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Brain -> Is the tea party over? (6/14/2010 8:43:09 PM)

It was over before it ever Started.

Is the tea party over?

Is the tea party movement already weak tea? Has the anti-government, anti-Obama movement already peaked?

A new ABC-Washington Post poll shows that half of Americans now view the tea party unfavorably. Besides that, its political endorsements have not turned out as well as many had hoped.

http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2010/06/14/is-the-tea-party-over/




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Is the tea party over? (6/14/2010 8:46:41 PM)

Shit. I was hoping they'd hang on long enough to rip the republican party into even smaller shreds.

Oh, well, it was entertaining while it lasted. But I guess I need to re-learn one of the lessons I learned as a small child - when the circus comes to town, it never stays.




tazzygirl -> RE: Is the tea party over? (6/14/2010 9:13:37 PM)

Now Panda, dont belittle the circus that way. They all work hard for a common goal.... unlike the tea party. [:D]




DarkSteven -> RE: Is the tea party over? (6/14/2010 10:07:13 PM)

It's not over.

They had an impact on the GOP primaries.  The Tea Party-backed candidates will not be moderate enough to get the votes this time around.  So they'll basically do nothing more than hurt the GOP this election.

Two years from now, they'll have more savvy and the voters will be angrier than they are this year.  The GOP will be split apart and the fiscal conservatives will show better than in 2010.




pahunkboy -> RE: Is the tea party over? (6/14/2010 10:11:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brain
Is the tea party over?


Yes.

Ron Paul ruined the Ron Paul movement.

1207-- a full audit of the federal reserve will not happen.  The financial reform is beyond corrupt.


Congress does not read the laws that lobbyists bribed them to vote for.

People are losing- their jobs, houses, and their retirements.

We are beyond tea.   The ugliness that will follow is grim.   Not to worry- war with Iran by Fall 2010, and a 3-1 currency devaluation are certain.

We are way past "tea"





Brain -> RE: Is the tea party over? (6/14/2010 10:45:53 PM)

Good that you know because I don't know what the hell is going on anymore.

In the past three months, more people have quit their jobs than have been laid off. Are workers more confident or are they overworked and can't take it anymore?


FTA:
The economy has seen substantial growth in GDP, which has been climbing much more rapidly than employment or the number of hours logged by workers.

Rather than hire new workers, employers have been content to simply give the existing work force more hours. "Consequently, people are just working longer or harder in order to get the work done," Bishop says. "That's how we accomplished big increases in GDP."

And that's got another expert wondering if those workers quitting their jobs aren't just plain overworked. "Could it be that people/workers are just sick and tired of producing more and more only to see executive pay increase?" asks Michael Brandl, professor of economics and finance at the University of Texas at Austin.

He may have a point. After years of recession and financial distress, it's no wonder many Americans are fed up. They've watched as home foreclosure rates and the numbers of jobless have skyrocketed. All the while, many on Wall Street and in corporate executive suites have been largely unaffected.

Maybe in quitting those jobs, some Americans are taking a stand, echoing the words of civil rights activist Fannie Lou Hamer, who once said, "I'm sick of being tired."



People@Work: Americans Are Quitting Jobs Again. Is That Good News?

After a deep recession that saw the loss of some 8 million jobs, the U.S. unemployment rate lingers near its highest levels in decades. But that isn't stopping some people from telling their bosses they've had enough and are calling it quits. Data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics show that in the past three months, more people have quit their jobs than have been laid off.

Quitting a job in this economy would seem to fly in the face of common sense. But some analysts say the resurgence of growth has some workers feeling more confident about the future. "I think that people are less frightened. I think that people now feel as if the jobs they wanted are starting to open up," Clark University labor economist Gary Chaison, told the Marketplace radio program.

