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rulemylife -> RE: Obama fucks Vets again. (6/8/2010 9:23:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

He is a dreadful commander and chief.



Ok, I'm listening.

Why?

And please don't recycle any nonsense like in this thread.

Give me clear reasons based on policy issues.




Owner59 -> RE: Obama fucks Vets again. (6/8/2010 9:24:58 AM)

it`s desparation.....[:D]

bush....2 for 8

Obama....1 for 2

do the math




tazzygirl -> RE: Obama fucks Vets again. (6/8/2010 9:25:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Or Bush's failure to commemorate in 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006. 2007 or 2008?/snip

Do you have a link for this?

I thought Bush did commemorate D day.  If not I will admit I am wrong.




Obama commemorations similar to Bush's
Obama delivered speech at Normandy for D-Day 65th anniversary in 2009. President Obama traveled to Normandy for a June 6, 2009 ceremony honoring the 65th anniversary of D-Day. He delivered a speech honoring the troops, saying in part, that victory "came down to the men who landed here - those who now rest in this place for eternity, and those who are with us today. Perhaps more than any other reason, you, the veterans of that landing, are why we still remember what happened on D-Day. You are why we come back."

Bush administration commemorated D-Day in 2001 and 2004, but spent others in meetings and at least one concert. White House archives of June 6 for each year President Bush was in office only show Bush commemorating D-Day in 2001 and 2004. In 2001, Bush dedicated a D-Day memorial in Virginia, and in 2004, he went to Normandy to mark the 60th anniversary of D-Day. There are no "news" references to D-Day in 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, or 2008.

On 2005 D-Day anniversary, Bush hosted a concert celebrating Black Music Month and did not recognize the holiday. While Hoft and Fox criticized Obama for attending a "party" instead of recognizing the anniversary of D-Day, on June 6, 2005, Bush held a concert at the White House celebrating Black Music Month. According to the White House archives, Bush also did not commemorate the D-Day anniversary.

http://mediamatters.org/research/201006070009





pahunkboy -> RE: Obama fucks Vets again. (6/8/2010 9:27:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

He is a dreadful commander and chief.



Ok, I'm listening.

Why?

And please don't recycle any nonsense like in this thread.

Give me clear reasons based on policy issues.



He also never served in the military.  At some point there will be a military coup in the US.  consider the SPLC alarm over the rise of hate groups.   what do they hate?   they hate the central bankers.




DomKen -> RE: Obama fucks Vets again. (6/8/2010 9:31:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Or Bush's failure to commemorate in 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006. 2007 or 2008?/snip

Do you have a link for this?

I thought Bush did commemorate D day.  If not I will admit I am wrong.




Obama commemorations similar to Bush's
Obama delivered speech at Normandy for D-Day 65th anniversary in 2009. President Obama traveled to Normandy for a June 6, 2009 ceremony honoring the 65th anniversary of D-Day. He delivered a speech honoring the troops, saying in part, that victory "came down to the men who landed here - those who now rest in this place for eternity, and those who are with us today. Perhaps more than any other reason, you, the veterans of that landing, are why we still remember what happened on D-Day. You are why we come back."

Bush administration commemorated D-Day in 2001 and 2004, but spent others in meetings and at least one concert. White House archives of June 6 for each year President Bush was in office only show Bush commemorating D-Day in 2001 and 2004. In 2001, Bush dedicated a D-Day memorial in Virginia, and in 2004, he went to Normandy to mark the 60th anniversary of D-Day. There are no "news" references to D-Day in 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, or 2008.

On 2005 D-Day anniversary, Bush hosted a concert celebrating Black Music Month and did not recognize the holiday. While Hoft and Fox criticized Obama for attending a "party" instead of recognizing the anniversary of D-Day, on June 6, 2005, Bush held a concert at the White House celebrating Black Music Month. According to the White House archives, Bush also did not commemorate the D-Day anniversary.

http://mediamatters.org/research/201006070009

This is starting to be sort of funny.

