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Brain -> RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband flirts: Make yourself more attractive and‘don’t hassle (6/13/2010 8:44:55 AM)


I think I would have agreed with you or him when I was younger or a teenager but now that I'm older I think if you want to have a very good relationship with a woman it's better not to do it. My experience is that the woman will get mad and start an argument about something different and the guy has no idea why they are arguing about something stupid. And that's when all the jokes about PMS time of the month start with men.

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella

It's not the worst advice in the world.

Marriage advice boils down to 3 things:

1. Accept it or learn to live with it.
2. Try to convince the other person to change.
3. End the marriage.

Presuming #3 is not a desirable option a person has to gamble on either 1 or 2.




Brain -> RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband flirts: Make yourself more attractive and‘don’t hassle (6/13/2010 8:48:51 AM)


Not as much as you have but I don't think the women who listen to Pat Robertson would be interested in lifestyles on this website. Do you watch his show?

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ORIGINAL: eyesopened

Brain,
Have you ever read any of the threads on the BDSM side of these forums?  Yanno... the part where women actually choose to be submissive?




loverly -> RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband flirts: Make yourself more attractive and‘don’t ha (6/13/2010 9:04:54 AM)

i agree with His advice ( from a submissive point of view and an "Old Fashioned" way of thinking) .. it wont work for ALL because so many women today have been brought up ( in the past few generations) to think that taking over a Mans place in the family is OK and right .. and fullfilling.. However.. walking around Wal Mart or in public in general.. You don't see many Happy faces.. or hear about many satisfying relationships happening out there.. More so relationships where the Men go out with the guys ( and when you are at the bar watching see them flirting with anything ( and perhaps fucking them as well in a casual manner ) they can catch the attention of ) and then the women are also out ther with all their friends doing the same thing.. WHY aren't they out Together IF they consider their partner their Best Friend? i personally love hanging with my Best friend no matter who else is there or where i am ! and would wish Him to feel the same.... if others do not like that situation then tough s***! ( i would look at ehir relationship at this point and see that it is not happy nor successful more than likely!) So many people drift apart.. forget what it was like in the begining and how we attracted that other person in the first place!

i do not find flirting to be a bad thing.. only if taken further than just harmless flirting. However i also know that for alot of ppl .. in AND out of the " lifestyle", it makes it a bit difficult to feel Special and form deeper bonds of trust with someone who runs around making eyes at everything in a skirt!

If people concentrated on thier primary relationship with true focus and thought for the other person involved , i do not believe there would be the need or time to be running around flirting and wanting attention or positive reinforcement from strangers or friends. Being made up and pretty and in a good mood for your partner when they come Home is important to keep things fresh and let them other person know they Matter! It also creates a place where each person WANTS to be more than any other place....

...and i do believe that this is important for BOTH people in the relationship to do for the other and the relationship.

And no i do not like nor know enough about Pat Robertson to form a like or dislike opinion.. i think this is more just a way to make a successful long term, deeper relationship.

just my [sm=2cents.gif] :-)



eyesopened -> RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband flirts: Make yourself more attractive and‘don’t hassle (6/13/2010 9:18:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Brain
Not as much as you have but I don't think the women who listen to Pat Robertson would be interested in lifestyles on this website. Do you watch his show?
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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
Brain,
Have you ever read any of the threads on the BDSM side of these forums?  Yanno... the part where women actually choose to be submissive?


Well you got me there.  I have never watched his show.  I've seen the tail end of a few only because for some reason his show came on right before 'Whose Line Is It Anyway' and we used to record that.  What little I've seen he, sounds like a putz.  What I've read, I'm convinced he's a putz.



xBullx -> RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband flirts: Make yourself more attractive and‘don’t hassle (6/13/2010 9:50:33 AM)

A funny thread. [I just can't resist a rsponse]

I don't know about Pat Robertson and his self righteous as well as self promotional advice. But have you ever really evaluated the relationships around you, look through the show that is maintained in public and see which couples are actually happy, that have been together a long time and why that is?

Oh and not all long term relationships are happy, some have just become numb to one another. Some were numb from the beginning.

Evaluate human nature, and then understand that it seems to me that the woman is best adaptive to change, not that she should have too, but hey where do you find happiness. You can sacrifice some small things or you can sacrifice some big things, the neat thing about the western world is you have a choice. Make it and live with it.

As far as men looking, we're window shoppers mostly, at least once we have something we like. It's nature that moves our eyes, it's our ego's that test with the idea of a flirt; but it's a woman's ability to hold her man's interest (not hold the man, but hold his interest, and that doesn't imply superficial beauty either) that keeps it only his eyes that are wandering.

I assure you that if it weren't for the financial loss that comes with the seperation of the unhappy man, most men that didn't have a woman putting forth the effort would be moving on.

My bet is that it was some Politician that had multiple daughters that weren't worth their weight in shit that concocted the idea that she get's half so they didn't end up back at his house after she ended up out on her ass because she was an annoying bitch. Which is where she should be, after all it was his lack of parental control and command that fostered the cunt to begin with.

And sure girls you can "look" as well, hell dance with the devil or anyone else if it suits you, but it'll only support Pat's claims. Like it or not, you can carry on with all the feminist rhetoric about equality all you want, but it's a man's world to either maintain justly with at least some sense of compassion, nobility and fair play or he can surrender it to you, in which case he will most likely discover nothing more than petty jealousy and bickering.

