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DaddysInkedSlut -> RE: What would you do in this situation? (5/31/2010 8:54:09 AM)

Lady Pact

I haven't read the OPs former posts, I dont know him from Adam. I simply responded to this OP.

If you dont think their is a stigma towards people with complulsive disoders, you are gravely mistaken. Many people assume it is simply a case of "lacking self control" when in truth the issue is much deeper than that. However, they make their judgements off their ignorance. Granted that is not different than any other mental disorder.

I will also point out although there are support groups they are NOT the same as therapy. Nor did I ever suggest a dominant should act or replace a submissive/slaves therapist. Even if they are qualified it is totally unethical. I did and do think that an owner should understand, support, and even be involved in therapy and treatment. After all it does affect how someone can / does serve. I did and will continue to say that if there is a complusive disoder simply ordering that the act not occure is not going to be enough to curb the compulsion. Infact IMO I think it is setting the submissive up to fail.





PeonForHer -> RE: What would you do in this situation? (5/31/2010 9:38:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I was thinking 'not S/m day' specifically meant there wasn't going to be any play, rather than the power dynamic between them only existed on certain days.  Which, no S/m would make perfect sense to Me, due to the trip to the dentist.


Ah - well, if it meant that rather than 'no D/s dynamics' (as I thought it implied)  then we could be zeroing in on the central problem, here.  It seems to be this, specifically, that threw the OP's mistress into a rage.  I wonder if they have different assumptions about what 'No MS today' implies for the ongoing way in which they relate. 





domiguy -> RE: What would you do in this situation? (5/31/2010 9:48:46 AM)

I have no idea how you fuckers run your shit.

Who's money is it? As long as you take care of your shit and are responsible with your funds what in the fuck should I care?

I understand the majority of you are incapable to be left to act on your own volition. You are beyond help.

A video game, a pair of shoes, a top, a bra? Who really gives a flying fuck?

Now it might be that lurch is a complete pain in the ass and this is nothing more than the final straw that broke the camel's back. But on the surface of just this one single post I think it illuminates someone that is really sweating the small shit.

Who gets so bent over something so trivial?

I would kick her in the box and take my video game and go home. (imho) YMMV




heartcream -> RE: What would you do in this situation? (5/31/2010 9:58:41 AM)

Jesus freaking christ what a pile of crap.




LadyPact -> RE: What would you do in this situation? (5/31/2010 10:05:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DaddysInkedSlut

Lady Pact

I haven't read the OPs former posts, I dont know him from Adam. I simply responded to this OP.

If you dont think their is a stigma towards people with complulsive disoders, you are gravely mistaken. Many people assume it is simply a case of "lacking self control" when in truth the issue is much deeper than that. However, they make their judgements off their ignorance. Granted that is not different than any other mental disorder.

I will also point out although there are support groups they are NOT the same as therapy. Nor did I ever suggest a dominant should act or replace a submissive/slaves therapist. Even if they are qualified it is totally unethical. I did and do think that an owner should understand, support, and even be involved in therapy and treatment. After all it does affect how someone can / does serve. I did and will continue to say that if there is a complusive disoder simply ordering that the act not occure is not going to be enough to curb the compulsion. Infact IMO I think it is setting the submissive up to fail.



Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.  I'll attribute that to some Owners being more willing to accept disobedience than others and some having different tolerance levels for what contributes to that disobedience.  I tend to be more toward the mind set that refuses to coddle someone if they don't make every effort to get whatever help they need to be successful. 




loverly -> RE: What would you do in this situation? (5/31/2010 10:10:13 AM)

ok wait a minute here................................ there is actually a DAY when we shed our personalities and deepest beliefs and feelings? and we would wish to do that cuz....?

WTF !?!?! a "no s&M" day?!?!?!?!?! umm is that like a day off from Work!? no one told me this....

