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InvisibleBlack -> RE: How much do you tip your waitress? (6/5/2010 11:59:38 AM)
-FR- In general I tip 20+%. I always tip in cash. This can go higher, sometimes extremely higher, if the service is exceptional or the dining experience is especially enjoyable. It takes truly atrocious service for me to tip poorly and odds are I'd be speaking to the manager in that event. My underlying philosophy for many such situations is that the job is hard work, the reward is not commensurate to the amount of effort involved and that anyone willing to go out every day and bust their ass working while dealing with all the difficulties of cranky, bizarre and unpleasant people deserve every bit of reward that can get. Many people who do little more than sit on their ass all day earn massive bonuses on top of their already generous salaries, other people work double shifts at minimum wage and wonder how they're going to get by. If I can drop some extra money on the table and let some hard-working person know I appreciated their efforts I'd be remiss in not doing so. One of the first things to drop off the schedule when money is tight is eating out. I'm a good cook and I can make fabulous and filling meals for very little cash. Eating out is a luxury. If I'm short on money, then I cook for myself. [Edited. Typos.]

heartcream -> RE: How much do you tip your waitress? (6/5/2010 12:08:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery A friend likes to say, "Did you really have a bad day? Or did you have one bad moment and milk it all day?" My friends would not say that sort of passive aggressive thing to me.

LafayetteLady -> RE: How much do you tip your waitress? (6/5/2010 12:19:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomImus quote: ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady You can not be a fan of it all you like Thank you. How thoughtful of you. Why not just add a standard tip to every check? Eliminate the problem entirely. There are some restaurants that do just that. The point is that holding a server accountable for decisions that they have no control over speaks volumes about the person. Typically a person who does that also holds their server accountable for "sub-standard" food as well. More often than not when a server is not overly friendly, or overly cheerful or any of the other nonsense I have seen people on this thread basing the tip on, it typically has more to do with the customer than the server. People who have been in the business for a while know who is going to tip well and who won't. So a cheapskate isn't going to get shitty service, but they aren't going to get more than the basic service...taking the order, checking the table, refilling drinks, making recommendations. Essentially, we aren't going to waste time on known cheapskates kissing their ass when there are other tables that need our attention and appreciate our efforts.

heartcream -> RE: How much do you tip your waitress? (6/5/2010 12:47:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady There are some restaurants that do just that. The point is that holding a server accountable for decisions that they have no control over speaks volumes about the person. Typically a person who does that also holds their server accountable for "sub-standard" food as well. More often than not when a server is not overly friendly, or overly cheerful or any of the other nonsense I have seen people on this thread basing the tip on, it typically has more to do with the customer than the server. People who have been in the business for a while know who is going to tip well and who won't. So a cheapskate isn't going to get shitty service, but they aren't going to get more than the basic service...taking the order, checking the table, refilling drinks, making recommendations. Essentially, we aren't going to waste time on known cheapskates kissing their ass when there are other tables that need our attention and appreciate our efforts. hehehe

PeanutTigerinBox -> RE: How much do you tip your waitress? (6/5/2010 12:58:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania So, boycott restaurants until they pay living wages! But don't penalize your server and make them pay taxes on your food. Cool let's all do that...I am sure the owners of the restaurants would really appreciate it when nobody would bother to come anymore at all [8\|]

heartcream -> RE: How much do you tip your waitress? (6/5/2010 1:05:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeanutTigerinBox quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania So, boycott restaurants until they pay living wages! But don't penalize your server and make them pay taxes on your food. Cool let's all do that...I am sure the owners of the restaurants would really appreciate it when nobody would bother to come anymore at all [8\|] Not going to happen, and you know it. People eat out, people eat out and people eat out.

Icarys -> RE: How much do you tip your waitress? (6/5/2010 1:22:33 PM)
quote: This has become the expected norm for diners, thanks to chains. If you complain enough, you get free food and a free meal on the next visit. At least that was my experience at the last chain i worked at with a name of a day of the week in its name. Sad to say but one of my younger sisters and her now ex-husband used to do something similar..I went out with them once and heard them going back and forth on who was going to complain this time so they could get something free.. I waited till they said something to the waitress and when they were done I embarrassed them by telling the waitress they were lying and trying to get something free. I have never been invited to go out again lol. I'm okay with that :> I'd do it again in a heartbeat...Family member or not, ya better not be sitting within an earshot of me where I can hear what your saying. [:D]

juliaoceania -> RE: How much do you tip your waitress? (6/5/2010 1:38:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeanutTigerinBox quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania So, boycott restaurants until they pay living wages! But don't penalize your server and make them pay taxes on your food. Cool let's all do that...I am sure the owners of the restaurants would really appreciate it when nobody would bother to come anymore at all [8\|] Um... I do not understand this response

