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Mistresses with LOTS of slaves - 6/2/2010 4:39:04 PM   
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What is your opinion about Mistresses who have LOTS of slaves (for example 30, 40 or even more, sometimes even hundreds of slaves) ?
Such situation usually happens online and includes usually financial domination.
Financial domination per se is totally OK as long as it's not abused.
But the problem that I see with these types of relationships is that each of these slaves will receive extremely
little attention from the domme, because she is physically unable to maintain intensive relationships with so many slaves.
Can such relationships really be healthy?
Can the domme be able to provide good guidance and domination to so many slaves?
Can the slave be fulfilled knowing that he is just one of many, many slaves that she has?
Is it normal to be in such relationship where slaves full attention goes in the direction of ONE domme, while
her attention is divided to so many slaves?
This is not exactly the same as pro domination because in pro domination, all the interaction,
and financial transactions are session based.
In this type of online relationship, instead of typical payment, slaves pay "tributes" on regular or irregular basis,
and relationships are long-term, usually not session based.
Many of such relationships can last for months or even years, and sometimes the slaves are kept in chastity,
and the domme also serves as keyholder.
And all of this is accomplished in long-distance relationship, sometimes even on intercontinental basis
(for example: slave in UK, domme in US).

What is your opinion about such types of relationships?


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RE: Mistresses with LOTS of slaves - 6/2/2010 4:59:12 PM   
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My own opinion is that such relationships can be good for slaves just in the beginning, so that they learn how it feels to serve, but later, it would usually lead to disappointment.
For Dommes, I think the only real benefit is financial.


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RE: Mistresses with LOTS of slaves - 6/2/2010 5:08:50 PM   
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By the way, I think online relationships can be very meaningful if they are one on one, or even up to 1:10,  but 1:50 or 1:100, I am not really sure.

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RE: Mistresses with LOTS of slaves - 6/2/2010 5:15:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SocratesNot

What is your opinion about Mistresses who have LOTS of slaves (for example 30, 40 or even more, sometimes even hundreds of slaves) ?

I don't know of any dominant women who have that many slaves so I can't form much of an opinion due to lack of experience and real life examples.

Such situation usually happens online and includes usually financial domination.

See above.

Financial domination per se is totally OK as long as it's not abused.

Is that the makings of a box I see in your words?

But the problem that I see with these types of relationships is that each of these slaves will receive extremely
little attention from the domme, because she is physically unable to maintain intensive relationships with so many slaves.

Thank you for your opinion.

Can such relationships really be healthy?

Depends on the wants/needs of the people involved.

Can the domme be able to provide good guidance and domination to so many slaves?

See above.

Can the slave be fulfilled knowing that he is just one of many, many slaves that she has?

See above.

Is it normal to be in such relationship where slaves full attention goes in the direction of ONE domme, while
her attention is divided to so many slaves?

Normal is relative.

This is not exactly the same as pro domination because in pro domination, all the interaction,
and financial transactions are session based.
In this type of online relationship, instead of typical payment, slaves pay "tributes" on regular or irregular basis,
and relationships are long-term, usually not session based.

Has this been your experience?

Many of such relationships can last for months or even years, and sometimes the slaves are kept in chastity,
and the domme also serves as keyholder.
And all of this is accomplished in long-distance relationship, sometimes even on intercontinental basis
(for example: slave in UK, domme in US).

See above question.

What is your opinion about such types of relationships?

See my first answer.  That's the easy reply.
A simpler one...I like the K.I.S.S. approach, which is why I haven't bothered to respond to many of your threads. 

I hope you find the answers you're so earnestly seeking.



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RE: Mistresses with LOTS of slaves - 6/2/2010 5:37:00 PM   
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quote:

Has this been your experience?


Sort of.