Wait till the righties start spouting some new outrage that Obama is the "first President to ever do" said awful thing and then see how easy it is to find proof that said outrage is actually quite common place and wasn't cause for outrage under previous Presidents. Too slow for a drinking game but it might work as a betting pool.




tazzygirl -> RE: Obama fucks Vets again. (6/8/2010 9:34:03 AM)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_military_service

12 Presidents never served in the military.




LadyCimarron -> RE: Obama fucks Vets again. (6/8/2010 9:34:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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I bet they care a lot more about his fixing the shameful underfunding of the VA while Bush dumped money and lives into Iraq and Afghanistan.

Veterans Salute President Obama on Funding for VA



You are right. As a vet this is what I care about. I have VA healthcare benefits based on an injury I recieved on duty.  I used to have to drive almost 3 hours(and take a day off work) to get to the nearest VA hospital. Additional VA funding allowed for a new VA clinic to open in my own community. I could give a rats ass whether or not he gives speech or PR announcement about D-day veterans day or any other day. Show me the money and I will know how much you care about veterans.




pahunkboy -> RE: Obama fucks Vets again. (6/8/2010 9:45:45 AM)

--and for the 4th of July he will go to England to play polo with Charles.




tazzygirl -> RE: Obama fucks Vets again. (6/8/2010 9:59:04 AM)

Pahunk and subroy

both of you have made accusations against Obama. These accusations were true, except that you attempted to attribute them only to Obama.

I have posted proof that other Presidents have no military experience. Even Lincoln served only 30 days, with no sign of action. Yet he led this country through a bitter Civil War.

I would like you both to address these links that contradict what you were trying to claim.

Pahunk, you stated you would admit you were wrong if proof was given about Bush not commerating D-Day. Did you mean if he did at all or if he missed 75% of those he could have?




thompsonx -> RE: Obama fucks Vets again. (6/8/2010 10:05:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Pahunk and subroy

both of you have made accusations against Obama. These accusations were true, except that you attempted to attribute them only to Obama.

I have posted proof that other Presidents have no military experience. Even Lincoln served only 30 days, with no sign of action.


The reason he only served for such a short period was because he was court marshaled and chucked out.



Yet he led this country through a bitter Civil War.

I would like you both to address these links that contradict what you were trying to claim.

Pahunk, you stated you would admit you were wrong if proof was given about Bush not commerating D-Day. Did you mean if he did at all or if he missed 75% of those he could have?





Termyn8or -> RE: Obama fucks Vets again. (6/8/2010 10:08:32 AM)

FR

I have a book. We bought it for the olman years ago and it has the news headlines excerpted from every year since 1900. It's called Chronicle Of The Twentieth Century. It only goes up to 1986, tempus fugit. It's probably about the size of a New York phone book, but hardcover. In it, going through year by year you can probably find something to commemorate every day of the year.

That would leave no time for work. And remember, the main job of a President seems to be to wreck the economy now, so I'm not saying it's a bad thing. We would be better off really if the last ten Presidents of the US used their hand to jack off rather than to sign things. Just pay them to look good.

T




hlen5 -> RE: Obama fucks Vets again. (6/8/2010 10:10:43 AM)

I'm curious as to how many people are worried about Obama dissing the vets, are actually veterans? And before you ask, yes I am a vet.

As an aside, there is something I'm going to investigate about a statement attributed to Obama. If true, I will agree he's ungrateful to vets.




tazzygirl -> RE: Obama fucks Vets again. (6/8/2010 10:15:32 AM)

hlen, drop me a note on the other side. im curious as to this statement and im willing to lend a hand in investigating it.




pahunkboy -> RE: Obama fucks Vets again. (6/8/2010 10:18:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Pahunk and subroy

both of you have made accusations against Obama. These accusations were true, except that you attempted to attribute them only to Obama.

I have posted proof that other Presidents have no military experience. Even Lincoln served only 30 days, with no sign of action. Yet he led this country through a bitter Civil War.

I would like you both to address these links that contradict what you were trying to claim.

