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"FORCED" bi - 6/10/2010 9:01:01 AM   
DommeKeliDallas


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Status: offline 		This term just makes me insane!
There is NO SUCH THING as "forced bi."
You are gay or you are NOT gay.
"Oh Mistress. Make me suck a guy off...FOR YOU."

STRAIGHT MEN DON'T SUCK DICK!

ALL of the STRAIGHT men I know would never suck another man.

GAY men do.

Just accept you are GAY and move on with it.

Gay is OK.
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RE: "FORCED" bi - 6/10/2010 9:16:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		"gay is okay," and it is true that one's sexuality cannot be forced. however one's actions and what one is subjected to, absolutely can. a straight man or woman can be forced to have sex with someone of the same sex...that does not make them bisexual, it makes them a rape victim.

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RE: "FORCED" bi - 6/10/2010 9:19:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		You seem to have missed a whole segment of the population - the Bisexual.

The Bi-Curious, The Situationally Bisexual, and the Bisexual are all over this lifestyle and you are trying to take away their umbrella.  There is nothing the spectrum of bisexual people hate more than getting wet!

Wait...maybe they like getting wet...and all drippy and such...oh dear...life is not all black and white! 


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RE: "FORCED" bi - 6/10/2010 9:22:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

"gay is okay," and it is true that one's sexuality cannot be forced. however one's actions and what one is subjected to, absolutely can. a straight man or woman can be forced to have sex with someone of the same sex...that does not make them bisexual, it makes them a rape victim.


Yes, but she is talking about men who ask to be "forced" to suck cock. It's not the same thing as when your master comes up with his own ideas.

Gotta agree with Otter too.

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RE: "FORCED" bi - 6/10/2010 9:25:00 AM   
AlexandraLynch


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Status: offline 		To me the term "forced bi" is useful in that it tells me the person wants a certain sort of game along with the sexual experience. I would never and will never coerce or force someone to have sex against their will. However, if the basic consent is there and we've explicitly discussed that, then we can play the game. 

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RE: "FORCED" bi - 6/10/2010 9:28:55 AM   
daddysprop247


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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx


quote:

ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

"gay is okay," and it is true that one's sexuality cannot be forced. however one's actions and what one is subjected to, absolutely can. a straight man or woman can be forced to have sex with someone of the same sex...that does not make them bisexual, it makes them a rape victim.


Yes, but she is talking about men who ask to be "forced" to suck cock. It's not the same thing as when your master comes up with his own ideas.

Gotta agree with Otter too.


oh i understood what she was actually trying to express, but she did a poor job of doing so. i can be really anal about language...can't help it. *blush*

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RE: "FORCED" bi - 6/10/2010 9:32:19 AM   
LadyNTrainer


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ORIGINAL: DommeKeliDallas
Gay is OK.


Gay is OK, and so is bisexual, and so is heteroflexible.  Why do you think that you have to be either gay or straight?  Gender and sexual preference is hardly a simple binary. 


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RE: "FORCED" bi - 6/10/2010 9:32:35 AM   
DommeKeliDallas


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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

"gay is okay," and it is true that one's sexuality cannot be forced. however one's actions and what one is subjected to, absolutely can. a straight man or woman can be forced to have sex with someone of the same sex...that does not make them bisexual, it makes them a rape victim.

This is COLLAR ME.
I am not talking about a FELONY...sheesh!

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RE: "FORCED" bi - 6/10/2010 9:35:26 AM   
DommeKeliDallas


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ORIGINAL: OttersSwim

You seem to have missed a whole segment of the population - the Bisexual.

The Bi-Curious, The Situationally Bisexual, and the Bisexual are all over this lifestyle and you are trying to take away their umbrella.  There is nothing the spectrum of bisexual people hate more than getting wet!

Wait...maybe they like getting wet...and all drippy and such...oh dear...life is not all black and white! 


I haven't missed anything.
If you are "bi" another term I have a problem with...that mean that you are HALF GAY and would suck dick anyway.
There is nothing "FORCED" if you like it anyway.

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RE: "FORCED" bi - 6/10/2010 9:44:56 AM   
OttersSwim


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ORIGINAL: DommeKeliDallas

quote:

ORIGINAL: OttersSwim

You seem to have missed a whole segment of the population - the Bisexual.