In my case there was no financial domination involved, simply because I am broke.
In my country there are no pro-dommes, (actually there is only one with the dungeon in Sarajevo), and the BDSM scene is extremely undeveloped.
So, I decided to try serving one domme online.
I wasn't kept in chastity, but she told me that some of her other slaves were.
This whole relationship lasted around two months.
The service that I provided to her consisted of writing some articles, helping her with her website and writing a blog.
There were no BDSM or fetish activities involved, nor humiliation.
Actually, the whole relationship consisted of me providing service to her by doing some things on computer.
Several times we chatted, but we never had any in-depth conversation about BDSM or D/s.
She never asked me to do anything sexual or fetish oriented, she never punished me, and she didn't control any aspect of my life,
the only thing that I had to do, was to work for her on my computer from time to time, and to send these works to her via e-mail.

So for me, this was very unfulfilling relationship, and finally I decided to leave it.
I expected that as the relationship progresses she will try to control some aspects of my life or at least ask me to do something naughty.
It didn't happen. All that happened was that I was working, and I got absolutely nothing in return, except that I chatted with her few times.

However, she had other slaves and with them the relationship was much more interesting and fulfilling, guess why - they paid, and I didn't.
This way, I came to conclusion, that if there is no financial transaction involved, most dommes have absolutely no interest in dominating anyone
online. And I also came to conclusion, that such types of relationships are pitiful, actually they are not relationships at all, they are illusions of relationships.
In reality, the domme is just doing her job, and the submissive is deluding himself that he is in a relationship.
Of course, the more he pays, the more she will try to make this delusion seem real to him, effectively hooking him to herself and assuring long term income from him.

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RE: Mistresses with LOTS of slaves - 6/2/2010 5:58:43 PM   
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SN,

What I do like about you is the fact that you seem impervious to scratches!

A lot of ways in which people conduct their BDSM lives are utterly alien to me.  I'm the same with lots of people - including all the members of my family - and their vanilla relationships. 

I don't know anything about mistresses who have multiple online subs/slaves and I don't know why or how either side can find it fulfilling.  That whole world seems to have a sub-set of ethics that I can't relate to, as well.  Not that I've ever really tried, mind you. 

For me, half of what I consider important to know about BDSM is about knowing myself and what I want.  The other half is about knowing and understanding the sort of partner who'd suit me, and what she might want.  The rest just doesn't matter. 

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RE: Mistresses with LOTS of slaves - 6/2/2010 6:07:26 PM   
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There were no BDSM or fetish activities involved, nor humiliation.
Actually, the whole relationship consisted of me providing service to her by doing some things on computer.
Several times we chatted, but we never had any in-depth conversation about BDSM or D/s.
She never asked me to do anything sexual or fetish oriented, she never punished me, and she didn't control any aspect of my life,
the only thing that I had to do, was to work for her on my computer from time to time, and to send these works to her via e-mail.

So exactly how did this constitute a BDSM dynamic?  Just because she said, 'hey, I'm a Domme and you're a sub so do this"?  You did what she asked, yes, but exactly where did the Domination part come in?

For example, I could ask, or tell for that matter, peon there to write Me a short story fantasy.  I happen to be a Domme and he happens to be submissive.  While he might be serving Me in doing so (entertainment), I'm not really Dominating him.  I literally have no control over whether he does it.

Watch how this works...........

Write Me a story, peon.





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RE: Mistresses with LOTS of slaves - 6/2/2010 6:13:37 PM   
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There was actually no domination at all. The only "domination" was that she would tell me to do something for her on computer and I would do it. That's all.
I just obeyed her requests about doing some things on computer.


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RE: Mistresses with LOTS of slaves - 6/2/2010 6:23:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SocratesNot

There was actually no domination at all. The only "domination" was that she would tell me to do something for her on computer and I would do it. That's all.
I just obeyed her requests about doing some things on computer.



That wasn't any kind of bdsm relationship at all.  Not even a tiny bit.
Was it even a woman, for sure?

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RE: Mistresses with LOTS of slaves - 6/2/2010 6:28:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SocratesNot

This way, I came to conclusion, that if there is no financial transaction involved, most dommes have absolutely no interest in dominating anyone
online. And I also came to conclusion, that such types of relationships are pitiful, actually they are not relationships at all, they are illusions of relationships.
In reality, the domme is just doing her job, and the submissive is deluding himself that he is in a relationship.
Of course, the more he pays, the more she will try to make this delusion seem real to him, effectively hooking him to herself and assuring long term income from him.


