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RE: How much do you tip your waitress? - 6/5/2010 7:10:19 AM   
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The tips were GREAT.

One wedding comes to mind.  I paid my rent with the tips that weekend.

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RE: How much do you tip your waitress? - 6/5/2010 7:23:45 AM   
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I want to share this story, because its something im starting to see alot of.

Two women came in to dine... mother and daughter... both way above 21. The mother orders the same thing everytime... orange chicken... no spice please. easily done. (of course you know i got them this last time) The daughter orders the pad thai with chicken. Ours is more traditional, not as sweet and with fried tofu, as described on the menu.

They get their food, they have all they need, i check back in a few bites and ask how things are. They both say fine. I specifically ask the mother, who always complains at the previous times she was dining with us, if her dish was spiceless. She claimed yes stating it was very good.

Refills go without a hitch, I check back once more to see if anything is needed. At which time the daughter states the chicken was overcooked. What she was referring too was the tofu. I explained what it was. She asked for a recook.

Now, here is where the history of these two come into play. This isnt the first time they have done this. 6 times they have dined with us. 6 times they have complained, got food for free and recooks.

The cost of the pad thai was removed from the meal. The head chef took out the tofu (carefully with a fork while i watched) and boxed up the food for me to take back to the customer, with the explanation that it was not a recook, what he did and that no recook this time would be forth coming. If you have never worked in an asian restaurant, its good to note now that the head chef makes all the decisions based upon food in the kitchen. They do try to accomidate customers, but to repeatedly ask for recooks when the ingredients are known before being ordered, and the server made no mistake, is an insult to the chef.

At first they accused the Manager of lying to them about what the head chef said. They demanded to speak to the head chef who speaks very little english. Then they accused me of lying saying they didnt want a recook, they wanted a whole new meal. Next they refused to pay for what they ate, at which time the manager stated the cops would be brought in if that was their solution. they spoke to one of the owners who simply stated "we are behind our manager and his decisions". They tried the "we have only been here twice" routine and stated that two other servers were lying when it was brought up that this was how they acted at every dining experience and that, perhaps, we werent the best restaurant choice for them.

This exchange lasted an hour. They complained loudly and bitterly. Of course i got no tip from them... lol. Nor was i expecting one when they entered. I served them well out of respect for my manager (who is a living doll!) They left paying the bill and vowing to never return. At the bar, witnessing this exchange, was the owner of a french bistro from a few blocks away. She stated " They used to come into my place and do the exact same thing."

This has become the expected norm for diners, thanks to chains. If you complain enough, you get free food and a free meal on the next visit. At least that was my experience at the last chain i worked at with a name of a day of the week in its name. This didnt happen in this case. The looks of astonishment on their faces was priceless and more than worth the tip i didnt get.

I adore my job, and this is one of the reasons. a small restaurant, locally owned, has the power to decline whom they serve. A big bonus over the chain stores.

The customer is right... to a point. These are just some of the issues faced by servers all the time. And we smile, take everything in stride, and go about our business. Apparently these women made the comment that they were not tipping me to the dining room. Three of my other tables stated they tipped me more to make up for the "assholes".

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RE: How much do you tip your waitress? - 6/5/2010 7:27:46 AM   
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I have even gone as far as to put $1 tip on a debit card, and hand the person (waitress, hairdresser whatever)  5 or 10 bucks cash.


If I use my debit card but tip in cash, I just write "cash" on the tip line.


Many do just that. If you add wrong, the error is always in the customers favor.

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RE: How much do you tip your waitress? - 6/5/2010 7:37:38 AM   
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Around here, rule of thumb is to double the tax to make a decent tip. More for better service, less for poor service. I tend not to do less unless the service was atrocious, but that does happen on occasion. I have had wait staff botch orders, leave me waiting for 30+ minutes for my food and then have it arrive cold or wrong because they didnt realize it was ready, and completely ignore my empty glass while I was eatting rather than refilling it like they did every table around us. Those situations got significantly smaller tips, and occasionally a mention to the manager if it was really bad. I even had a waitress once stick her nose into our glasses and sniff our drinks to see which was root beer and which pepsi because she had forgotten!






What she said...ditto

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RE: How much do you tip your waitress? - 6/5/2010 7:41:04 AM   
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It is also disruptive- which some would consider disorderly.  (1 hour???)