zephyroftheNorth -> RE: How much do you tip your waitress? (6/5/2010 1:39:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery A friend likes to say, "Did you really have a bad day? Or did you have one bad moment and milk it all day?" When you are a server things work in a domino effect... One table can literally screw up a large portion of your shift because they get you out of sync and you spend a few hours trying to catch up. It is a hard thing to understand unless you have experienced it. Well it's still your choice as to whether or not you allow one person to screw up your day. No I've never been a server but I have worked with the public for a very long time now (25+ years and counting). IMO holding on to anger caused by one asshole means continuing to allow them to have power over you....your choice of course but I'd rather not let it screw up my day.

PeanutTigerinBox -> RE: How much do you tip your waitress? (6/5/2010 1:40:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heartcream quote: ORIGINAL: PeanutTigerinBox quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania So, boycott restaurants until they pay living wages! But don't penalize your server and make them pay taxes on your food. Cool let's all do that...I am sure the owners of the restaurants would really appreciate it when nobody would bother to come anymore at all [8\|] Not going to happen, and you know it. People eat out, people eat out and people eat out. yep they do...inclusive students, the elderly, single mums and the disabled...nobody ever said that we can choose the customers to work with [:)]

lobodomslavery -> RE: How much do you tip your waitress? (6/5/2010 1:40:35 PM)
i take umbrage at the term cheapskate. Rather than label why not analyse why they are as you term cheapskate, what are the circumstances that have brought this about, don t be so fucking judgmental kevin

calamitysandra -> RE: How much do you tip your waitress? (6/5/2010 1:45:33 PM)
My baseline is 20% rounded up to the next full 5/10 Euro. From there I go up based on service rendered, and on the amount of extra work we might have created for the waiter. I end up with about 25-30% for average service. If the service was bad enough to make me want to go under the 20%, I will be speaking to the manager. This did happen only one time, though. Buffet style places I tip between 3-5 Euro per person, also rounded up to the next full 5er, again, depending upon quality of service possible extra work created by our party

PeanutTigerinBox -> RE: How much do you tip your waitress? (6/5/2010 1:46:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery A friend likes to say, "Did you really have a bad day? Or did you have one bad moment and milk it all day?" When you are a server things work in a domino effect... One table can literally screw up a large portion of your shift because they get you out of sync and you spend a few hours trying to catch up. It is a hard thing to understand unless you have experienced it. Well it's still your choice as to whether or not you allow one person to screw up your day. No I've never been a server but I have worked with the public for a very long time now (25+ years and counting). IMO holding on to anger caused by one asshole means continuing to allow them to have power over you....your choice of course but I'd rather not let it screw up my day. Well said [:)] Now...I never worked as a server for money either (only free of charge at festivities from my different sport clubs when I was younger), however having worked in the past as care staff rushing from house to house half an hour here, an hour there, 45 minutes there, 2 hours there, etc...did still not give me any right to be grumpy to the 2nd or 3rd person just because my 1st or 2nd person had a bad night and was rude to me before them....and guess what, even when they were grumpy at me I still made sure to behave professional and to shrug it off...and that despite it being a pretty low paid job in expensive london and despite no tips available in that job...one thing I certainly learned in those days was where to buy what to make my money last for the month...[8\|]

juliaoceania -> RE: How much do you tip your waitress? (6/5/2010 1:48:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery A friend likes to say, "Did you really have a bad day? Or did you have one bad moment and milk it all day?" When you are a server things work in a domino effect... One table can literally screw up a large portion of your shift because they get you out of sync and you spend a few hours trying to catch up. It is a hard thing to understand unless you have experienced it. Well it's still your choice as to whether or not you allow one person to screw up your day. No I've never been a server but I have worked with the public for a very long time now (25+ years and counting). IMO holding on to anger caused by one asshole means continuing to allow them to have power over you....your choice of course but I'd rather not let it screw up my day. You do not understand my point... Someone is running you (if you have been a server then you know what that term means) and you are REALLY busy, you can get in a situation where you fall behind and cannot get back ahead of your tables. This has nothing to do with "attitude", it has do to with "timing" and not having enough time. This can cause a domino effect... your tips from all of your tables can suffer if you get behind. Now perhaps you have never worked in a busy restaurant that expected servers to be able to handle high volume... I have worked these sorts of places, and it can ruin your day to have a really bad customer from an economic standpoint. If you have never encountered rude, demanding customers who constantly called you over, well that is a bunch of good luck for 25 plus years in the business... I did not have this happen every day, but had it happen more than once.... 10 plus years in the food and beverage industry here