[retracts tongue from cheek and moves on][:D]



xBullx -> RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband flirts: Make yourself more attractive and‘don’t hassle (6/13/2010 9:55:36 AM)

Don't argue. Unless of course it suits your purpose and then don't argue, impress your point and walk away. You're so easily manipulated, grow a pair for fucks sake.

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ORIGINAL: Brain


I think I would have agreed with you or him when I was younger or a teenager but now that I'm older I think if you want to have a very good relationship with a woman it's better not to do it. My experience is that the woman will get mad and start an argument about something different and the guy has no idea why they are arguing about something stupid. And that's when all the jokes about PMS time of the month start with men.




Owner59 -> RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband flirts: Make yourself more attractive and‘don’t hassle (6/13/2010 10:01:03 AM)

It would be good advice even if Jeffry Dommer said it.

Pat is no more a nut than most fundies.It`s his viewers that are scary.Probably where Domiguy get`s his tag line.




Lucylastic -> RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband flirts: Make yourself more attractive and‘don’t hassle (6/13/2010 10:04:15 AM)

Ya Im sure we gonna get right on that.....pffffffffffft



xBullx -> RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband flirts: Make yourself more attractive and‘don’t hassle (6/13/2010 10:08:42 AM)

Then I suspect that Domiguy should add to his tag something like:

And please Mr. Hawking protect me from your followers as well.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

It would be good advice even if Jeffry Dommer said it.

Pat is no more a nut than most fundies.It`s his viewers that are scary.Probably where Domiguy get`s his tag line.





Owner59 -> RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband flirts: Make yourself more attractive and‘don’t hassle (6/13/2010 10:11:48 AM)

[:D]



FatDomDaddy -> RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband flirts: Make yourself more attractive and‘don’t hassle (6/13/2010 10:26:21 AM)

Domestic Discipline, Wifely submission, Head of Household... all very strong lifestyles with in the Evangelical Communities that Robertson witnesses and preaches. In many of those relationships, the entire nature a woman chooses is to submit to the will of her husband, to make her life about serving him and mothering his children. It’s the husband’s world and a wife need to know her place in it. It’s not exactly my views by any stretch but it is theirs.

Now Brain…

You are one of the poster always demanding tolerance and acceptance, so why are you stomping on their kink?



FatDomDaddy -> RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband flirts: Make yourself more attractive and‘don’t hassle (6/13/2010 10:30:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SirAldwyn



I do not think Robertson's advice is to women who choose to be submissive, but more to all women and how to relate to the man in their relationship. In which case Brain is most probability correct in that most women would not agree with it.

Besides where in the role of a women/men being submissive does it say they have to tolerate flirting by their martial partner unless it is something that has been discussed and within the boundaries of their relationship.   I think the mistake Robertson makes is treating every martial relationship with the boundaries he has set in his own.  Cause most of us are not that nuts




Maybe nothing in D/s but DD and HoH relationships are often TPE's where the wife chooses to submit fully to the will of her husband. These types of marriages are prevalent within the Evangelical Christian movement.

Robertson is preaching to his flock.



FatDomDaddy -> RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband flirts: Make yourself more attractive and‘don’t hassle (6/13/2010 10:36:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Brain


Not as much as you have but I don't think the women who listen to Pat Robertson would be interested in lifestyles on this website.



And you would be very very wrong as I just listed a few of the lifestyles on this website, that those women are very interested in.



Brain -> RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband flirts: Make yourself more attractive and‘don’t hassle (6/13/2010 10:44:42 AM)


They can do whatever they want but it just doesn't work for me. I like to be focused on the person I'm with because if I'm in love with her I get happier. And because I'm not interested in hurting the person I’m with and I think if you flirt that’s what happens.

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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

Domestic Discipline, Wifely submission, Head of Household... all very strong lifestyles with in the Evangelical Communities that Robertson witnesses and preaches. In many of those relationships, the entire nature a woman chooses is to submit to the will of her husband, to make her life about serving him and mothering his children. It’s the husband’s world and a wife need to know her place in it. It’s not exactly my views by any stretch but it is theirs.

Now Brain…

You are one of the poster always demanding tolerance and acceptance, so why are you stomping on their kink?





Brain -> RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband flirts: Make yourself more attractive and‘don’t hassle (6/13/2010 10:50:09 AM)


I could very well be wrong you're right, but I don't see it on his TV show. If I did see it on his show I would watch it.


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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy


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ORIGINAL: Brain


Not as much as you have but I don't think the women who listen to Pat Robertson would be interested in lifestyles on this website.



And you would be very very wrong as I just listed a few of the lifestyles on this website, that those women are very interested in.




Brain -> RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband flirts: Make yourself more attractive and‘don’t hassle (6/13/2010 11:01:05 AM)

When you screw around on a woman you get music like this.

YouTube - Linda Ronstadt - You're No Good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr9vKWLgZzo&feature=related



Elisabella -> RE: Pat Robertson’s advice to woman whose husband flirts: Make yourself more attractive and‘don’t hassle (6/13/2010 8:54:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Brain


I think I would have agreed with you or him when I was younger or a teenager but now that I'm older I think if you want to have a very good relationship with a woman it's better not to do it. My experience is that the woman will get mad and start an argument about something different and the guy has no idea why they are arguing about something stupid. And that's when all the jokes about PMS time of the month start with men.


Oh no doubt from the guy's perspective it might be better not to do it. But from the woman's perspective, that's why I say Robertson's advice was good...because getting mad or resentful will lead to the situation you described, and that's not good for the relationship, whereas learning to work with it might actually help their relationship by renewing their sex life.



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