[sm=rofl.gif]





LadyPact -> RE: What would you do in this situation? (5/31/2010 10:11:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
Ah - well, if it meant that rather than 'no D/s dynamics' (as I thought it implied)  then we could be zeroing in on the central problem, here.  It seems to be this, specifically, that threw the OP's mistress into a rage.  I wonder if they have different assumptions about what 'No MS today' implies for the ongoing way in which they relate. 

Hard to say.  Clarification might be in order. 

Just knowing Myself, I wouldn't have a problem with putting off My sadism temporarily due to a dentist trip.  I tend to link that as compassion and empathy. 

I have very little experience in dynamics (the actual authority part) that are in place on some days and not on others. 




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: What would you do in this situation? (5/31/2010 10:11:39 AM)

what would I do in that situation? Kick myself for impulse buying, return the game and then reconsider my relationship with someone I refused to respect and who went hyper dramatic on me on an already emotionally strained day.





domiguy -> RE: What would you do in this situation? (5/31/2010 10:18:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

what would I do in that situation? Kick myself for impulse buying, return the game and then reconsider my relationship with someone I refused to respect and who went hyper dramatic on me on an already emotionally strained day.




So many complete fucking tools doing this thang. Both sides of the equation.




DaddysInkedSlut -> RE: What would you do in this situation? (5/31/2010 10:19:04 AM)

Edited because its truly not worth it. You are right we will just have to agree to disagree.




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: What would you do in this situation? (5/31/2010 10:24:13 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy


quote:

ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

what would I do in that situation? Kick myself for impulse buying, return the game and then reconsider my relationship with someone I refused to respect and who went hyper dramatic on me on an already emotionally strained day.




So many complete fucking tools doing this thang. Both sides of the equation.


hmm...well tools ARE useful and fucking tools fun - so is this your way of endorsing it?




MistressOfGa -> RE: What would you do in this situation? (5/31/2010 10:24:28 AM)

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Hard to say. Clarification might be in order.


That is exactly why I asked for clarification.

I can't wrap my mind around a "Day of no D/s or M/s" but I can understand if they had agreed that the day would not involve any S&M activities, due to his dental procedure.

I haven't read his other posts either. I was going by this one thread and it seems to me, the OP felt it was easier to ask for forgiveness later rather than wait for permission now. This, in my opinion, is a completely vanilla way of thinking.

Like Domi says, YMMV.

MoGa




LadyPact -> RE: What would you do in this situation? (5/31/2010 10:28:56 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: loverly

ok wait a minute here................................ there is actually a DAY when we shed our personalities and deepest beliefs and feelings? and we would wish to do that cuz....?

WTF !?!?! a "no s&M" day?!?!?!?!?! umm is that like a day off from Work!? no one told me this....

[sm=rofl.gif]



This is wrong.  This is going to be taken wrong.  It has all potential of being taken wrong from every possible angle.

Still..............

I read this and thought to Myself:

"Do you have a sadist in your life, dear?  I think you should tell him that you read on the net that there is such a thing as a no S/m day.  I think you should tell him right away.  Just think of the wonderful reaction he will have to it.  Oh, not in the joking, ha ha ha isn't it funny kind of way.  Rather, the kind of way that gets him to raise his brow and reply something along the lines of 'oh reaaaalllllly'.  You know what I mean.  That kind of look that you've seen on his face before when you just know inside you that he's decided that stretching his sadistic legs is the perfect idea for the moment.  What fun I bet he'd have during that bit of sadistic fun, to mention every once in a while that it isn't S/m day as he's taking that dragon's tongue to you or swinging that flogger against your backside."


As I said, it would be taken wrong.  If you don't enjoy such things, I wouldn't wish them upon you.  However, as a sadist, I can say I'd enjoy the hell out of such a thing.  [:D]




Lockit -> RE: What would you do in this situation? (5/31/2010 10:29:11 AM)

Sorry ma'am, you can play with my bits, but not my xbox!

While we're at it ma'am, you can only boss me around in certain area's, don't touch my self importance, my need for attention, my need to cause drama and keep it rockin, when I wish to be defensive and make excuses and when I simply want to be a man-child.