Thank you for giving me some background on why this topic seems to be of interest to you.  Please note the bolded portions from your response.  This was your experiences, your conclusions, your opinions.  This is what I meant about normal being relative.  You've begun to define normal for you...this is good.  Just remember, it's not your job to define normal for others. 

Just wait till you get the chance to experience a D/s dynamic for real before you decide to speak in absolutes.  Even then it'll be difficult.

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RE: Mistresses with LOTS of slaves - 6/2/2010 6:30:15 PM   
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Watch how this works...........

Write Me a story, peon.


Oh right - I getcha, LP.  E's back in town.  By god, you think quickly, don't you?

'So there he was, standing in front of me.  I couldn't believe my eyes - he actually had the effrontery to smile like it was just an everyday event!  And then he pulled my head towards his cock . . . .'

Oh, sorry - threadjack.





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RE: Mistresses with LOTS of slaves - 6/2/2010 6:36:23 PM   
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Yes, she is a woman, we talked few times on Skype.

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RE: Mistresses with LOTS of slaves - 6/2/2010 7:17:34 PM   
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WHO?? Please tell me who has that many slaves and for that matter who has that much time? You are out of your mind if you think any Mistress on this forum has hundreds of slaves. And if its online it is probably not a Mistress anyway; its usually a HIS-tress. (that's right a MAN). Honey you are reading too much false information about this lifestyle.

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RE: Mistresses with LOTS of slaves - 6/2/2010 7:23:47 PM   
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LadyC.. you are talking to a brick wall...

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RE: Mistresses with LOTS of slaves - 6/2/2010 7:27:15 PM   
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WHO?? Please tell me who has that many slaves and for that matter who has that much time? You are out of your mind if you think any Mistress on this forum has hundreds of slaves. And if its online it is probably not a Mistress anyway; its usually a HIS-tress. (that's right a MAN). Honey you are reading too much false information about this lifestyle.
(


That's why I posed this question. To me it seems unbelievable, too. Probably most of the claims of these online mistresses are false, probably this is all exaggerated to lure more slaves. I'm not sure. And maybe everything is totally fake and some MAN, as you said, pimps some girls, and posts fake pictures, and makes a business out of it, and some unsuspecting victims get hooked and lose some cash before realizing that it's all bullshit.

On such sites there are even pictures of slaves doing humiliating stuff etc, which is maybe authentic and maybe not, maybe all of these pictures are made by the authors of websites, and maybe they paid to someone to pose as a slave, and he, being poor, accepted.


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RE: Mistresses with LOTS of slaves - 6/2/2010 7:28:26 PM   
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I don't see it as a dominant/submissive relationship, more of a leech/lonely turd-burglar one.

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RE: Mistresses with LOTS of slaves - 6/2/2010 7:37:59 PM   
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a leech/lonely turd-burglar one.


Now there's a visual

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RE: Mistresses with LOTS of slaves - 6/2/2010 7:39:52 PM   
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That's why I posed this question. To me it seems unbelievable, too. Probably most of the claims of these online mistresses are false, probably this is all exaggerated to lure more slaves. I'm not sure. And maybe everything is totally fake and some MAN, as you said, pimps some girls, and posts fake pictures, and makes a business out of it, and some unsuspecting victims get hooked and lose some cash before realizing that it's all bullshit.

On such sites there are even pictures of slaves doing humiliating stuff etc, which is maybe authentic and maybe not, maybe all of these pictures are made by the authors of websites, and maybe they paid to someone to pose as a slave, and he, being poor, accepted


Ya think??

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RE: Mistresses with LOTS of slaves - 6/2/2010 7:41:02 PM   
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Let me get this straight......Someone told you that the reason they could not give you more online attention, THAT YOU PAID FOR, is because they have hundreds of slaves. You spoke to them on the phone and saw pics on the internet AND YOUR NOT SURE WHETHER OR NOT ITS FAKE.    

ROFLMMFAO!!!!!  uh.......its real.  Just send the woman the money, man. In fact don't even post here anymore unless she gives you permission. 

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RE: Mistresses with LOTS of slaves - 6/2/2010 7:42:38 PM   
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*gives kudos to LadyC*

Hiya and welcome!

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