to contain surging pressure from the ocean depths, was being used to prepare for dropping a final blob of cement into the well.

"I overheard upper management talking saying that BP was taking shortcuts by displacing the well with saltwater instead of mud without sealing the well with cement plugs, this is why it blew out," Crawford said in his statement.

A spokesman for BP, which was leasing the rig Deepwater Horizon when it exploded April 20, killing 11 workers and triggering a massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, declined to comment.

....Meanwhile, the statements from workers ahead of a hearing in New Orleans on Wednesday and a congressional memo about a BP internal investigation of the blast indicated warning signs were ignored. Tests less than an hour before the well blew out found a buildup of pressure that was an "indicator of a very large abnormality," BP's investigator said, according to the congressional memo.

Still, the rig team was "satisfied" that another test was successful and resumed adding the seawater, said the memo by U.S. Reps. Henry Waxman and Bart Stupak to members of the Committee on Energy and Commerce, which is investigating what went wrong.

There were other signs of problems, including an unexpected loss of fluid from a pipe known as a riser five hours before the explosion, which the memo said could have indicated a leak in the blowout preventer, a huge piece of equipment that should have shut down the well in case of an emergency. BP has cited its failure as a contributor to the blast.

The witness statements show rig workers talked just minutes before the blowout about pressure problems in the well. At first, nobody seemed too worried: The chief mate for Transocean left two crew members to deal with the issue on their own.

What began as a routine pressure problem, however, suddenly turned to panic. The workers called bosses to report a situation, with assistant driller Stephen Curtis telling one senior operator that the well was "coming in." Someone told well site leader Donald Vidrine that they were "getting mud back." The toolpusher, Jason Anderson, tried to shut down the well.

It didn't work. Both Curtis and Anderson died in the explosion.

At the hearing in New Orleans on Wednesday, Douglas Brown, the Deepwater Horizon's chief mechanic, testified about what he described as a "skirmish" between someone he called the "company man" — a BP official — and three other employees during a meeting the day of the explosion.

Brown said he didn't pay particular attention to what they were discussing because it did not involve his engine room duties. He later said he did not know the BP official's name.

"The driller outlined what would be taking place, but the company man stood up and said 'We'll be having some changes to that,'" Brown testified. He said the three other workers initially disagreed but "the company man said 'This is how it's going to be.'"





pahunkboy -> RE: Witness says BP took 'shortcuts' (5/26/2010 11:03:18 AM)

I thought you did not do conspiracies?




Vendaval -> RE: Witness says BP took 'shortcuts' (5/27/2010 12:44:32 AM)

No surprise there, plenty of bad decision making led to this disaster. No doubt we will be learning more details in the months to come. [>:]




thompsonx -> RE: Witness says BP took 'shortcuts' (5/27/2010 1:51:25 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Vendaval

No surprise there, plenty of bad decision making led to this disaster. No doubt we will be learning more details in the months to come. [>:]


Do you feel that these "bad decisions" were just poor judgement by highly trained professionals or do you think that black ink on the bottom line was the deciding criteria?




pahunkboy -> RE: Witness says BP took 'shortcuts' (5/27/2010 1:53:03 PM)

Thom. silly man.  No one here THINKS.

We hang out.   but we almost never think.




thompsonx -> RE: Witness says BP took 'shortcuts' (5/27/2010 1:56:54 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Thom. silly man.  No one here THINKS.

We hang out.   but we almost never think.



There are numerous posters on this board who are actually quite deep thinkers.




Vendaval -> RE: Witness says BP took 'shortcuts' (5/27/2010 3:43:40 PM)

IMO, the greed for profit and disregard for potential technical and human failures created this mess.

A new slant on the "no blood for oil" slogan.




thornhappy -> RE: Witness says BP took 'shortcuts' (5/27/2010 4:22:48 PM)

This is a classic engineering disaster...caused not by a single fault (including decision making), but several of them in combination.

Looks like they stopped the "top kill" due to too much mud leaking out with the oil.  Earlier they had to dispatch another ship because they'd run out of mud.




