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SimplyMichael -> RE: Under Consideration...? (6/7/2010 10:44:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyCimarron

For a female sub it means she will be giving a lot of blow jobs.

For a male sub it means the Domme has not finished maxing out your credit card.


I am not worthy...




LadyPact -> RE: Under Consideration...? (6/8/2010 6:19:18 AM)

There are some very good threads on this subject in the past.  If you use the search feature for the General Discussion board.

To add to what Calla said, some of us who use the term do so because we want to see if the situation is going to work for both parties involved.  It isn't just the D considering the sub.  It's also the sub having a trial period where that person has the opportunity to live under the Dominant's authority and see if it is a good fit. 

While I'll admit that some folks use the term just to get what they want out of the sub, I think it's important to mention that not everyone using it is just a dirtbag. 




sunshinemiss -> RE: Under Consideration...? (6/8/2010 6:57:48 AM)

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domiguy -> RE: Under Consideration...? (6/8/2010 7:12:32 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyCimarron

For a female sub it means she will be giving a lot of blow jobs.

For a male sub it means the Domme has not finished maxing out your credit card.


There is hope for you yet....Very nice response. You are no MissAsylum.




LadyCimarron -> RE: Under Consideration...? (6/8/2010 7:22:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

There is hope for you yet....Very nice response. You are no MissAsylum.


That was so nice of you that I am hereby putting you under consideration...........I will expect you to send me a credit card with a 10,000.00 limit. [:D]




divi -> RE: Under Consideration...? (6/8/2010 7:23:06 AM)

means he is seeing if he wants to lease or buy your pussy




domiguy -> RE: Under Consideration...? (6/8/2010 7:40:28 AM)

Great I have been placed under consideration by LadyCimarron. I am so fucking thrilled....What exactly in the hell is a Cimarron? These are things that I have to know if this whole considerationy thingy has any shot of success.

There was a book and two movies called Cimarron. They were rather panned because they were rather racist in their depiction of our red, plains dwelling brothers.

Then there was the Cadillac Cimarron which was a shitty compact caddy built in the eighties that Time voted one of the 50 worst cars ever manufactured.

There is always.....DuPont ™ Cimarron ® Plus herbicide

The Kohler Cimarron toilet?
[image]http://terrylove.com/wc/kohler/cimarron.jpg[/image]


I don't see how this is possibly going to work out.




mnottertail -> RE: Under Consideration...? (6/8/2010 7:42:29 AM)

I'm thinking you are being considered for a toilet slave.

That's what it looks like from this vantage point, at any rate.

LOL




AQuietSimpleMan -> RE: Under Consideration...? (6/8/2010 7:51:35 AM)

Consideration means that I have someone hotter that is still stringing me along, so I need to keep you on the back burner while I try to get some actual pussy from her and if I haven't gotten that ass by February then I'll settle for you but you have no fucking Idea how much shit I'm gunna take out on your ass cause your pussy isn't as nice as hers.

It means I'm gunna Test Drive your Vulva a few times but only offer to lease it after that. Gotta keep open to newer models.

It Means I need you to CALM THE FUCK DOWN and SHUT THE FUCK UP before I am willing to bring you in on a permanent basis.

It Means that until you bring me Hot Asians with Tight Pussies I'm gunna keep stringing you along.

Take you Pick.

QSM




MrRodgers -> RE: Under Consideration...? (6/8/2010 8:02:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyCimarron

For a female sub it means she will be giving a lot of blow jobs.

For a male sub it means the Domme has not finished maxing out your credit card.

That's pretty good LC...accurate.

'Under consideration' to me, is nothing less than a scam.

It is designed to stash subs for the rare booty call. I knew of a guy who had as many as 6 all under consideration. [sic] They want these subs out of circulation, waiting home alone, horny...for that call for dinner and a blowjob. The it's on to the next dinner and a blowjob.

I suggest subs...never go under consideration. Either you are collared or you...are not.




LadyCimarron -> RE: Under Consideration...? (6/8/2010 8:11:42 AM)

[:D]Just for that, I'm taking you off consideration.......hurts, don't it?...........but since I am in such  generous mood I will allow you to still send me your credit card at your earliest convenience.

FYI- Cimarron -     Spanish word meaning "gone back to the wild."  means "feral" or "a domestic animal having returned to a wild state." It can also simply mean wild as well as fugitive.
 
Imagine my strict christian upbringing and the name makes perfect sense.




UniqueRaven -> RE: Under Consideration...? (6/8/2010 8:13:26 AM)

Wow, that was fast.

Domi, did that velcro get caught in your chest hair as she ripped it off your neck? [:D]




LadyNTrainer -> RE: Under Consideration...? (6/8/2010 8:14:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
'Under consideration' to me, is nothing less than a scam.

It is designed to stash subs for the rare booty call. I knew of a guy who had as many as 6 all under consideration. [sic] They want these subs out of circulation, waiting home alone, horny...for that call for dinner and a blowjob. The it's on to the next dinner and a blowjob.

I suggest subs...never go under consideration. Either you are collared or you...are not.


Really?  So you should go from your first meeting over coffee to the next few dates where there's real interest and maybe a spark directly to a collar?  No time for either party to move the intimacy up just a notch and test drive compatibility before collaring?  Would you recommend the same procession for a wedding ring as well?

