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How do you describe yourself today? - 4/11/2006 5:33:38 PM   
OneX2


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Status: offline 		It is ironic to see the words how we describe ourselves and what these experiences mean to us in this life style when you actually look at the what they originally meant, and can mean. I have just done a few here. , but I wonder if any one reading this found one of these or another that really surprised the.





Main Entry:  

Bondage


Part of Speech:  

noun


Definition:  

slavery


Synonyms:  

chains, enslavement, helotry, peonage, serfage, serfdom, servility, servitude, subjection, subjugation, thrall, thralldom, villenage


Antonyms:  

emancipation, freedom, independence, liberty


Source:  

Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)






Main Entry:  

captivity


Part of Speech:  

noun


Definition:  

detention


Synonyms:  

Bondage, committal, confinement, constraint, custody, durance, duress, enslavement, enthrallment, entombment, impoundment, imprisonment, incarceration, internment, jail, limbo, restraint, serfdom, servitude, slavery, subjection, thralldom, vassalage


Antonyms:  

emancipation, freedom, liberty






Main Entry:  

restraint


Part of Speech:  

noun 1617


Definition:  

limitation


Synonyms:  

abridgment, arrest, ban, bar, barrier, Bondage, bridle, captivity, chains, check, command, confinement, constraint, cramp, curb, decrease, deprivation, detention, determent, deterrence, embargo, fetters, hindrance, impediment, imprisonment, instruction, interdict, juice, limit, manacles, obstacle, obstruction, order, pinions, prohibition, reduction, rein, repression, restriction, rope, stop, stoppage, straitjacket, string, taboo, violence, weight


Antonyms:  

excess, indulgence


Source:  

Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)





Main Entry:  

servitude


Part of Speech:  

noun


Definition:  

slavery


Synonyms:  

Bondage, bonds, chains, confinement, enslavement, obedience, peonage, serfdom, serfhood, subjection, subjugation, thrall, thralldom, vassalage, yoke


Antonyms:  

freedom, liberty


Source:  

Roget's New Millennium™ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.1.1)

Maybe now more of you will look for peons as you enjoy subjugating your vassalage for fun and more!

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RE: How do you describe yourself today? - 4/12/2006 4:45:27 AM   
SusanofO


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Status: offline 		Great point (looking at the antonyms especially).  - Susan

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RE: How do you describe yourself today? - 4/12/2006 5:50:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		These aren't what the words originally meant- they are all recent manifestations of older words, bastardizations, plain old borrowing and stealing and amalgamation of cultures.  English itself is not nearly one of the oldest languages.

Language is fluid.

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RE: How do you describe yourself today? - 4/12/2006 6:22:17 AM   
ShiftedJewel


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Status: offline 		From A Critical Pronouncing Dictionary and Expositor, published 1815
 
Bondage s. captivity
 
Captivity s. bondage
 
Restraint s. abridgement of
 
Servitude s. slavery, dependence
 
I have no idea what the s. stands for.. I just copied what it said. (ok, I didn't copy the pronouncing part... but I think we all get the drift)
 
A lot of words are bastardized over the years, but not all of them. These meanings are almost 200 years old and they still hold the same basic meaning.
 
And English is a very old language, maybe not the english we in America have developed over the years, but in and of itself, it was standardized around 1430 by King Henry V, it was called Chancery Standard, then later in the 15th century some of the vowels shifted, but that only altered the pronouncation, not the definition. That's pretty old.
 
As a footnote... it's a really odd feeling to be leafing through a book that old.

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RE: How do you describe yourself today? - 4/12/2006 6:33:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel
A lot of words are bastardized over the years, but not all of them. These meanings are almost 200 years old and they still hold the same basic meaning.

I consider 200 to be barely an eyeblink.
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And English is a very old language, maybe not the english we in America have developed over the years, but in and of itself, it was standardized around 1430 by King Henry V, it was called Chancery Standard, then later in the 15th century some of the vowels shifted, but that only altered the pronouncation, not the definition. That's pretty old.

I guess we have different versions of "old language".

It's been about 600 years since we saw English being standardized.  That's still about 2000 years AFTER the surgence of the greak ancient Greek philosophers. 

To me, that's an old language, and it's nowhere near the oldest.

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RE: How do you describe yourself today? - 4/12/2006 8:10:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Of course Englist has roots in Greek, Latin, German, French and Saxon (for memory) There is of course the Old English.. However the common meaning of phrases and words have changed since, lets say Bill Shakespear's time, before standardised spelling when words were spelt phoeneticaly (read the original version of Chaucer's "Cantabry Tales"). Shakespear refered to a a person being happoy when he said they were gay.. I rest my case.... 

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RE: How do you describe yourself today? - 4/12/2006 8:22:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		How would I describe myself today?
 
Literally, as one very frustrated college student

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RE: How do you describe yourself today? - 4/12/2006 8:22:53 AM   
OneX2


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Status: offline 		It is amazing to me that we find a word and make it our own and some times it sticks. Yet we have such fluid and at the same time fixed ways of representation of/in ourselves, and how some one else may become pissed instantly by seeing a word that is trivial, or out dated to you.

That dictionary from 1815 is a treasure! I hope you will keep it safe.

Joseph

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RE: How do you describe yourself today? - 4/12/2006 3:23:04 PM   
fullofgrace


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Status: offline 		i have to agree with la in terms of old languages - i'm studying a language right now that's 3000 years old. so, well, 200 -is- an eyeblink. and yes, meanings do get changed...often.

i think this thread is an interesting concept. to me, the difference in meaning between, say, captivity (one of my favorite words) as it means to me in bdsm and captivity as it meant in terms of slavery or imprisonment in the recent past (i'm thinking pre-civil war in america specifically) has to do with the fact that i choose to be captive. i willingly give up my rights because i find freedom in that. so freedom and captivity are not antonyms to me. but, and not just in this lifestyle, we are constantly defining and redefining words based on our own understandings and conceptions.


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RE: How do you describe yourself today? - 4/12/2006 3:43:35 PM   
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That dictionary from 1815 is a treasure! I hope you will keep it safe.


It's just one of many antique books that I keep VERY safe.

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RE: How do you describe yourself today? - 4/12/2006 4:01:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am a Dominant.... a selfish man who wants his own way....now how many of you girls out there are wondering if I am your ex?

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RE: How do you describe yourself today? - 4/12/2006 4:15:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		stronger than girl has been in a long time....a strong slave who is always willing to learn, to grow and to please the One who will become her Master.

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RE: How do you describe yourself today? - 4/12/2006 4:50:27 PM   
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That one won't mean anything in the States ...


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RE: How do you describe yourself today? - 4/12/2006 4:59:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PrinceSitri

Knackered!

That one won't mean anything in the States ...



LOL. Some of us understand that version of English ya'll speak. Tired, huh?


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RE: How do you describe yourself today? - 4/12/2006 5:09:11 PM   
slavejali


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Status: offline 		Remember my first day at my french class in uni..professor had a language up on the board..asked us if we knew what it was....turned out it was english...and hardly understandable *grin*

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RE: How do you describe yourself today? - 4/12/2006 6:40:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: wytchywoman

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ORIGINAL: PrinceSitri

Knackered!

That one won't mean anything in the States ...



LOL. Some of us understand that version of English ya'll speak. Tired, huh?


Over-tired. It's 3.37 and my body folded up about four hours ago but I can't get my mind to shut down.


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