Still, with 9.7% of Americans unemployed, according to the Labor Department's latest report, the U.S. employment picture has a long way to go before it once again appears anywhere near normal. Things are just starting to move in the right direction, says John Bishop, associate professor of Human Resource Studies at Cornell University's ILR School.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/careers/americans-are-quitting-jobs-again-is-that-good-news/19514220/




Owner59 -> RE: Is the tea party over? (6/14/2010 10:54:08 PM)

Ron Paul`s tea party isn`t over.

The fake one put on by the cons that rejected Ron Paul was over before it started.

His son creeps me out tho.




Fellow -> RE: Is the tea party over? (6/14/2010 11:38:11 PM)

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It was over before it ever Started.


It is certainly the Democrats hope for. I doubt it is over. Ideas rule the world and T Partiers  have ideas to fight for. The two ruling parties are confused and corrupt. It creates vacuum and the nature does not like empty space.

Obamanites Democrat commentators of course play the game trying to discredit T party movement any chance they get.
Quote from Cynthia Tucker:
"No matter what this administration does, this will be a time of transformative change in the economy and perhaps in foreign policy, as well. I won't lack for interesting column subjects."




Nineveh -> RE: Is the tea party over? (6/15/2010 12:27:48 AM)

A Republican party "ripped to shreds" by the tea party is not a good thing for liberals.  Yes, it means more Democrats and less Republicans win votes.  However it also means that those Democrats are going to be more conservative as a way to win relatively moderate votes.  A moderate Republican party means that Democrats will move in a more liberal direction as a way to energize the base.




Brain -> RE: Is the tea party over? (6/15/2010 1:07:18 AM)

I guess this is Democrats/Obama being more conservative (I blame Repug deregulation for the financial crisis). Too bad Obama doesn’t get it – this sucks. This shit (doing nothing, no real Wall Street reform) is going to win Dems moderate votes?

A Second Financial Crisis: More Likely Than You Think - DailyFinance

Since the depths of the financial crisis last winter, stock markets have rallied sharply. But despite the spurt of soul-searching in the wake of the crisis, surprisingly little changed even with the pain inflicted by the Great Recession, says John Authers, who edits the Lex column for the Financial Times and is the author of The Fearful Rise of Markets. In a video interview with DailyFinance, Authers argues that the chances of another crisis are, therefore, much higher than most investors realize (see below).

http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/investing/second-financial-crisis-more-likely-than-you-think/19514369/






eyesopened -> RE: Is the tea party over? (6/15/2010 5:46:08 AM)

I fear that real reform is almost like drug or alcohol rehab... no one is going to admit they need it until they hit rock bottom.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Is the tea party over? (6/15/2010 6:58:03 AM)

When I first heard about the tea party, I was thinking, "Hot Damn here comes a bunch of independent thinkers that are rejecting both parties" and just maybe this "far right vs far left and screw you 70% in the middle" will end.

Alas, the so called independents in the tea party were immediately coopted by the far right and the whole thing went someplace hot in a handbasket.

When will a centrist party of people that actually have brains and aren't afraid to use them pop up?




Owner59 -> RE: Is the tea party over? (6/15/2010 8:10:44 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nineveh

A Republican party "ripped to shreds" by the tea party is not a good thing for liberals.  Yes, it means more Democrats and less Republicans win votes.  However it also means that those Democrats are going to be more conservative as a way to win relatively moderate votes.  A moderate Republican party means that Democrats will move in a more liberal direction as a way to energize the base.


Right now,the democratic party is the middle,the center,with the GOP failing so horribly,splitting and radicalizing.There`s no place to go for moderate conservitives,accept to stay home on election days.

The dems need to appeal to the middle class`s moderate views and wholesome, normal values(not lip service about values).That`s all we need to do.

What most Americans want is competence and their services delivered as cheaply as possible but effectively.They don`t want drama or to be lied to and they sure as hell don`t want failure at catastrophic levels.

Ideology is not what drives most swing voters to one way or the other.





Lucylastic -> RE: Is the tea party over? (6/15/2010 8:52:44 AM)

First you gotta get the parties/candidates/media to stop lying 




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