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RE: How much do you tip your waitress? - 6/5/2010 8:26:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Unless the waiter or waitress is atrocious then I always tip a minimum of 25 percent. If the service is horrible then I have no problem with publically telling the waiter or waitress that they will not be receiving a tip and here are my reasons why. I will not make a scene but I will quietly reinforce to them my reasons and then politely leave. I did have one place where the service was so bad that I ended up going straight to the head manager and pulling the company reservation we had for later that month. Because their wait staff was rude and obnoxious on a semi-slow day in the middle of the afternoon when we politely pointed out that she had brought the wrong orders twice now and then had the nerve to talk down to me and my company guest, the store lost a reservation for 25 people and I made it damn well known which waitress was at fault for it too! I do not brook shoddy service and I definitely do not allow disrespect when money is involved in a service transaction.

If the service is above and beyond than I have been known to tip occasionally more than 50% on the meal and go out of my way to thank the staff and to let management know that I enjoyed my time there. After all, a customer who tips good, is polite and thankful is remembered and gets better service next time! And generally speaking, that type of work is very hard and tiring and I respect the people (for the most part) who are doing it.

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RE: How much do you tip your waitress? - 6/5/2010 8:32:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

I usually tip 20 percent, rounded up to the nearest dollar.

I've heard that it's preferable to get a tip in cash rather than on a credit card. Can any of the servers on this thread let me know if that's true? Thanks.


I think it is super sweet when people do this, it shows compassion and consideration beyond the call of duty.

Here is one example why doing this is preferable.

I worked in a hoity toity place but the owner was a rat. Think paranoid short man with hair plugs. He did the whole humiliation form of intimidation and was so rude not only to his staff but his clientele as well.

He started out in construction (Italian guy) and then opened a pizzeria, I am talking a cheap family style pizzeria out in the burbs. Then the bashtard got into wine and now boasts, literally of course, one of the hugest cellars ever. It was where I served the skank Harper before we knew who the skank was (Harper was a creepy guest, didnt look at me, acted all above me like a princess bitch ballerina).

One day I serve a man and a woman at one of the little bars there. It was lunch they already had a few when they came in.

They took an instant affection to me and I felt the same way about them. They were down to earth and super sweet.

They ordered a hugely expensive bottle of wine and told me they didnt want all the bells and whistles but it was nothing I had control over. The fat sommolier woman, also a freaking bitch, didnt listen to me, (or them) and made a production of decanting into the duck decanter etc.

The people ate some nice food but were mostly there for the drinks. At the end of the meal they ordered a 45$ filet mignon to go for their infant baby that was just starting to sport a few teeth. They were really fun and funny and I had a hoot with them.

The bill came, I forget how much it was but they left an insanely huge tip for me, 300$ on their credit card.

That is where the problem began. The guy used an expense card, he didnt care and he could tip me as much as he wanted. They really liked me and wanted to make a grand gesture.

Except because it was on the credit card I didnt get the tip. The fecks at the restaurant took it and told me it was the wine they were tipping, which was bs.

I chased them around for about a month until one day some hairy ass loser waiter who had been there since it was a crap place gave me 100$ in the wine room because I was annoying by keep asking where the feck my tip was.

They kept 200 of it the c-words.

This is a good reason to give cash, although since it was an expense card that wouldnt have happened anyway.

Places like that deserve to fail mightily.

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RE: How much do you tip your waitress? - 6/5/2010 8:54:45 AM   
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A simple question out of curious. How much do you tip a waitress and why do you tip her that amount? Also what would make you tip her more?

I don't eat out much, but when I do I always give the waitress a tip I think she deserves. If she is quick to come up and retrieves my meal warm, I will tip her more. If she is slow and bring my food cold, she's ain't getting nothing. So if you serve me- I want my meals hot damn it :D I guess that applies to my subs too lol :P

I would give bigger tips of the waitress if she would wear a top hat or cat ears ^^ Those make girls look cute and it's it's not allowed to wear but she wears is anyway, I would tip here even more lol :P

(I didn't write the specific number of money, because the currency and economy is different in Lithuania, and it would look like I'm giving shit to them even if they try hard XD)


30% if excellent food and service, 15% if the food arrived warm and with clean utensils, 0% if the food and service sucked.

