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Why does everyone care so much if SN works out what's in his head on the boards? He's talking about abstract concepts, not asking for help finding a girl.

You know, there were times in my life when I was proactively avoiding being in a relationship because I had a lot to work out in my head, about my last breakup or about my situation in life etc. For the record I'm married now, so I'm not some total relationship tard, but sometimes a person really doesn't want to go out and look for a partner until they feel confident in what they are looking for and what they have to offer.

I don't get the vitriol here at all, the whole "gtfo and get laid" thing, he's a young man. There's practically a whole genre of literature called "Young man overanalyzes girls and relationships" and nobody's forcing anyone to read.

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ORIGINAL: SocratesNot

Slaves, in which way you prefer to be treated, something like Type A, or Type B?

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I treat her the way I want to and she has two choices-she can obey, or she can leave.

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247
SocratesNot...what you don't seem to understand is that most people who seek out a life of slavery have no interest in "negotiation." 

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ORIGINAL: SocratesNot

There are two types of treatment of slaves and both of these types are in slave's best interest:

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Slaves, in which way you prefer to be treated, something like Type A, or Type B?

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ORIGINAL: leadership527

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247
SocratesNot...what you don't seem to understand is that most people who seek out a life of slavery have no interest in "negotiation." 

*chuckles* Carol loves to negotiate. Sometimes I even listen to her. Then again, for Carol this has never really been about being a slave or being obedient.

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Of course I keep her well being in mind. I would do the same if I owned a Ferrari or a Rembrandt or any other rare and valuable thing.
But sure, there are times when I use her strictly for my benefit. Hell, that happens often. A slave is/can be many things. She can be a sex toy, a service slut, a house cleaner, a pet, a best friend, a confidant-but in all ways she is to serve-that's her freaking purpose. And if that means making some sacrifices...well, tough. Nobody said slavery was easy and nobody said it was all butterflies and roses.

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I would do the same if I owned a Ferrari or a Rembrandt or any other rare and valuable thing.

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ORIGINAL: leadership527

*chuckles* Carol loves to negotiate. Sometimes I even listen to her. Then again, for Carol this has never really been about being a slave or being obedient.

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ORIGINAL: Kana

A slave is/can be many things. She can be a sex toy, a service slut, a house cleaner, a pet, a best friend, a confidant-but in all ways she is to serve-that's her freaking purpose.

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

*smiles*...and if i recall, Carol is not one of those who actually sought out a life of slavery. i did, in part because the very idea of having to negotiate, or plan, or choose sends me flying into a panic attack, lol.

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ORIGINAL: Kana

Of course I keep her well being in mind. I would do the same if I owned a Ferrari or a Rembrandt or any other rare and valuable thing.
But sure, there are times when I use her strictly for my benefit. Hell, that happens often. A slave is/can be many things. She can be a sex toy, a service slut, a house cleaner, a pet, a best friend, a confidant-but in all ways she is to serve-that's her freaking purpose. And if that means making some sacrifices...well, tough. Nobody said slavery was easy and nobody said it was all butterflies and roses.

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ORIGINAL: SocratesNot

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Of course I keep her well being in mind. I would do the same if I owned a Ferrari or a Rembrandt or any other rare and valuable thing.
But sure, there are times when I use her strictly for my benefit. Hell, that happens often. A slave is/can be many things. She can be a sex toy, a service slut, a house cleaner, a pet, a best friend, a confidant-but in all ways she is to serve-that's her freaking purpose. And if that means making some sacrifices...well, tough. Nobody said slavery was easy and nobody said it was all butterflies and roses.

That's why I don't like it. I wouldn't treat her like a slave whose only purpose is to serve.
As a dominant I would try to behave as a loving ruler who always has her best interest in mind. If in her best interest is to be punished I would punish her.
If in her best interest is to be treated very bad during some time, I would do it, but only if this was in her best interest.
Using her just for my own benefit, especially if this happens often would cause in me feelings of guilt.
I hate exploiting people as much as I hate being exploited.

In my life I several times took advantage of some people, and I ALWAYS felt bad about it.
The same way I felt bad when they took advantage of me.

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I can make a strong argument that by being in her life, by being who I am, I am the one doing her a favor and she should be the one who is goddamn grateful every moment of the day that I am in her life and not the other way around.

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Yeah but once again you make many mistakes, mostly based on the fact that you intellectually explore TTTWD, but don't do it.
-I don't exploit her.
-I don't take advantage of her.
-Ask her and she will tell you I am far and away the best man she's ever known.

You miss the basic fact that she WANTS to be a slave, that she gets pleasure and joy out of it. She has zero desire to be in an even relationship. Does she like all that I do to her? No. But she absolutely adores the total surrender, the ceding of control, the fact that I reach inside and pull from her things she wouldn't dream of on her own volition. She is a slave because that is where she finds her comfort, her security, her purpose.
Now there may be some wingnuts out there, but the girls who last in my life have their heads on straight. They trust me because I have demonstrated myself as being worthy of trust. I know what they want and like, they know what I want and like. There are no illusions walking in and there are no chains keeping them against their will (In America, those picky legal people call that a felony)-they are there of their own volition, because they want to be with me. Hell, they beg, grovel, plead, lick boots, toes and ass to stay.

Look at it this way, Spanky. These are the facts. There are women out there who need to submit. There are a lot of guys out there who are willing to "dominate" said women. Some of those men know what they are about, many are players, frauds, fetishists etc...There are also those who are damned abusive and a few that are outright dangerous. I know who and what I am and have been doing TTTWD for a long time. I do it well. I can make a strong argument that by being in her life, by being who I am, I am the one doing her a favor and she should be the one who is goddamn grateful every moment of the day that I am in her life and not the other way around.
~Grins~
Matter of fact, that's pretty much how I feel...and she agrees. Course, I think much the same of her-good slaves are tough to find.
(Bet at least one broad out there just got wet reading that too.)


P.S.:-It's ironic that you use the loving ruler analogy-if pinned down, I would say I run a benevolent dictatorship.

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...You miss the basic fact that she WANTS to be a slave, that she gets pleasure and joy out of it. She has zero desire to be in an even relationship. Does she like all that I do to her? No. But she absolutely adores the total surrender, the ceding of control, the fact that I reach inside and pull from her things she wouldn't dream of on her own volition. She is a slave because that is where she finds her comfort, her security, her purpose...