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Evanesce -> RE: How to deal with idiots.....is there a patience course? (4/11/2006 8:16:34 PM)

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If a sub wants a 6 foot tall Dom, so be it. It does not offend me. I then would know that exploring some thing with her would not go, being I am 4 inches lower than that... lol.


Don't be so sure about that.  I was looking for 6'4" and 250 lb and said so right up front.  I got 5"10" and 185.  The man just took over my mind... couldn't help myself!




SirKenin -> RE: How to deal with idiots.....is there a patience course? (4/11/2006 8:42:42 PM)

Did anybody stop to wonder why this Dom wrote this email?  No.  Not one of you.  You immediately took her word for it and condemned this individual.  We have no way of knowing the other side of the story and I GUARANTEE YOU there is another side.  We have no way of knowing what provoked this comment, yet here you guys are ready to hang him.  I am not saying he is justified in what he is saying by any means.  But how do we know she did not provoke him, making her just as guilty as he is.  People do not just randomly pick off profiles where there are no age requirements posted and then bash them about their age requirement needs.  There is a whole piece to this missing and nobody here bothered to figure out what it was.

Not only does it come off looking silly, it comes off looking ill-informed.




FangsNfeet -> RE: How to deal with idiots.....is there a patience course? (4/11/2006 9:25:03 PM)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0070078386/102-6305485-5382536?v=glance&n=283155

The book known as "Dealing with people you can't stand" is one of the most interesting books I've read in how to handle idiots in everyday conversation via workforce, family, friendships, or bumping into strangers. It's given me great prespective in how to take over and handle situations when I'm invovled with someone who is crossing the line.




Scarlettred78 -> RE: How to deal with idiots.....is there a patience course? (4/12/2006 5:18:55 AM)

I can totally relate to what your going thru on here, I get insulting  e-mails all the time. But the way I look at it is ....I posted a public profile on the Internet, So being an adult I have to accept responsibility for my actions, some of us are better at that then others lol. But not only am I going to attract idiots, but I am also going to attract great people. So I try to appreciate the real friends and relationships I have developed a long the way. It to me is no different then going to a vanilla night club on a Saturday night, your  gonna get hit on by everyone, Just because I am wearing a ring, or not wearing a ring, with my Master or by myself, dressed up or dressed down, it really doesn't matter morons are a fact of life!(male and female)  So I can take down my profile if it truly offends me, cause I doubt they are going anywhere? which to me makes about as much sense as staying home on Saturday nights  and never going out, and be a hermit? or just ignore them and even in some cases feel sorry for them that they are sooooo pathetic. Believe me I was just going thru a spat where I was gonna take down my profile all together, and I really got some awesome encouragement on this site[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m27.gif[/image] Scarlettred




justmeagain69 -> RE: How to deal with idiots.....is there a patience course? (4/12/2006 5:56:12 AM)

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Did anybody stop to wonder why this Dom wrote this email?  No.  Not one of you.  You immediately took her word for it and condemned this individual.  We have no way of knowing the other side of the story and I GUARANTEE YOU there is another side.  We have no way of knowing what provoked this comment, yet here you guys are ready to hang him.  I am not saying he is justified in what he is saying by any means.  But how do we know she did not provoke him, making her just as guilty as he is.  People do not just randomly pick off profiles where there are no age requirements posted and then bash them about their age requirement needs.  There is a whole piece to this missing and nobody here bothered to figure out what it was.

Not only does it come off looking silly, it comes off looking ill-informed.


*cough* Bullshit *cough*  Sorry - you gave me no respect or benefit of doubt, so you will get none from me in return.

I was merely stunned by such a rude and completely pathetic message from someone I had never heard of before.  A FIRST MESSAGE FROM SOMEONE I HAVE NEVER SPOKEN TO BEFORE OR HEARD FROM.  (as I said in my original message and apparently you think is a big lie)

And the fact is ..you and someone asked or mentioned I should be specific in my desires and age requirements.  I am and have been - it is in my journal entry.  My only journal entry.

The reason, near as I can understand, for my getting that message, is that I have in my Journal entries that I am not interested in men over 50.  My reasoning is my own and rather then explain it I will just say the man in question was 53 based on his profile info, and apparently upset that I asked that someone interested in being my daddy be under 50 because I didnt really want him to BE my daddy.