zephyroftheNorth -> RE: How much do you tip your waitress? (6/5/2010 2:01:36 PM)
quote: You do not understand my point... Someone is running you (if you have been a server then you know what that term means) and you are REALLY busy, you can get in a situation where you fall behind and cannot get back ahead of your tables. This has nothing to do with "attitude", it has do to with "timing" and not having enough time. This can cause a domino effect... your tips from all of your tables can suffer if you get behind. Now perhaps you have never worked in a busy restaurant that expected servers to be able to handle high volume... I have worked these sorts of places, and it can ruin your day to have a really bad customer from an economic standpoint. If you have never encountered rude, demanding customers who constantly called you over, well that is a bunch of good luck for 25 plus years in the business... I did not have this happen every day, but had it happen more than once.... 10 plus years in the food and beverage industry here Now I'm confused. 1) I never said I've worked as a server, I said I've been working with the public 2) you were talking about one nasty customer ruining your whole day and now you are talking about being behind in your tables. Nonetheless if you want to discuss this that's fine. I can understand being behind in your work causing stress, been there done that. Again it's a choice as to whether you allow it to get you stressed or not and end up in a bad mood - which also affects tips. I work in a hospital, you wanna see rude "customers" try running a 75+ patient clinic. Inevitably the doctor(s) get behind, which happens but it's the secretary they bitch at. Now I could allow that to screw up my day or I could take a deep breath and let it flow off me. It's a choice. I don't run clinics any more and I don't miss it in the least. Nonetheless I still work for 11 docs all of whom think their letters are more important than the others. I could let it get to me but I don't. AGAIN a choice.

juliaoceania -> RE: How much do you tip your waitress? (6/5/2010 2:07:34 PM)
quote: 2) you were talking about one nasty customer ruining your whole day and now you are talking about being behind in your tables. Nonetheless if you want to discuss this that's fine. I can understand being behind in your work causing stress, been there done that. Again it's a choice as to whether you allow it to get you stressed or not and end up in a bad mood - which also affects tips. As a server my whole entire day revolved around making money. My job was to provide smiley service... and although I never ran out of smiles, I was not always able to provide the kind of service I wanted to, which was often a reflection of being understaffed either because coworkers did not show up or the boss didn't schedule correctly... Since my day was all about making money and this was why I showed up to work in the first place, yes, I would consider falling behind as the result of a rude demanding person as ruining my day,.... I was a single mother when I did that job, and I wasn't there for any other reason than to pay my bills. I was not there for fulfillment or to have a good time... I considered it a boon if I had a pleasant day, but that was not the motive to show up... my job was to give other people a pleasurable dining experience, not to have a pleasurable experience of my own

angelikaJ -> RE: How much do you tip your waitress? (6/5/2010 2:11:08 PM)
I think what she is saying is that one difficult customer can slow everything down, making it difficult to catch up. Customers at other tables have to wait for her, which means their service from her suffers because of it. They have to wait for their drink orders and their food because of the extra time she spends with the difficult customer trying to sort out their various complaints.

dcnovice -> RE: How much do you tip your waitress? (6/5/2010 2:16:08 PM)
quote: Well it's still your choice as to whether or not you allow one person to screw up your day. I know that intellectually, but I still find it hard to put into practice.

zephyroftheNorth -> RE: How much do you tip your waitress? (6/5/2010 2:40:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: 2) you were talking about one nasty customer ruining your whole day and now you are talking about being behind in your tables. Nonetheless if you want to discuss this that's fine. I can understand being behind in your work causing stress, been there done that. Again it's a choice as to whether you allow it to get you stressed or not and end up in a bad mood - which also affects tips. As a server my whole entire day revolved around making money. My job was to provide smiley service... and although I never ran out of smiles, I was not always able to provide the kind of service I wanted to, which was often a reflection of being understaffed either because coworkers did not show up or the boss didn't schedule correctly... Since my day was all about making money and this was why I showed up to work in the first place, yes, I would consider falling behind as the result of a rude demanding person as ruining my day,.... I was a single mother when I did that job, and I wasn't there for any other reason than to pay my bills. I was not there for fulfillment or to have a good time... I considered it a boon if I had a pleasant day, but that was not the motive to show up... my job was to give other people a pleasurable dining experience, not to have a pleasurable experience of my own I understand that, what I don't get is your mindset.....you know what it's not worth it. You think you have the market cornered on stressful jobs, fine.

zephyroftheNorth -> RE: How much do you tip your waitress? (6/5/2010 2:42:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice quote: Well it's still your choice as to whether or not you allow one person to screw up your day. I know that intellectually, but I still find it hard to put into practice. So did I, before ending up on stress leave because I let a nasty boss get to me. I now refuse to let one person ruin my day because that person sure as hell isn't letting it ruin theirs.

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