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RE: Obama fucks Vets again. - 6/8/2010 10:30:14 AM

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Bush showed more respect for ceremonies re the troops.

He did? Two out of Eight years he did not commemorate D-Day, which is your basis for your objection, at this point, to Obama. Obama is One out of Two. Yet Bush has shown more respect? Please, explain to me how.

Bush tried to honor tradition. I miss him. He restored dignity to the White House.

You have GOT to be kidding! The first year he spent on vacation. After that, he lied repeatedly to the american people about WMD and pulled us into two costly wars that he kept off the budget books for a long time.

Where is the dignity in that?

Where was the dignity of the WH when dealing with Katrina and the mass death toll there?

Your tin hat is a little bit... ok.. alot too tight these days, pahunk. Bush made a laughing stock out of the WH.

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RE: Obama fucks Vets again. - 6/8/2010 10:31:44 AM

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I'm curious as to how many people are worried about Obama dissing the vets, are actually veterans? And before you ask, yes I am a vet.

As an aside, there is something I'm going to investigate about a statement attributed to Obama. If true, I will agree he's ungrateful to vets.

What is the statement and how did you receive it?

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RE: Obama fucks Vets again. - 6/8/2010 10:33:53 AM

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Bush tried to honor tradition. I miss him. He restored dignity to the White House.

We are hated throughout the world. We torture, we have wrecked the economies of many different countries, we betray are own citizens.

What dignity?

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RE: Obama fucks Vets again. - 6/8/2010 10:36:23 AM

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There was an interesting article in the NRA publication a few months ago concerning Lincoln and it told of his short service in the "local militia" and how the first time he called his men to attention they fell down laughing and how the men who served under him were a bunch of rowdy frontiersmen who did not take to discipline. They (the men not lincoln) broke into the supplies one night and stole all the booze and the end result was that lincoln was chucked out of the militia....not a big deal at the time but a funny sidelight on the history of a great leader.
I am a life member of the nra and they send me the "american rifleman" magazine every month. I am pretty sure it was a 2010 issue...I will check my stacks first chance I get and find the issue number and page and post it to you on c-mail.

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RE: Obama fucks Vets again. - 6/8/2010 10:39:26 AM

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

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I'm curious as to how many people are worried about Obama dissing the vets, are actually veterans? And before you ask, yes I am a vet.

As an aside, there is something I'm going to investigate about a statement attributed to Obama. If true, I will agree he's ungrateful to vets.

What is the statement and how did you receive it?

I am just guessing, but I think she means this:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/veteranshealth.asp

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RE: Obama fucks Vets again. - 6/8/2010 10:42:37 AM

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Here is another source basically saying the same thing.

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/would-obama-have-soldiers-pay-for-own-war-injuries/

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RE: Obama fucks Vets again. - 6/8/2010 10:43:26 AM

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Bush tried to honor tradition. I miss him. He restored dignity to the White House.

I nominate this as the single most hilarious posting of the day. Possibly the year to date.

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RE: Obama fucks Vets again. - 6/8/2010 10:44:42 AM

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I would love to hear pa's rationalization for his statement.

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RE: Obama fucks Vets again. - 6/8/2010 10:45:55 AM

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Desmond Tutu is quite a terrorist: he was awarded The Nobel Peace Prize, The Albert Schweitzer Prize for Humanitarianism, The Pacem in Terris Award, The Sydney Peace Prize, The Ghandi Peace Prize and The J. William Fullbright Award for International Understanding among many, many others.
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The Nobel Prize? C'mon. Algore got one. Obama got one. Next year they will be putting them in cracker jacks boxes.

I have lots of problems with Obama, but I agree that this is reaching for reasons to criticise him. He's given us so many more good reasons. And being a vet, frankly, I see any "honor" coming from Obama as hypocricy anyway. He can take his honor and go sop up some oil with it.

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RE: Obama fucks Vets again. - 6/8/2010 10:47:29 AM

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I don't remember where I heard it but Tazzygirl gave me research help (factcheck.org, Wahington Post, Military.com) and put the facts to rest.

Supposedly Obama wanted Vets to take insurance responsibility for their war injuries. Not so.

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RE: Obama fucks Vets again. - 6/8/2010 10:48:33 AM

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Why is it hypocracy?