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RE: How much do you tip your waitress? - 6/5/2010 9:53:49 AM   
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A simple question out of curious. How much do you tip a waitress and why do you tip her that amount?


I was a server for many years and i have a formula based upon fairness....

I tip 20% for adequate service

I tip 15% for substandard service

I tip 25% for excellent service (and possibly more)

Rarely I will tip 8% for shitty service..... and here is the reason why, servers have to pay 8% taxes on their food sales because the government assumes they will make at least 8% tips on sales, because of this I feel it is only fair that a server does not pay taxes on what they serve me...

Excellent service is when a server anticipates my needs, even the ones that are not so obvious, and I appreciate that sort of service


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RE: How much do you tip your waitress? - 6/5/2010 9:56:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I tip in $5 - $10 - $20

Most meals this will adjust to 10% to 30% Tipping should not require a calculator. If I am eating at a Buffet I tip $3.00 if I never see the bottom of my glass and if they take an intertest in the table and do special things for us I have gone as high as $7.00 but that person worked their ass off.

Tip's in my opinion are part of eating out. Service is only a SMALL part of your dining experience however they are the ones who get blamed for EVERYTHING. About the only thing they have control over is keeping your drinking glass filled.

If someone sucks as a waiter not only do I not tip them I also speak top the Manager, it isn't cause I wanna be a dick but for me to call you a bad waiter you have got to be complete shit.

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RE: How much do you tip your waitress? - 6/5/2010 10:01:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Excuse me but when did you or anyone else for that matter have the right to dictate to others.  i eat out when i can afford it, i dont worry about whether i can afford to tip or not. in the good times when i was employed i tipped always and often as much as 80% and never less than 20% on top of the bill.  Example i buy a dinner for 10 euro i give eight euro on top. However, i can no longer afford to tip but have enough for same dinner.  Restaurant staff want to be tipped? What should they do? Maybe start a campaign to get companies to hire staff, companies that ok are making less than they were but are still making HUGE profits in millions and are happier to let staff go than hire staff and get this economy going again, companies that have lost the plot and are thinking of their own SELFISH needs above the greater good. There is a wealth of talent among the unemployed and it is not being harnessed.  Result: Mass unemployment , less money around, and no money for tips for many people. Impact : Economic stagnation.  People cant tip what they havent got. i dont tip taxi drivers now., should i stop taking taxis, by your logic i should. BALDERDASH.  But unfortunately you are in good company with your views on people that people dont deserve this and dont deserve that.  And all this coming from a lady who lives in the country of the Great America which proclaims in its constitution about equality for all , happiness for all blah blah blah, seems totally aspirational when the same American companies disenfranchise people by turfing them out on the dole when things get a little tough. And its this hypocritical attitude saying and making speeches about equality and doing the exact opposite is why we are in the shit we are in, its why restaurant staff are not getting as much in the way of tips now.  But again, my  original point applies, restaurants should pay their staff properly and the issue doesnt arise. Dont guilt trip the already put upon public to supplement your wages. Do it right. Or walk out or go on a work to rule until the employer starts paying the staff properly. Of all countries, America should surely be militant in these matters
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RE: How much do you tip your waitress? - 6/5/2010 10:05:57 AM   
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2003,  that is a good point. People who eat - are not necessarily full of cash.   Some would say dont go out then-- yet then the complain would be no one eats out.


If the wage of the server was reflected in your food cost (meaning the proprietor paid the server the wage that this sort of employment merits) you would be paying 20 to 25% more for your meal dining out. In fact, I lived in a tourist area when i was younger  (Yosemite) and they added 15% on a foreigner's tab because they stiff.

Basically your server is paying taxes on your food. People who whine about taxes and who stiff their servers tend to be cheap assholes who want to get something for nothing.... dude, didn't you learn, there is no fucking free lunch!


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RE: How much do you tip your waitress? - 6/5/2010 10:07:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		And i have a great relationship with a restaurant in Dublin. They are only too delighted to see me. i have explained my circumstances and they understand completely. To them getting a person who is unemployed to eat occasionally in their restaurant even without a tip is a very great boon
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RE: How much do you tip your waitress? - 6/5/2010 10:07:43 AM   
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I disagree. I know some shitheels that tip well.