Pahunk, you stated you would admit you were wrong if proof was given about Bush not commerating D-Day. Did you mean if he did at all or if he missed 75% of those he could have?



We are at war.   this is no time for our commander to go gallivanting around horse play.

Bush showed more respect for ceremonies re the troops.

history and tradition show that we revere our war heros.

But today we do not.  no one gives a crap about honor.

we care about wall street corporations and the 1% ruling elite. we care about campaign contributions.

I dont understand why you would stand up for the prez or congress.  They sold us out.   I also abhore the fake left right pardyme.

Our presidents keep getting worse and worse.  No wonder why PA/VT/TX/AK wants to secede.




tazzygirl -> RE: Obama fucks Vets again. (6/8/2010 10:20:56 AM)

quote:

Bush showed more respect for ceremonies re the troops.


He did? Two out of Eight years he did not commemorate D-Day, which is your basis for your objection, at this point, to Obama. Obama is One out of Two. Yet Bush has shown more respect? Please, explain to me how.




hlen5 -> RE: Obama fucks Vets again. (6/8/2010 10:21:43 AM)

Pa, did you notice my question above?




pahunkboy -> RE: Obama fucks Vets again. (6/8/2010 10:25:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: hlen5

I'm curious as to how many people are worried about Obama dissing the vets, are actually veterans? And before you ask, yes I am a vet.

As an aside, there is something I'm going to investigate about a statement attributed to Obama. If true, I will agree he's ungrateful to vets.



I served in Americore.




thompsonx -> RE: Obama fucks Vets again. (6/8/2010 10:26:06 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Pahunk and subroy

both of you have made accusations against Obama. These accusations were true, except that you attempted to attribute them only to Obama.

I have posted proof that other Presidents have no military experience. Even Lincoln served only 30 days, with no sign of action. Yet he led this country through a bitter Civil War.

I would like you both to address these links that contradict what you were trying to claim.

Pahunk, you stated you would admit you were wrong if proof was given about Bush not commerating D-Day. Did you mean if he did at all or if he missed 75% of those he could have?



We are at war.   this is no time for our commander to go gallivanting around horse play.

Bush showed more respect for ceremonies re the troops.

You mean the asshole who was awol for most of his so called military experience?

history and tradition show that we revere our war heros.

Horse shit....history shows us that we chuck them aside as soon as the need for cannon fodder is over.


But today we do not.  no one gives a crap about honor.

Is that why tillman was murdered...honor[8|]

we care about wall street corporations and the 1% ruling elite. we care about campaign contributions.

No arguement there.

I dont understand why you would stand up for the prez or congress.  They sold us out.   I also abhore the fake left right pardyme.

No arguement here either

Our presidents keep getting worse and worse.  No wonder why PA/VT/TX/AK wants to secede.

It took alomst a million body bags to agree that that is not an option.






pahunkboy -> RE: Obama fucks Vets again. (6/8/2010 10:28:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

quote:

Bush showed more respect for ceremonies re the troops.


He did? Two out of Eight years he did not commemorate D-Day, which is your basis for your objection, at this point, to Obama. Obama is One out of Two. Yet Bush has shown more respect? Please, explain to me how.


Bush tried to honor tradition.   I miss him.   He restored dignity to the White House.




hlen5 -> RE: Obama fucks Vets again. (6/8/2010 10:28:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Pahunk and subroy

both of you have made accusations against Obama. These accusations were true, except that you attempted to attribute them only to Obama.

I have posted proof that other Presidents have no military experience. Even Lincoln served only 30 days, with no sign of action.


The reason he only served for such a short period was because he was court marshaled and chucked out.



Yet he led this country through a bitter Civil War.

I would like you both to address these links that contradict what you were trying to claim.

Pahunk, you stated you would admit you were wrong if proof was given about Bush not commerating D-Day. Did you mean if he did at all or if he missed 75% of those he could have?



Thompsonx,  I tried to see any court-martial of Lincon and did not find it. Your source(s), please??




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