Ah well.  Just goes to show there is always someone willing to think the worst about you or just about call you a liar even if they dont know you from Adam.





Fawne -> RE: How to deal with idiots.....is there a patience course? (4/12/2006 6:14:20 AM)

As Evanese said: "Don't be so sure about that.  I was looking for 6'4" and 250 lb and said so right up front.  I got 5"10" and 185.  The man just took over my mind... couldn't help myself!" 

See? Good surprises happen too! 
Especially with an open mind.
How would you feel if a dominant you were interested in said "no one over 35.." and you just turned 36? What if the man was 51 and fit and more fun and active than some 35 year olds?

Sure, we have every right to make decisions. I  personally find a little flexibilty is gentler and more productive than absolutes. 

Best of luck, fawne




PrinceSitri -> RE: How to deal with idiots.....is there a patience course? (4/12/2006 6:57:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

Did anybody stop to wonder why this Dom wrote this email?  No.  Not one of you.  You immediately took her word for it and condemned this individual.  We have no way of knowing the other side of the story and I GUARANTEE YOU there is another side.  We have no way of knowing what provoked this comment, yet here you guys are ready to hang him.  I am not saying he is justified in what he is saying by any means.  But how do we know she did not provoke him, making her just as guilty as he is.  People do not just randomly pick off profiles where there are no age requirements posted and then bash them about their age requirement needs.  There is a whole piece to this missing and nobody here bothered to figure out what it was.

Not only does it come off looking silly, it comes off looking ill-informed.

The missing piece - I think - has to do with him and his frustrations. After spending what I would guess is a long time searching for his ideal mate he finds someone who sounds just perfect except - SOD it! - he's too old!. At that point he snaps and - his self-control sapped by alcohol (or maybe he simply doesn't have much self-control) - he fires off a bad-tempered email. After cooling down (or sobering up) a little he feels ashamed and blocks her so that she can't respond and make him feel even more ashamed than he already is. His actions weren't nice but they were human and understandable.




justmeagain69 -> RE: How to deal with idiots.....is there a patience course? (4/12/2006 6:57:45 AM)

*nods to fawne*  I merely placed the information as a guideline and after thought to my profile, as I know what I find attractive and value others time here as much as my own and have no desire to be the reason anyone wastes any.  What I guess I didnt get, and most probably never will, is why people seem to feel the need to reach out and bash someone for doing nothing more then being honest in what they would ideally like to find. 




caitlyn -> RE: How to deal with idiots.....is there a patience course? (4/12/2006 8:36:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SirKenin
Did anybody stop to wonder why this Dom wrote this email?  No.  Not one of you.  You immediately took her word for it and condemned this individual.


Not one of us?
 
I see quite a few very neutral comments, and quite a few that condemned nobody. Your post is both accusatory, and inaccurate ... but then again, I rather think you knew that when you posted, now didn't you? [;)]




ExistentialSteel -> RE: How to deal with idiots.....is there a patience course? (4/12/2006 8:46:47 AM)

All you have to do when you are dealing with assholes is to use the line Patrick Swayze said in RoadHouse.
"Opinions vary."




justmeagain69 -> RE: How to deal with idiots.....is there a patience course? (4/12/2006 9:46:58 AM)

Is that like the ole Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and most of them stink? --- I didnt see Roadhouse or if and when I did I was too busy staring at Sam Elliot *yummy*





akisha -> RE: How to deal with idiots.....is there a patience course? (4/12/2006 11:10:22 AM)

justme,

trust me you'll get all kinds of messages. lol i've had some doozies. pretty much just delete them and move not. not worth the effort or time to get upset or irritated. Messaging back usually just starts a flame war. a friend of mine just had something similar happen. After talking to Someone on msn for a week or so she decided that they didn't meld well so said so. Suddenly someone started mass messaging Dom's with her msn addy. she had to quit using that adress and had to report it twice in a week.
Easier and less irritating to just ignore it and move on.