Oh hell no.  I need more time than that to decide whether I want to move to a commitment stage, and unless they're a big fan of velcro collars, so does my prospective partner.  You can call it going steady, you can call it serious dating, you can call it under consideration, you can call it whatever you want, but it's a necessary period for most people's health and sanity when they're thinking about making a commitment that serious. 

I'm poly, so I am very unlikely to take prospective subbies out of circulation.  Though if things are getting to the mutual serious consideration stage, we will be keeping each other in the loop about who else we're seeing and meeting each other's current partners.  I'm sure there are people who play dysfunctional games in their intimate relationships and manipulate their partners so they can get everything possible out of them for their own selfish benefit while leaving them with their own needs unmet.  I would advise against being in any sort of relationship with someone who behaves like this, whether they call it consideration or collaring.  But if you and your partner are both on the up and up, taking time for mutual consideration before leaping ahead to a commitment just makes good common sense.




divi -> RE: Under Consideration...? (6/8/2010 8:17:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyCimarron

[:D]Just for that, I'm taking you off consideration.......hurts, don't it?...........but since I am in such  generous mood I will allow you to still send me your credit card at your earliest convenience.



TY for doing this LC.  Could you imagine the fashion mess Domi would be him sporting mandals, pink shirt, murse and collar. .




LadyCimarron -> RE: Under Consideration...? (6/8/2010 8:22:30 AM)

If you mean dating and getting to know each other then that is fine, and that is what it should be called. But every sub I have met that has ever been under consideration say they were told they should not be seeking other Doms while under consideration. If you are getting to know each other then both sides should be free to still date and seek others. That is how it is done in vanilla circles as well. Until they both agree that they have some kind of committment or understanding they are both free to do as they choose. But the process of locking down (and using) a sub until a Dom or Domme decides that he or she wants that sub is unfair to submissives and its just plain wrong.




crazyml -> RE: Under Consideration...? (6/8/2010 8:39:09 AM)


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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

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ORIGINAL: peppermint

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Inserted words could be fair, normal, usual, right.

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fucking bullshit could also be inserted words in all of those instances.  or fucking insanity......just sayin....[:D]


hug! Beat me to it.




domiguy -> RE: Under Consideration...? (6/8/2010 8:50:45 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: divi

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyCimarron

[:D]Just for that, I'm taking you off consideration.......hurts, don't it?...........but since I am in such  generous mood I will allow you to still send me your credit card at your earliest convenience.



TY for doing this LC.  Could you imagine the fashion mess Domi would be him sporting mandals, pink shirt, murse and collar. .


Uh oh!!!....She's not sending me her credit card? Piss, fuck, shit!!!.....I have a few items that must be immediately. returned...
[image]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3283/2610833043_b463664054.jpg[/image]
[image]http://www.plazancosmetics.com/image-files/professional-skin-care-line/placolmask.jpg[/image]
[image]http://images.marketplaceadvisor.channeladvisor.com/hi/64/63830/asc45002-2a.jpg[/image]

Fuck you LadyCimarron....I never liked you.





RedMagic1 -> RE: Under Consideration...? (6/8/2010 8:53:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyCimarron
But the process of locking down (and using) a sub until a Dom or Domme decides that he or she wants that sub is unfair to submissives and its just plain wrong.

While I agree with these ethics, I think the overall explanation of consideration misses part of the psychology.

Many subs/slaves are so desperate to be owned, or at least to be off the market, that they publicize they are under consideration -- and stop looking -- if a dom says "maybe."  It's a form of intentional mishearing that leads to drama down the road.




LadyNTrainer -> RE: Under Consideration...? (6/8/2010 8:54:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyCimarron
If you mean dating and getting to know each other then that is fine, and that is what it should be called. But every sub I have met that has ever been under consideration say they were told they should not be seeking other Doms while under consideration. If you are getting to know each other then both sides should be free to still date and seek others. That is how it is done in vanilla circles as well. Until they both agree that they have some kind of committment or understanding they are both free to do as they choose. But the process of locking down (and using) a sub until a Dom or Domme decides that he or she wants that sub is unfair to submissives and its just plain wrong.


Not automatically.  In vanilla circles, what you do between casual dating and marriage is sometimes called "going steady" or "being engaged".  If your end goal is a monogamous relationship, you are very likely to move to exclusivity in this stage.  And that makes sense if this is what you are test driving.

I think that before agreeing to enter this phase of dating, both partners should feel that they are having their day to day needs fully met by this relationship, and that the goal is to test-drive an exclusive relationship with an eye to making a more serious or permanent commitment if it really does work for them.  If one partner is not being honest with the other about their needs or their goals, that's going to be a dealbreaker sooner rather than later.

Unequal poly, where one partner may seek others and one partner may not or does not, is potentially fraught with serious issues.  It can and does work for some couples especially in a D/s context.  It can also explode into a morass of drama, unmet needs, jealousy, etc.  But all forms of poly can do that anyway.  It takes exponentially more work to manage and negotiate so that all partners involved feel that their needs are being met even if what they get from the relationship is not identical to what their partner is getting. 

I would be wary of someone proposing to do unequal poly if they had no experience in managing healthy long term poly relationships.  It's not a real good beginner trick.  It takes a huge amount of work, self-honesty, self-awareness, sensitivity, and damn good listening and communicating skills.  But it can be done, and it can be done in a way that keeps everyone in the relationship healthy and happy.




Jeffff -> RE: Under Consideration...? (6/8/2010 8:55:09 AM)

Keep the ascot

You will look so debonair!




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