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mnottertail -> RE: Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence (5/28/2010 11:44:12 AM)

you wanna be with yourn.  horse apiece?




domiguy -> RE: Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence (5/28/2010 5:25:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls


By the way, my census worker came by for the 7th time, and his supervisor one time. They have no idea who they are up against. I already disconnected my doorbell, and I'm prepared to outlast him all summer long if necessary. They aren't going to interrogate me in an unconstitutional census.

It's going to be hotter than hell this summer while he sits in his car down the street. While I'm comfortable in my a/c watching my tv.

Yes, this is how I get my jollies.



You get your jollies in a manner that alienates everyone that you have ever come into contact with...EVERYONE!!!

No one likes you. No one wants to be around you.

(imho) YMMV




thompsonx -> RE: Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence (5/28/2010 5:52:04 PM)

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You said constitutionally authorized Census. Well how is it constitutional if they are counting illegal aliens?


How do you prove you are a citizen?
Your birth certificate has a name and a foot print...what does that prove?
Drivers license,social security card and passport use a birth certificate for validation.
The only people who could possibly prove they are citizens would be naturalized citizens.
Those with top secret security clearances could because the security check takes your data backwards all the way to the birth certificate.
So just how would you prove your citizenship...if you can't can we chuck your ass out?




TreasureKY -> RE: Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence (5/28/2010 6:05:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

I believe I want to be THANKED for this post.


I'll leave the thank-you card on your kitchen counter after I'm through sneaking around your house counting pairs of shoes.



lol... If a census taker were to expect to get an accurate number by counting shoes in this house, they'd be sorely mistaken.  They'd believe there were at least 49 people living in mine and Firm's bedroom alone!

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

We did months ago. I have nothing to hide. lol


Yes- but did you send it certified returned receipt?

That is cheaper then $500 fine for a "lost" form.



Honestly, pa... where do you come up with this stuff?  Our official form was "lost"... a taker simply came by later in person to get the info.  No fine involved.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence (5/28/2010 6:16:15 PM)

Pahunk. I work the census. youre full of CRAP




TheHeretic -> RE: Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence (5/28/2010 8:16:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

How do they count people living there if no one is home ??



One person per underwear size.




Termyn8or -> RE: Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence (5/28/2010 8:26:06 PM)

"ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Yeah but Barr was almost President.  So he must know this law.  "

Whaaaat ? Maybe you are crazy or something.* Haven't you seen the developments in the last few decades ? How can you even think to say that ?

And what you and Real and a few other might not like to hear, the President has no reason to know the law. Since the standing of the Emergency War Powers Act, the Commander In Chief is indeed by law, above the law.

Told you you wouldn't like it.

* Note please how that is not phrased as an allegation.

T




ricken -> RE: Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence (5/28/2010 9:00:26 PM)

So I install phone entry systems on apartment buildings, we program our officephone numbers into the systems. I've gotten a few calls from the census takers and I refuse to buzz open the doors for them. Am I breaking the law?

I really don't get the big deal...
I'm lazy and mailed my form in after the counter came around and posted a note on my door, I thought I was being a pain in their ass.

I saw a video, forgot what country someplace in South America, but they pretty had EVERYONE to stay inside one day while people did the counting, all you saw was cops and census people on the street.







Termyn8or -> RE: Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence (5/28/2010 9:04:59 PM)

You don't have to let them in, I went out to the porch and found the guy a chair. I refused to answer what I chose not to answer and I answered what I deemed proper in light of the Constitution and the purpose of the census. That is all. We parted on good terms.

T




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence (5/28/2010 9:28:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ricken

So I install phone entry systems on apartment buildings, we program our officephone numbers into the systems. I've gotten a few calls from the census takers and I refuse to buzz open the doors for them. Am I breaking the law?



No, for two reasons. First of all, census workers are required to show you Official Government Identification Cards to prove they're legit, and if you're not physically present, they can't do that. Second, you can't be required to grant access to a property unless you are the owner or an agent authorized by the owner to manage the building. I forget the exact wording of the regulation, but that's close enough for the sake of discussion, and your case clearly falls outside the parameters. It's not reasonable to expect a third-party contractor to make decisions on whom to grant building access to. That doesn't mean you can't let them in; it just means you can't be compelled to.