There are alot of really great nice ppl on here that are worth taking the time to get to know.
Good luck in your search *huggs*




zebra -> RE: How to deal with idiots.....is there a patience course? (4/12/2006 11:16:08 AM)

I got one yesterday, from absolutely out of nowhere, that began "You don't belong here." It went on to say that I'm too specific in what I write about my wants and am therefore not a submissive. Fortunately, though I've gotten some of those, they don't come often. I wonder that anyone takes time to do things like that, given how hard it is to connect with anyone in a positive way.




sultryvoice -> RE: How to deal with idiots.....is there a patience course? (4/12/2006 1:27:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

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ORIGINAL: justmeagain69
I can appreciate that as a sub I have less of a "right" to be specific in my desire,

Bex



<<<Walks over to the girl, picks her up and places her on chair facing white board and writes in large letters:>>>

”You have the same right as every CM member to be specific in your desire!  No more! No Less!"

Now young lady you copy that to a large sheet of card and place it above your computer so you can see it every time some arse-hole tries to tell you different..
.


We all have a right to want we want and what will makes us happy. Why shouls we settle for someone? I won't do it. I meesed up in relationships before and I am determined to not do so again. 

As for the rude emails. I already had a thread on that. Welcome to the club. Apparently, there are several older threads on this very subject. It goes back to what most have stated, there are uncouth people everywhere and especially on here. I now block them. If they want to change their name and do it again, I will block them and/or report them. It's that simple.

Respectfully,
sultry




obis -> RE: How to deal with idiots.....is there a patience course? (4/12/2006 7:19:11 PM)

There are a lot of folks who think they can just wear down a person's resistance by being persistent or belligerent. Unfortunately, every now and then they succeed, which only encourages them to use the same lousy technique the other 99% of the time [8|]




Alpha135 -> RE: How to deal with idiots.....is there a patience course? (4/12/2006 8:28:38 PM)

hello justmeagain 

    I do not believe you  ranted  and I appreciate your feelings.  The fact that that fool is a poser is very evident in the lack of knowledge in Lifestyle that was shown.  The person you wish to submit yourself to is your business and your choice,  submission is an earned trust and choice that you bestow on correct Owner/Master-Mistress/Sir-Madam  not taken from you just because someone wishes it.   As her mentor and friend I showed a learning submissive how to handle that with a colorful yet respectful line of  "this one is looking for a Master (Daddy) not a wannabe,  if you learn to be a Master you may discover the honor of earning a submissive's respect" .  Needless to say,  she had a very expansive iggy list  hehehehe .   But now has found Dom that is worthy of her and they have been married for 2 years now.  

take care

Love and Peace Always
Boomer




TemptingNviceSub -> RE: How to deal with idiots.....is there a patience course? (4/12/2006 8:36:43 PM)

LOL..of course now if she is a parent then,she has passed that course with flying colors..and probably can venture forth to impart the patience thus painfully learned...be well..Tempting




Alpha135 -> RE: How to deal with idiots.....is there a patience course? (4/12/2006 8:38:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

Did anybody stop to wonder why this Dom wrote this email?  No.  Not one of you.  You immediately took her word for it and condemned this individual.  We have no way of knowing the other side of the story and I GUARANTEE YOU there is another side.  We have no way of knowing what provoked this comment, yet here you guys are ready to hang him.  I am not saying he is justified in what he is saying by any means.  But how do we know she did not provoke him, making her just as guilty as he is.  People do not just randomly pick off profiles where there are no age requirements posted and then bash them about their age requirement needs.  There is a whole piece to this missing and nobody here bothered to figure out what it was.

Not only does it come off looking silly, it comes off looking ill-informed.


Perhaps the reason the domwannabe wrote it is just sheer laziness in not reading what was limits or possibly not having the knowledge that to earn a submissive's respect is a large part of D/s Lifestyle or maybe it is just delusion that he was after.    there are many reasons that he would send that e-mail yes   but they all go to one main theme he is not worthy and also not of Lifestyle so yes a wannabe

take care

Love and Peace Always

Boomer




Saratov -> RE: How to deal with idiots.....is there a patience course? (4/13/2006 9:33:22 AM)

Hmm, I don't blame you, though I might not mind being your "Daddy" if talking about a LTR I wouldn't want a sub/lil girl your age.  For me, 10yrs is streaching it, any  more...  No, thanks.
Just my nickle(inflation ya know)




justmeagain69 -> RE: How to deal with idiots.....is there a patience course? (4/13/2006 10:03:39 AM)

Thanks to all for your supportive words and comments.  It always helps to know your not alone in your thoughts or experiences.




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