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kiwisub12 -> RE: What the heck is with the Arab countries? (5/30/2010 10:50:06 AM)
And for the record, the culture that brought you sanitation and arithmatic, now seem to be mired in a backwater - perhaps you could produce some facts that can prove me otherwise. That isn't racist, that is an opinion, and would seem to be born out with the facts.

pahunkboy -> RE: What the heck is with the Arab countries? (5/30/2010 10:52:23 AM)
arithmatic, What is that??????????????????????????

Real0ne -> RE: What the heck is with the Arab countries? (5/30/2010 10:52:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kiwisub12 Ah .... who advocated wiping out their religious traditions? as i previously said, this thread at this point is cultural, not religious. If you want a religious thread, start your own, and prepare to be lonely. a what do you think their laws are? The standards people live by are their religion and that religion has origins somewhere. If your origins are the state then you have nothing sacred and no place of sanctuary but the state and the state changes on a whim. You have no origin, no history, nothing sacred, nothing to be desired. the problem here is that YOU do not understand the depths and origins of what you are talking about.

Moonhead -> RE: What the heck is with the Arab countries? (5/30/2010 10:54:36 AM)
Is it a full moon this weekend or something?

pahunkboy -> RE: What the heck is with the Arab countries? (5/30/2010 10:56:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead Is it a full moon this weekend or something? PROVE that there is a moon.

Level -> RE: What the heck is with the Arab countries? (5/30/2010 10:56:48 AM)
Most Arab nations have had self-absorbed dictators running things; that's some of the answer.

thornhappy -> RE: What the heck is with the Arab countries? (5/30/2010 10:57:00 AM)
Full moon was 2 days ago, close enough for horseshoes, hand grenades, and tactical nuclear weapons!

pahunkboy -> RE: What the heck is with the Arab countries? (5/30/2010 10:57:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thornhappy Full moon was 2 days ago, close enough for jazz! except for they are slow over there. figure 2 days for the time change

dcnovice -> RE: What the heck is with the Arab countries? (5/30/2010 10:58:42 AM)
More food for thought, from the New Yorker. Found in Translation: The Contemporary Arabic Novel

DarkSteven -> RE: What the heck is with the Arab countries? (5/30/2010 10:58:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead Is it a full moon this weekend or something? PROVE that there is a moon. Sure! [sm=moon.gif]

Moonhead -> RE: What the heck is with the Arab countries? (5/30/2010 11:00:51 AM)
[:D]

pahunkboy -> RE: What the heck is with the Arab countries? (5/30/2010 11:02:55 AM)
LOL

Real0ne -> RE: What the heck is with the Arab countries? (5/30/2010 11:06:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven kiwisub, your post pretty much says what I feel. And I was incorrect to paint only modern day Arabs as being backwards when by WW2, they were already cloistered and required Lawrence of Arabia to get any cohesion from them. What I would like to know is what makes you think they are backwards? Because their culture is different than yours? Racism in the guise of culturalism Look at how racist they are. They are xenophobic and distrust outside influences, while the West assimilates and welcomes them. Also, the Arab states have not made any technological advances for centuries. As Fareed Zakariah also mentions in the article dcnovice mentioned, they produce hardly any books either. Upon reading Zakariah's article, I have this feeling that the great foundation of capitalism - work and you get rewarded for it - has not hit the Arab world. There are those who get money from family holdings or oil sales, and that seems it. I have never heard of any Arab owned company (not in the Arab countries - there are some in the US). I'm not sure if that is because of the difficulty in raising capital there, or just plain not understanding the value of work. quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne yeh the political arm of jude goes directly against the prescription of G-D and was created by zionists not orthodox jews. I'm not sure how you come to speak for G_d. But since He authorized the taking of Canaan, I'm not sure that He opposed the state of Israel. quote: Orthodox jews protest at literally every event against the state of is-ra-el. Orthodox Jews are defined by religious belief, not political worldview. quote: The bigger problem with this thread is that it appears to promote cultural genocide. Screw the other guys religion all religions must come into our definition of what life must be. Which of course is the religion of state. I agree with you that Israel is a religion of state, but I'm not sure what the rest of that snippet is saying. So their racism justifies counter racism is that your point? Its one thing to want to be left alone which is the way I have always seen it with them, and its another to do what you are doing by going on a crusade against them. You expect they are to trust you? You are truly kidding right? Where is it written YOU are the bringer of truth integrity and righteousness? They have a damn good reason not to trust after the us fucked them out of billions in their investments. You sell them snake oil and expect they should trust you and now you want to impose trust upon them by drumming up support to wipe out their culture and put one in that is more amenable to YOUR tastes. That IS the underlying message in your post.

Moonhead -> RE: What the heck is with the Arab countries? (5/30/2010 11:08:46 AM)
And there was me thinking that the underlying message of his post is "why has the middle east been heading steadily downhill since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire?"

Real0ne -> RE: What the heck is with the Arab countries? (5/30/2010 11:09:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Level Most Arab nations have had self-absorbed dictators running things; that's some of the answer. and we dont? Changing the names doesnt change the outcome. do you know what an executive order "REALLY" is? Everyone here seems to forget that little fly in the ointment.

pahunkboy -> RE: What the heck is with the Arab countries? (5/30/2010 11:10:15 AM)
RO- Steve has as much control of Zionists as you do of The White House. I keep getting Gaza stuff in my email- from Ireland. - a buddy. The govt does not care what I think- much of this list could care less what I think. Which brings us back to have much real say so would OP have on Zionists policy?

Real0ne -> RE: What the heck is with the Arab countries? (5/30/2010 11:10:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead And there was me thinking that the underlying message of his post is "why has the middle east been heading steadily downhill since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire?" western banking and commercialization.

kiwisub12 -> RE: What the heck is with the Arab countries? (5/30/2010 11:40:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne [ Its one thing to want to be left alone which is the way I have always seen it with them, and its another to do what you are doing by going on a crusade against them. and yet again .......................... show me where ANYONE (other than you) is on a crusade. The simple question was, and i repeat again, What is up with the Arab countries? Could you possibly stay on topic? [8\|]

Real0ne -> RE: What the heck is with the Arab countries? (5/30/2010 11:41:12 AM)
disappearing posts are what ruined the efficacy of this board last round. The efforts of a few to control and suppress unpopular view points. Other boards are getting more lax and tolerant in an effort to let the chips fall where they may. How do you feel about that rich? Do you think its because commercialization and suppression of cultural and political views would cause their going backwards after the ottoman period?

Real0ne -> RE: What the heck is with the Arab countries? (5/30/2010 11:43:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kiwisub12 quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne [ Its one thing to want to be left alone which is the way I have always seen it with them, and its another to do what you are doing by going on a crusade against them. and yet again .......................... show me where ANYONE (other than you) is on a crusade. The simple question was, and i repeat again, What is up with the Arab countries? Could you possibly stay on topic? [8\|] you ask a question that involves 100's of variables and then whine when I talk about the extent of those variables because I do not talk within what you feel the boundaraies should be. Had my post not disappeared I already said I would stand down and let you all bash the arabs to your hearts content.

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