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When did it become a "natural disaster??? - 6/19/2010 8:41:00 AM   
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The Oil spill in the Gulf was caused by an explosion on the oil rig itself, so why do leading Republicans continue to call it a "natural disaster"

nat·u·ral dis·as·ter (plural nat·u·ral dis·as·ters)
noun 
Definition:
disaster caused by natural forces: a disaster caused by natural forces rather than by human action, e.g. an earthquake
It seems now the GOP is creating new definitions so as not to piss off those who fill their pockets.

[S]ome Republicans are having trouble bringing themselves to say anything bad about an industry that has been so good to them. It was notable that in their statement distancing themselves from Barton, House Republican leaders John A. Boehner (Ohio), Eric Cantor (Va.) and Mike Pence (Ind.) referred to the spill — caused by the explosion of an oil rig — as a “natural” disaster.
The oil industry “has deep pockets, and they have a long history of supporting Republicans,” said political consultant John Weaver, a former strategist for John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign. “Like any kind of addiction, it’s a terribly difficult thing to break.
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RE: When did it become a "natural disaster??? - 6/19/2010 8:51:50 AM   
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If its a natural disaster then the Gvt will be expected to pay for the recovery, which will give the Republicans more ammo when they claim the Democrats are profligates...somewhat dirty pool, but somewhat predictable

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RE: When did it become a "natural disaster??? - 6/19/2010 9:25:47 AM   
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By extension, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were also natural disasters. Hmmm, we paid for them as well didn't we ?

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RE: When did it become a "natural disaster??? - 6/19/2010 11:43:38 AM   
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Not only wouldn't I call it a "natural Disaster"...I'm not even totally sure it was an accident.

It amazes me the number if Liberal/Communists truthers world wide who will rabidly argue that Bush and Cheney were involved in a conspiracy to implode the World Trade Center in a controlled demolition in order start a war in the Middle East for Oil.

But of course the very same 9-11 truthers, will tell you that your in need of a tin foil hat if you point out that George Soros has 811 Million Dollars invested in Brazilian offshore drilling and that Soros stands to make billions off that investment as the offshore rigs leave American Waters for even riskier deeper water drilling off the coast of Brazil.

One doesn't leave multi million dollar offshore drilling rigs sitting around idle very long. They get floated and towed off to other parts of the world that are more Offshore Friendly.

So much for Obama and the rest of the American Liberal/Communists lip service, to their campaign promise of less dependence on Foreign oil.

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RE: When did it become a "natural disaster??? - 6/19/2010 11:52:14 AM   
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ah so you believe its one big conspiracy?

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RE: When did it become a "natural disaster??? - 6/19/2010 11:53:22 AM   
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offshore rigs leave American Waters for even riskier deeper water drilling off the coast of Brazil.

Actually Brazil has tougher safety rules than the US does. For instance Brazil requires an acoustic switch which the US does not.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704423504575212031417936798.html

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RE: When did it become a "natural disaster??? - 6/19/2010 12:39:17 PM   
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Neither the dead man switch or the Acoustic switch's designers ever envisioned a situation where a 396 ft, 32000 ton offshore drilling rig, sinks and comes crashing down onto the ocean floor around your well head.

Did you even read your own article? The article you quote (Written by people that didn't have the faintest notion about anything to do with oil well emergency shut off valves before last week...But boy, putting a different kind of shut off valve sure SOUNDS safer and makes good news print.) Goes to great length to explain...that the Acoustic Switch has never been tested except in computer models. None of which ever envisioned a worst case scenario LIKE THE FRIK"IN RIG CATASTROPHICALLY EXPLODING AND SINKING.

It's pretty easy for some Brazilian Lawyer to put a safety clause in a rule book...Whats not so easy is getting a Latin American oil company to ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT those safety procedure or to pay much attention to Safety at all.

The ugly fact is....THE DEEPER YOU DRILL THE MORE DANGEROUS IT IS.

Jacking off over different safety valve configurations doesn't change that fact a bit, anywhere in the real world, outside the democratic Liberal/Communist side of the American Senate.

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RE: When did it become a "natural disaster??? - 6/19/2010 12:50:22 PM   
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It was never a 'natural disaster', its just one more corporate-created disaster. One that'll be yapped about until we're tired of hearing about it, then somebody will make some kind of announcement, and the issue will fade away, to the taxpayers' detriment. Don't expect BP to pay a damn thing, after all, they're one of the corporations that tell the government what to do. Bush didn't go meet with Saddam Hussein multiple times to make demands of him, he just sent in the troops, which is what needs to happen to BP's headquarters and every one of their shareholders' homes. We could do nightsweeps and kick in some doors, just like we're still doing in Iraq.

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RE: When did it become a "natural disaster??? - 6/19/2010 12:55:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DarwinsLilHelper

Not only wouldn't I call it a "natural Disaster"...I'm not even totally sure it was an accident.