The Bi-Curious, The Situationally Bisexual, and the Bisexual are all over this lifestyle and you are trying to take away their umbrella.  There is nothing the spectrum of bisexual people hate more than getting wet!

Wait...maybe they like getting wet...and all drippy and such...oh dear...life is not all black and white! 


I haven't missed anything.
If you are "bi" another term I have a problem with...that mean that you are HALF GAY and would suck dick anyway.
There is nothing "FORCED" if you like it anyway.


Wow...I'll alert the media...


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RE: "FORCED" bi - 6/10/2010 9:53:23 AM   
igor2003


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Status: offline 		The term "forced bi" is simply that...a term. In the context of consensual BDSM a "slave" who agrees to be a slave isn't really a slave since they can leave any time they want. But in that context the term "slave" again is simply that...another term. In role playing if you are doing "The Cowboy and the Indian Maiden" the chances are that there is neither a cowboy nor an Indian maiden involved. Again, it is simply a term. The same with "The Interigator and the Spy." And in play rape is it really rape? No. Again it is just a term that describes the type of scene. Why is it that so many people want to complain about the term "forced bi" but don't have any problem with all the other "terms" involved that are there simply to describe the type of scene or action?


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RE: "FORCED" bi - 6/10/2010 10:00:03 AM   
DommeKeliDallas


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ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer

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ORIGINAL: DommeKeliDallas
Gay is OK.


Gay is OK, and so is bisexual, and so is heteroflexible.  Why do you think that you have to be either gay or straight?  Gender and sexual preference is hardly a simple binary. 


I truely respect your views and have read many of them.
Opinions are like asses...everyone has one.
But, I am SURE someone will write that they don't have one...
This is MY opinion.

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RE: "FORCED" bi - 6/10/2010 10:04:53 AM   
DommeKeliDallas


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ORIGINAL: igor2003

The term "forced bi" is simply that...a term. In the context of consensual BDSM a "slave" who agrees to be a slave isn't really a slave since they can leave any time they want. But in that context the term "slave" again is simply that...another term. In role playing if you are doing "The Cowboy and the Indian Maiden" the chances are that there is neither a cowboy nor an Indian maiden involved. Again, it is simply a term. The same with "The Interigator and the Spy." And in play rape is it really rape? No. Again it is just a term that describes the type of scene. Why is it that so many people want to complain about the term "forced bi" but don't have any problem with all the other "terms" involved that are there simply to describe the type of scene or action?


Because it isn't "forced" if you want to do it anyway.

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RE: "FORCED" bi - 6/10/2010 10:08:03 AM   
igor2003


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ORIGINAL: DommeKeliDallas

quote:

ORIGINAL: igor2003

The term "forced bi" is simply that...a term. In the context of consensual BDSM a "slave" who agrees to be a slave isn't really a slave since they can leave any time they want. But in that context the term "slave" again is simply that...another term. In role playing if you are doing "The Cowboy and the Indian Maiden" the chances are that there is neither a cowboy nor an Indian maiden involved. Again, it is simply a term. The same with "The Interigator and the Spy." And in play rape is it really rape? No. Again it is just a term that describes the type of scene. Why is it that so many people want to complain about the term "forced bi" but don't have any problem with all the other "terms" involved that are there simply to describe the type of scene or action?


Because it isn't "forced" if you want to do it anyway.



Yes, and in a rape scene there isn't any rape.

And in "Cowboy and Indian Maiden" there isn't any cowboy or Indian maiden.

And in "interigator and spy" there is no interigator or spy.

And in BDSM slavery there isn't really any slave.

So why complain about "forced bi" if there isn't any "forced"?

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RE: "FORCED" bi - 6/10/2010 10:10:15 AM   
LadyNTrainer


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ORIGINAL: DommeKeliDallas
If you are "bi" another term I have a problem with...that mean that you are HALF GAY and would suck dick anyway.


Telling bisexuals they don't exist is seriously rude, disrespectful and inconsiderate.  My partner is pansexual; that means the genitals don't matter to him so much as the person.  I think that's a pretty damn cool orientation, and a remarkably enlightened outlook.  I think it's wonderful that he takes pleasure in being with men, women and all the flavors in between, as long as they're people he genuinely likes and cares for. 