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RE: Obama fucks Vets again. - 6/8/2010 10:53:25 AM

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Arafat get one of those, as well as:

Shimeon Perez
Yitzhak Rabin
Fredrik DeClerk
Mikhael Gorbachov
The Dalai Lama
The UN (several times)
Martin Luther King
Linus Pauling
The Quakers

Sorta like gettin a DUI I suppose, lotsa folks get them.

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RE: Obama fucks Vets again. - 6/8/2010 10:53:48 AM

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I'm glad the quote I heard was fact-checked and actually satire (and I didn't post it as fact before I checked it out)!!

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RE: Obama fucks Vets again. - 6/8/2010 10:56:35 AM

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It was partially true, though. It was under consideration by Obama. I like his style of checking out the facts before rushing in. His Harvard Law Review days are definitely a bonus in how he deals with the complexities of managing the govenrment.

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RE: Obama fucks Vets again. - 6/8/2010 10:57:18 AM

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

There was an interesting article in the NRA publication a few months ago concerning Lincoln and it told of his short service in the "local militia" and how the first time he called his men to attention they fell down laughing and how the men who served under him were a bunch of rowdy frontiersmen who did not take to discipline. They (the men not lincoln) broke into the supplies one night and stole all the booze and the end result was that lincoln was chucked out of the militia....not a big deal at the time but a funny sidelight on the history of a great leader.
I am a life member of the nra and they send me the "american rifleman" magazine every month. I am pretty sure it was a 2010 issue...I will check my stacks first chance I get and find the issue number and page and post it to you on c-mail.

I think your first statement was a little loose with the facts, then.

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RE: Obama fucks Vets again. - 6/8/2010 11:02:04 AM

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Ron,
I could very well be wrong, but it seems like not very many people get that one plus the others I posted... and certainly not many "terrorists".

edit: clarity

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RE: Obama fucks Vets again. - 6/8/2010 11:05:48 AM

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Or republicans!

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RE: Obama fucks Vets again. - 6/8/2010 11:17:37 AM

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As a Combat Veteran of Viet-Nam, it did not bother me that President Obama didn't fly to France to speak at the D-Day ceremonies this year. He has enough to do right here at home.

After all why should I be offended at him, when I wasn't offended when his predecessor, George Bush II, didn't go to any U.S. Veteran's cemetery on any of the 8 Memorial Days during his years as President?

However - I was offended that his draft-dodging, Chickenhawk Vice president, Dick Cheney, dishonored all our American veterans by showing his face at the Memorial Day ceremonies at Arlington during the last year of the Bush II administration. Cheney's mere presence among the graves of America's honored dead veterans shows his disrespect for them. Surely, Cheney "had better things to do" that day (his excuse of why he dodged the draft during Viet-Nam was "I had better things to do").

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RE: Obama fucks Vets again. - 6/8/2010 11:19:08 AM

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As a Combat Veteran of Viet-Nam, it did not bother me that President Obama didn't fly to France to speak at the D-Day ceremonies this year. He has enough to do right here at home.

After all why should I be offended at him, when I wasn't offended when his predecessor, George Bush II, didn't go to any U.S. Veteran's cemetery on any of the 8 Memorial Days during his years as President?

However - I was offended that his draft-dodging, Chickenhawk Vice president, Dick Cheney, dishonored all our American veterans by showing his face at the Memorial Day ceremonies at Arlington during the last year of the Bush II administration. Cheney's mere presence among the graves of America's honored dead veterans shows his disrespect for them. Surely, Cheney "had better things to do" that day (his excuse of why he dodged the draft during Viet-Nam was "I had better things to do").

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RE: Obama fucks Vets again. - 6/8/2010 11:22:35 AM

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There was an interesting article in the NRA publication a few months ago concerning Lincoln and it told of his short service in the "local militia" and how the first time he called his men to attention they fell down laughing and how the men who served under him were a bunch of rowdy frontiersmen who did not take to discipline. They (the men not lincoln) broke into the supplies one night and stole all the booze and the end result was that lincoln was chucked out of the militia....not a big deal at the time but a funny sidelight on the history of a great leader.
I am a life member of the nra and they send me the "american rifleman" magazine every month. I am pretty sure it was a 2010 issue...I will check my stacks first chance I get and find the issue number and page and post it to you on c-mail.

I think your first statement was a little loose with the facts, then.

No the facts are that he was court martialed and thrown out of the militia.
A court martial is just a judicial proceeding (a military trial as opposed to a civilian trial.) He was suppose to be in charge of these fellows and was unable to control them so he got chucked out.

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