It amazes me the number if Liberal/Communists truthers world wide who will rabidly argue that Bush and Cheney were involved in a conspiracy to implode the World Trade Center in a controlled demolition in order start a war in the Middle East for Oil.

But of course the very same 9-11 truthers, will tell you that your in need of a tin foil hat if you point out that George Soros has 811 Million Dollars invested in Brazilian offshore drilling and that Soros stands to make billions off that investment as the offshore rigs leave American Waters for even riskier deeper water drilling off the coast of Brazil.

One doesn't leave multi million dollar offshore drilling rigs sitting around idle very long. They get floated and towed off to other parts of the world that are more Offshore Friendly.

So much for Obama and the rest of the American Liberal/Communists lip service, to their campaign promise of less dependence on Foreign oil.


Actually if you weren't a fool, you would know that Petrobas already has about 70% of the deep water rigs already on lease agreements.  Many of those are for when their current leases expire.

Not only that but they are several years off and billions of dollars of investment away from bringing those fields in.  All they are doing at the moment is getting ready to start exploring the fields.  They are no where near ready to put a large number of rigs to work.

I do see you failed elementary math as well.  On 800 million if the stock price doubled, that would net a return of 1.6 billion, a profit of 800 million.  That is if the price doubled.  Not a bad return (if again the stock price should double, which is not likely since it wasn't a bottom barrel stock to begin with) but far far from billions.

Any other fantasies you need help with?

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RE: When did it become a "natural disaster??? - 6/19/2010 1:22:34 PM   
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Thank goodness, the president has directed BP to order up some new tackle and connect it to the thingummy next to the whachamacallit.

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“It Takes a Spillage.”

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RE: When did it become a "natural disaster??? - 6/19/2010 5:50:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarwinsLilHelper

quote:

Thank goodness, the president has directed BP to order up some new tackle and connect it to the thingummy next to the whachamacallit.

-Mark Steyn
-National Review


quote:

Memo to Secretary Rodham Clinton: Do you find yourself of a quiet evening with a strange craving for chicken dinners and county fairs in Iowa and New Hampshire, maybe next summer? Need one of those relaunch books to explain why you’re getting back in the game in your country’s hour of need?

“It Takes a Spillage.”

-Mark Steyn
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I am sure you have a point but if you keep your hat on perhaps no one will notice.

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RE: When did it become a "natural disaster??? - 6/20/2010 6:07:46 AM   
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Neither the dead man switch or the Acoustic switch's designers ever envisioned a situation where a 396 ft, 32000 ton offshore drilling rig, sinks and comes crashing down onto the ocean floor around your well head.

Did you even read your own article? The article you quote (Written by people that didn't have the faintest notion about anything to do with oil well emergency shut off valves before last week...But boy, putting a different kind of shut off valve sure SOUNDS safer and makes good news print.) Goes to great length to explain...that the Acoustic Switch has never been tested except in computer models. None of which ever envisioned a worst case scenario LIKE THE FRIK"IN RIG CATASTROPHICALLY EXPLODING AND SINKING.

It's pretty easy for some Brazilian Lawyer to put a safety clause in a rule book...Whats not so easy is getting a Latin American oil company to ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT those safety procedure or to pay much attention to Safety at all.

The ugly fact is....THE DEEPER YOU DRILL THE MORE DANGEROUS IT IS.

Jacking off over different safety valve configurations doesn't change that fact a bit, anywhere in the real world, outside the democratic Liberal/Communist side of the American Senate.


What about the little fact you avoided.  When the acoustic switch goes off, shutting the bop, there is then no explosion and no sinking oil rig.  You don't think the trigger taking over would be better than the group standing around on the rig debating over who had the authority to throw the switch?



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RE: When did it become a "natural disaster??? - 6/20/2010 6:54:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DarwinsLilHelper

The ugly fact is....THE DEEPER YOU DRILL THE MORE DANGEROUS IT IS.



The ugly fact is that knowing this the oil companies have repeatedly misled the the public and the government into believing how safe it was.

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RE: When did it become a "natural disaster??? - 6/20/2010 7:02:14 AM   
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It was never a 'natural disaster', its just one more corporate-created disaster. One that'll be yapped about until we're tired of hearing about it, then somebody will make some kind of announcement, and the issue will fade away, to the taxpayers' detriment. Don't expect BP to pay a damn thing, after all, they're one of the corporations that tell the government what to do. Bush didn't go meet with Saddam Hussein multiple times to make demands of him, he just sent in the troops, which is what needs to happen to BP's headquarters and every one of their shareholders' homes. We could do nightsweeps and kick in some doors, just like we're still doing in Iraq.


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Thank the good Lord we have people like you keeping his dream alive.

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