And you'd try to put him in a box and call him "half gay" instead of respecting what bisexual and pansexual really means to the people who are oriented that way?  That's not cool.  The correct definition for someone who is only attracted to their own sex is gay, someone who is only attracted to the opposite sex is straight, and people who are interested in both are bi, even if it's situationally.  

"Half gay" is not an orientation, but bisexual definitely is.  Respect it, please.


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RE: "FORCED" bi - 6/10/2010 10:19:34 AM   
daddysprop247


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Yes, and in a rape scene there isn't any rape.

And in "Cowboy and Indian Maiden" there isn't any cowboy or Indian maiden.

And in "interigator and spy" there is no interigator or spy.

And in BDSM slavery there isn't really any slave.

So why complain about "forced bi" if there isn't any "forced"?



not everyone within this lifestyle uses "terms" falsely for the purposes of hot scenes and kink. in fact, some of us do not engage in scenes at all. for some of us this lifestyle affords us the opportunity to live an authentic life and be our true selves.

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RE: "FORCED" bi - 6/10/2010 10:21:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DommeKeliDallas

quote:

ORIGINAL: igor2003

The term "forced bi" is simply that...a term. In the context of consensual BDSM a "slave" who agrees to be a slave isn't really a slave since they can leave any time they want. But in that context the term "slave" again is simply that...another term. In role playing if you are doing "The Cowboy and the Indian Maiden" the chances are that there is neither a cowboy nor an Indian maiden involved. Again, it is simply a term. The same with "The Interigator and the Spy." And in play rape is it really rape? No. Again it is just a term that describes the type of scene. Why is it that so many people want to complain about the term "forced bi" but don't have any problem with all the other "terms" involved that are there simply to describe the type of scene or action?


Because it isn't "forced" if you want to do it anyway.


What if you have no desire to do it, but are willing to if the right person asks?


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RE: "FORCED" bi - 6/10/2010 10:22:52 AM   
igor2003


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Yes, and in a rape scene there isn't any rape.

And in "Cowboy and Indian Maiden" there isn't any cowboy or Indian maiden.

And in "interigator and spy" there is no interigator or spy.

And in BDSM slavery there isn't really any slave.

So why complain about "forced bi" if there isn't any "forced"?



not everyone within this lifestyle uses "terms" falsely for the purposes of hot scenes and kink. in fact, some of us do not engage in scenes at all. for some of us this lifestyle affords us the opportunity to live an authentic life and be our true selves.




My point is that BDSM and kink in general (in fact life in general) is filled with terms that are used...though maybe not by you...to describe different scenes or actions. Yet people want to single out just one to complain about.

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RE: "FORCED" bi - 6/10/2010 10:24:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DommeKeliDallas
If you are "bi" another term I have a problem with...that mean that you are HALF GAY and would suck dick anyway.


Telling bisexuals they don't exist is seriously rude, disrespectful and inconsiderate.  My partner is pansexual; that means the genitals don't matter to him so much as the person.  I think that's a pretty damn cool orientation, and a remarkably enlightened outlook.  I think it's wonderful that he takes pleasure in being with men, women and all the flavors in between, as long as they're people he genuinely likes and cares for. 

And you'd try to put him in a box and call him "half gay" instead of respecting what bisexual and pansexual really means to the people who are oriented that way?  That's not cool.  The correct definition for someone who is only attracted to their own sex is gay, someone who is only attracted to the opposite sex is straight, and people who are interested in both are bi, even if it's situationally.  

"Half gay" is not an orientation, but bisexual definitely is.  Respect it, please.


Thank You, LadyNTrainer. Thank You very much. i'm bisexual and i know i exist. i'm not half anything, but i'm a whole person. As You were saying about Your partner, the genitals or gender don't matter to me so much, but the person does. Just because someone doesn't understand a certain orientation, it doesn't mean they have to put it down.

~sweetsub~



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RE: "FORCED" bi - 6/10/2010 10:25:23 AM   
daddysprop247


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My point is that BDSM and kink in general (in fact life in general) is filled with terms that are used...though maybe not by you...to describe different scenes or actions. Yet people want to single out just one to complain about.


oh this is not the only one complained about...check the archives someday.

and whenever i happen to stumble across someone using a word or phrase in complete contradiction to the actual meaning of that terminology, i will be there, annoyingly pointing out the error of their ways!

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