Brain -> RE: Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence (5/28/2010 9:56:26 PM)

Re: everything

Well said.

Bill




LanceHughes -> RE: Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence (5/28/2010 10:37:21 PM)

I'm working as a Census Enumerator.  After three personal visits and three telephone contacts (in any order), we enumerators are DONE. That is NOT 6 of a 1-5 or 2-4 mixture.  If we've done 3 personal and no telephone number is available, we're done.  On personal visits, we usually leave a "Notice of Visit" with our phone numbers for resident to call to set-up either a phone interview or a time for a personal interview.  After 3 personal and no papers-on-porch, dogs are barking, etc. the property is marked "Occupied" and we move on to next housing unit and maybe into next district.

We aren't going to spend whole summer looking for the name of one person. Panda has $ amount dead on. As a matter of fact, just found out today, Friday, May 28th that all forms must be returned to crew leaders on Monday, the 31st.  If the housing unit is not marked as a CI (which is completed interview) we get to fill out an "info comm" telling why.  Pain in the butt, and being used to spur end-of-May deadline compliance.

If you mailed it in late....we enumerators didn't get it, get it?  Our "books of work" were produced just before being handed to us, but didn't get every late form.... Duh!

Had one lady hand me her form - and there IS a procedure to get the info recorded.

I'm real tired of the paranoids.  It's okay, Lance, the Census Enumerators will stop knocking and gathering Constitutionally mandated info.  The counts will ALL be approximated anyway.

The following colored section is MY opinion and should not be assumed to be that of the Census Bereau, the USA, or any other blah, blah, blah.... It is not being provided for any recompense, blah, blah, blah..... Did YOU get the memo? LOL!
For those of us that are a little older (and have seen a few more Censuses done than you young pups) this is the weakest one I can remember.  I attribute the weakness of the data gathered mainly to the up-roar about accuracy last time.  What a frigging back-lash there was.  So, the government, in its wisdom, backed off from aggressive enumerators, thereby sacrificing accuracy.
 
Think about the illegal immigrant question for a minute.... States with a higher proportion of IIs might possibly receive higher representation in the US House than otherwise, but probably not.  The US pop is about 310,000,000 in 2010.  There are 435 Representatives.  I'll do the math. 1 Representative for each 712,000 people.  So, for a state to gain an extra "illegal" representative, they need that many illegals.  OTHER GROWTH MAY ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO GAINING A REPRESENTATIVE!!!

Let's see, Arizona has approx 6,500,000 people as of 2009, and 712,000 is close to 11% of 6.5 million.  The question is, does Arizona have 11% illegal immigrants, and NO OTHER STATE HAS ANY?  That is, Arizona currently has 8 representatives.  To gain another 9th, "illegal" representative, some other state has to give up one!

Another way to think of it.... Current Arizona population (as estimated by U.S.Census bureau for 2009 - LOL - they do many more studies than just one every ten years) is 6,500,000. The 2010 divider for whole US is 712,000, meaning that Arizona will probably be assigned 9 (since 6,500,000 divided by 712,000 is 9.13)  Ahhh.... but what was the increase in the divider?

Too tired to continue. (11:45 PM local time.)  G'nite to all you non-math types.






pahunkboy -> RE: Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence (5/29/2010 2:43:28 AM)

We have 2 government agents on this thread alone.

I think Alex is owed an apology.




mnottertail -> RE: Census workers can enter your apartment in your absence (5/29/2010 5:51:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

How do they count people living there if no one is home ??



One person per underwear size.


Ah Ha, Rich..........the conundrum lies in an accurate accounting of female slaves........

Math question: How many female slaves does a man own if there are no panties in the house?

(Simple answer:  Any and all of em.  But this in and of itself is not what we referred to in kindygarden as a counting number) 

We would have to go to the turquoise column on the abacus to answer that one.................

LOL

Ron




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