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Musicmystery -> RE: Acceptance/Resistance Among The Believers and The Non-Believers (6/10/2010 2:01:21 PM)

Gotta hand it to the Mormons--last time they were here, I was busy working outside and didn't really have time to stop and talk----

So they offered to pitch in and help! Mowing grass, painting, they were ready to roll up their sleeves and lend a hand.




rulemylife -> RE: Acceptance/Resistance Among The Believers and The Non-Believers (6/10/2010 2:06:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MissAsylum

~FR~

rulemylife: HypnoPants pointed out what i have thought the entire time you have posted: you didn't bother to read my OP. How do I know this? The TITLE is "Acceptance/Resistance Among The Believers and The Non-Believers"- the post doesn't ask for or need for the discussion of there being a high power. Its asking for what group of people (the non-believers or the believers) have given you more acceptance or more resistance. THAT IS IT. And by the way- there is the lovely little quote from my OP:
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I'm collecting information to do a study for my paper on Science vs Religion. PLEASE TAKE NOTE: I am NOT asking for you to try to prove or disprove any exsistance or lack there of God/ higher being, or to share your theories of why religion needs to be destroyed/celebrated, or other things of that nature. There are other threads for that discussion. So PLEASE try to stay on topic.


for future reference- i strongly suggest that you read the OP and respond to it as such.



For future reference, I don't respond on threads I have not read completely.

For future reference, you are trying to isolate a discussion about believing by limiting it to the reactions of the believers and non-believers without addressing why they believe or do not.

Which is what their reactions are based on.

For future reference, when I have already said I would bow out of the discussion it becomes redundant to keep bringing up the points we obviously disagree on.




MissAsylum -> RE: Acceptance/Resistance Among The Believers and The Non-Believers (6/10/2010 3:32:29 PM)

you asked to explain- and i did. for furture reference- i was being polite in pointing out that you didn't show that you had read my original post. its my right to post a thread that asks for something specific for a paper and it is something serious, while it is your right to post something that wasn't asked for and only relates to the topic in a trivial manner. However as a result, it is also my right to point out your actions do not relate to the topic, regardless of my attempts to keep everybody on topic. There really is no reason for you to get pissy with me over something that you did. It very obvious that we aren't going to agree on something as simple as stay on topic. And honestly, I'm just fine with me. You have a blessed life dear.




rulemylife -> RE: Acceptance/Resistance Among The Believers and The Non-Believers (6/10/2010 4:04:58 PM)

Welllllllll................like I have said repeatedly, I will bow out of the discussion but you keep on drawing me back in.  [sm=biggrin.gif]

And for the record I still do not see how the belief in a God relates to the topic in only a trivial manner considering the topic.

But carry on.

May God be with you and shout out a few hosannahs for me.






mcbride -> RE: Acceptance/Resistance Among The Believers and The Non-Believers (6/10/2010 7:38:11 PM)

With apologies to the spectacular Vendaval, I find, MissAsylum, that if I take the first use of the word 'religious' out of the quote below, it's a startlingly good match for what I've found.

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

IME, the hard-core religious zealots are the ones most resistant to differing views. People with moderate religious beliefs, agnostics and atheists are usually more give and take. It seems a matter of degree and how inflexible their own belief system is that determines their open-mindedness.



There are people with inflexible beliefs at both ends of the spectrum. Some cloak their personal obsessions in the mantle of science, some in God, which obviously does no credit to God or science.

In terms of who presents "more resistance", to answer your question, I don't see a difference, because they're the same people.  The only thing that's changed is that non-belief is on the upswing in North America and some other places, so a larger percentage of that pool reflects trend, but while those zealots are vocal, on both sides, it remains a small minority of atheists and people of faith.

Interesting topic, though, in terms of how different socialization in each group might affect how those individuals justify the degree and tone of their proselytizing. 30 pages, easy. *s*




GotSteel -> RE: Acceptance/Resistance Among The Believers and The Non-Believers (6/10/2010 8:21:15 PM)

I hear it's REALLY rough trying to be an African American Atheist.




mcbride -> RE: Acceptance/Resistance Among The Believers and The Non-Believers (6/10/2010 8:37:36 PM)

Case in point...




MissAsylum -> RE: Acceptance/Resistance Among The Believers and The Non-Believers (6/10/2010 8:44:42 PM)

eh...i'd rather not find out for myself.




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