Vendaval -> RE: Witness says BP took 'shortcuts' (5/27/2010 4:48:23 PM)

Damn. They didn't even get the amount of mud needed right?




rulemylife -> RE: Witness says BP took 'shortcuts' (5/27/2010 8:00:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

I thought you did not do conspiracies?


I do when they are supported by witnesses or facts, not some whack job like Alex Jones making up theories to entertain people like you.

These were statements given to Coast Guard investigators.








rulemylife -> RE: Witness says BP took 'shortcuts' (5/27/2010 8:24:44 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: thornhappy

This is a classic engineering disaster...caused not by a single fault (including decision making), but several of them in combination.



There almost always is a chain of events in any accident in whatever field, not just engineering.

You can also almost always pin it down to a primary cause though, with the rest being contributing factors.

I don't know anything about oil wells but if what the first sentence in the article says is true then that would point to it as being primary.




DarkSteven -> RE: Witness says BP took 'shortcuts' (5/27/2010 8:39:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: thornhappy

This is a classic engineering disaster...caused not by a single fault (including decision making), but several of them in combination.

Looks like they stopped the "top kill" due to too much mud leaking out with the oil.  Earlier they had to dispatch another ship because they'd run out of mud.



Yup.  Sounds like they'd been skirting safety precautions for years.  You skip one, nothing happens... then you skip another... everything's fine until all hell suddenly breaks loose.




rulemylife -> RE: Witness says BP took 'shortcuts' (5/27/2010 9:10:35 PM)

For anyone who clicked the link and was confused, the reason the link doesn't match the article is because AP continually updates their topics and some subscriber news organizations automatically publish those under the original link.

It's the reason I usually post so much of the original article when it is from AP.

Here's a link closer to the original, though some things were left out and others added even here.

Witness says BP took 'shortcuts' | The Portland Press Herald




thompsonx -> RE: Witness says BP took 'shortcuts' (5/28/2010 2:15:57 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Vendaval

IMO, the greed for profit and disregard for potential technical and human failures created this mess.

A new slant on the "no blood for oil" slogan.




I am prone to agree with you but we have as yet to have a lot of hard data. What we do have is the past hundred years or so of oil companies putting black ink on the bottom line ahead of all other considerations. So I have little reason to doubt that this is just the same shit different day.




thornhappy -> RE: Witness says BP took 'shortcuts' (5/28/2010 2:55:54 PM)

I be an engineer, and tend to read about engineering disasters...so I spoke to engineering disasters.  I had some classes about decision making in a variety of cases and threw that in there for jollies.
quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: thornhappy

This is a classic engineering disaster...caused not by a single fault (including decision making), but several of them in combination.



There almost always is a chain of events in any accident in whatever field, not just engineering.

You can also almost always pin it down to a primary cause though, with the rest being contributing factors.

I don't know anything about oil wells but if what the first sentence in the article says is true then that would point to it as being primary.





thornhappy -> RE: Witness says BP took 'shortcuts' (5/28/2010 3:06:20 PM)

I guess only 10-15% was staying down there.

Have you watched the video feed?  That pipe looks like kleenex now.
quote:

ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Damn. They didn't even get the amount of mud needed right?




Vendaval -> RE: Witness says BP took 'shortcuts' (5/28/2010 4:51:28 PM)

Partial success is better than nothing. But why wasn't the technology to deal with this type of problem developed before drilling that deep?

Video feed on CNN -
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/28/gulf.oil.spill/index.html?hpt=T1




popeye1250 -> RE: Witness says BP took 'shortcuts' (5/28/2010 4:54:05 PM)

All is well! President Obama is,....."in charge" now!




Lucylastic -> RE: Witness says BP took 'shortcuts' (5/28/2010 5:00:30 PM)

Not even the "messiah" can stop an oil leak you plonker...gawd you  are getting boringly repetitive.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Witness says BP took 'shortcuts' (5/28/2010 6:18:50 PM)

If Dubya and cheney were still in charge, these reports would never have seen the light of day.




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