No problem dear one, you may go to counseling for the compulsive needs you have, I won't hinder or enable you and I really cannot play with your bits until you have some change and healing with your issues. I do wish you well with that and good luck.




MistressOfGa -> RE: What would you do in this situation? (5/31/2010 10:39:48 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: loverly

ok wait a minute here................................ there is actually a DAY when we shed our personalities and deepest beliefs and feelings? and we would wish to do that cuz....?

WTF !?!?! a "no s&M" day?!?!?!?!?! umm is that like a day off from Work!? no one told me this....

[sm=rofl.gif]



This is wrong.  This is going to be taken wrong.  It has all potential of being taken wrong from every possible angle.

Still..............

I read this and thought to Myself:

"Do you have a sadist in your life, dear?  I think you should tell him that you read on the net that there is such a thing as a no S/m day.  I think you should tell him right away.  Just think of the wonderful reaction he will have to it.  Oh, not in the joking, ha ha ha isn't it funny kind of way.  Rather, the kind of way that gets him to raise his brow and reply something along the lines of 'oh reaaaalllllly'.  You know what I mean.  That kind of look that you've seen on his face before when you just know inside you that he's decided that stretching his sadistic legs is the perfect idea for the moment.  What fun I bet he'd have during that bit of sadistic fun, to mention every once in a while that it isn't S/m day as he's taking that dragon's tongue to you or swinging that flogger against your backside."


As I said, it would be taken wrong.  If you don't enjoy such things, I wouldn't wish them upon you.  However, as a sadist, I can say I'd enjoy the hell out of such a thing.  [:D]



Absolutely!

I would love nothing more than to have my boy come up to me and tell me "Today is not an S&M day Mistress". He would get my Look immediately, and then he would get much much more than he bargained for.

What fun!! [:D]

MoGa




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: What would you do in this situation? (5/31/2010 10:41:46 AM)

Hmm....sooo like children, Dominants are susceptable to reverse psychology? Good to know (snickers)[:D]




PeonForHer -> RE: What would you do in this situation? (5/31/2010 10:43:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
Ah - well, if it meant that rather than 'no D/s dynamics' (as I thought it implied)  then we could be zeroing in on the central problem, here.  It seems to be this, specifically, that threw the OP's mistress into a rage.  I wonder if they have different assumptions about what 'No MS today' implies for the ongoing way in which they relate. 

Hard to say.  Clarification might be in order. 



Yep, not least re whether he was talking about sado masochism or mistress-and-slave. 




PeonForHer -> RE: What would you do in this situation? (5/31/2010 10:48:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: loverly

ok wait a minute here................................ there is actually a DAY when we shed our personalities and deepest beliefs and feelings? and we would wish to do that cuz....?

WTF !?!?! a "no s&M" day?!?!?!?!?! umm is that like a day off from Work!? no one told me this....

[sm=rofl.gif]


I don't recall the OP saying that 'MS' (whatever that means for him) *did* involve his deepest beliefs and feelings, loverly. 




MistressOfGa -> RE: What would you do in this situation? (5/31/2010 11:00:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

Hmm....sooo like children, Dominants are susceptable to reverse psychology? Good to know (snickers)[:D]


Are you saying that I am acting like a child because of having a little fun with what a boy of mine might say to me?

What gave you the impression that he would enjoy what I would do? I am talking about fun for me. Not him [;)]




SylvereApLeanan -> RE: What would you do in this situation? (5/31/2010 11:09:42 AM)

I'm in agreement with everyone who said they'd kick you to the curb.  But let me give you a little perspective that no one else has shared yet. 
 
Not only would your behavior be unacceptable as a sub, I divorced my ex-husband for similar reasons. 
 
This level of immaturity makes you unfit for a vanilla relationship, let alone a D/s one, IMO.  Go away, get some therapy (because you clearly have ISSUES), and come back when you're all grown up.




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