A cheap shitheel is more of a shitheel than a generous one..just sayin


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RE: How much do you tip your waitress? - 6/5/2010 10:11:42 AM   
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2003,  that is a good point. People who eat - are not necessarily full of cash.   Some would say dont go out then-- yet then the complain would be no one eats out.


If the wage of the server was reflected in your food cost (meaning the proprietor paid the server the wage that this sort of employment merits) you would be paying 20 to 25% more for your meal dining out. In fact, I lived in a tourist area when i was younger  (Yosemite) and they added 15% on a foreigner's tab because they stiff.

Basically your server is paying taxes on your food. People who whine about taxes and who stiff their servers tend to be cheap assholes who want to get something for nothing.... dude, didn't you learn, there is no fucking free lunch!



I said- I seldom go out to eat-  let the market decide.

I would prefer to prepay tho. Some of these places are partially self serve and they want a tip.

Lets not blame me- for being the market- which in my life- I eat at home- so we all win.
--especially when a glass of soda is $2.99 for watery  sugar syrup.

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RE: How much do you tip your waitress? - 6/5/2010 10:12:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		We are not talking about a free lunch here. i dont want a free lunch.  i just dont see any point or reason why i should be obligated to pay  a tip in addition to the bill.  The bill for me is enough. i am not their employer. if they are paid peanuts , walk out , blacken the name of the industry, start a campaign against the employer, report them to the authorities whatvever, the employer will soon get the message and pay a just wage. Bottom line is joe public should not have to supplement their income. Would you tip an actor after they completed a show? No you pay the fee and nothing more. Would you tip the newsagent? Absolutely not. Whats so different about the restaurant staff? They are doing a job they want to do obviously otherwise they wouldnt be doing that. Joe public are paying for the food and that s it, contract complete in my opinion
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RE: How much do you tip your waitress? - 6/5/2010 10:18:52 AM   
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2003,  that is a good point. People who eat - are not necessarily full of cash.   Some would say dont go out then-- yet then the complain would be no one eats out.


If the wage of the server was reflected in your food cost (meaning the proprietor paid the server the wage that this sort of employment merits) you would be paying 20 to 25% more for your meal dining out. In fact, I lived in a tourist area when i was younger  (Yosemite) and they added 15% on a foreigner's tab because they stiff.

Basically your server is paying taxes on your food. People who whine about taxes and who stiff their servers tend to be cheap assholes who want to get something for nothing.... dude, didn't you learn, there is no fucking free lunch!



I said- I seldom go out to eat-  let the market decide.

I would prefer to prepay tho. Some of these places are partially self serve and they want a tip.

Lets not blame me- for being the market- which in my life- I eat at home- so we all win.
--especially when a glass of soda is $2.99 for watery  sugar syrup.

The market works.   Yay.



How in the world does the server get shit on because your soda sucked? Why would you have them pay 8% on your sugary soda?

As for self serve places, those are called fast food restaurants, and  Hometown Buffet is not generally regarded as a tipping establishment (notice they have no "tip" section on the credit card receipt)...

It sounds like your idea of an evening out is McDonalds, and again, you are not required to tip in these establishments...

In California there are many worthwhile eateries, but you have to be willing to pay for good food quality, no matter where you live.


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RE: How much do you tip your waitress? - 6/5/2010 10:21:41 AM   
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I usually tip 20 percent, rounded up to the nearest dollar.

I've heard that it's preferable to get a tip in cash rather than on a credit card. Can any of the servers on this thread let me know if that's true? Thanks.


It depends on the establishment and how they set up their tip tracking, but generally it is better to tip in cash... Some restaurants just automatically withdraw taxes on 8% of the sales that the server wrote up


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RE: How much do you tip your waitress? - 6/5/2010 10:23:18 AM   
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It sounds like your idea of an evening out is McDonalds, and again, you are not required to tip in these establishments...


Actually in most all restraunts it makes it clear that they automatically add tax on orders over $150.00 or parties of 6 or more.

As I understand it unless stated directly on the menu, tipping is not REQUIRED in any establishment.

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RE: How much do you tip your waitress? - 6/5/2010 10:25:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have heard many people complain about the concept of tipping and I will say the same thing I say everytime....

If you do not like it, perhaps being a member of a wait staff is not your bag...... Get a Different Job, and if you wanna say that there are no other jobs..... BE HAPPY YOU HAVE A JOB!!!

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