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Gulf rig owner criticizes Obama's drilling halt - 6/22/2010 6:03:58 AM

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This just leaves me speechless.

Eleven dead workers on his rig, millions of gallons of oil spilling, wildlife dying, small businesses being destroyed, shorelines being ruined, and he has the balls to say there should not be a moratorium to examine the safety issues.

Gulf rig owner criticizes 6-month ban on deepwater drilling

NEW ORLEANS – The owner of the drilling rig involved in the massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico criticized the U.S. government's six-month ban on deepwater drilling in the area Tuesday.

On the sidelines of an oil conference in London, Transocean Ltd. president Steven Newman said there were things President Barack Obama's administration "could implement today that would allow the industry to go back to work tomorrow without an arbitrary six-month time limit."

Transocean owns the Deepwater Horizon rig, which was run by British oil company BP PLC. An April 20 explosion on the rig killed 11 workers and set off the worst offshore oil spill in U.S. history.

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RE: Gulf rig owner criticizes Obama's drilling halt - 6/22/2010 6:28:06 AM

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Of course, Steve Newman could also implement today a rigorous programme of inspection and repair and participate in the rigorous application of the regulations that are in place, rather than blame Obama for his renewed caution as to assurances thereof.

Steve Newman might conclude in this way that the job might require a few months to get done, and get on with it so as to make best use of the moratorium period rather than sniping at others when, as things stand, Steve Newman might just become the new "America's Most Hated" when the investigations into this sorry mess are completed; who knows he might even be able to pre-empt a little of what might yet come his way if he showed such an attitude of repentance.

But Steve Newman probably understands that if Steve Newman did any such thing, and bucket loads of faults and safety violations etc were thereby uncovered that Steve Newman would not only be taking a lot of flak but might also significantly annoy his insurers by implied acknowledgment of fault.

So Steve Newman is anxious to resume business as usual and presumably praying to every deity he can find in his Ladybird book of mythology and religion that nothing else happens.

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RE: Gulf rig owner criticizes Obama's drilling halt - 6/22/2010 6:40:12 AM

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Agreed, LadyE. This is the result of deregulation. It would be one thing if everyone was honorable and did the right thing, but alot of people don't, so regulation is essential or things like this happen.

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RE: Gulf rig owner criticizes Obama's drilling halt - 6/22/2010 6:46:49 AM

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What really gets me is his attorney complaining this is an unprecedented shutdown of an entire industry which is absolutely not true as far as being unprecedented, but more to the heart of the matter nothing is being shut down except for exploratory drilling.

The wells already in operation are still operating.

This is only greed, paid for with lives and destruction.

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RE: Gulf rig owner criticizes Obama's drilling halt - 6/22/2010 6:56:40 AM

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The only sensible thing I have heard a Republican say so far was that more regulation was not needed and in fact was pointless in that no one was seeming to bother to apply the regulations already in place. That has to be the start point therefore and so Steve Newman might take that under consideration too.

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RE: Gulf rig owner criticizes Obama's drilling halt - 6/22/2010 11:17:37 AM

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Agreed, LadyE. This is the result of deregulation. It would be one thing if everyone was honorable and did the right thing, but alot of people don't, so regulation is essential or things like this happen.

What deregulation?

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RE: Gulf rig owner criticizes Obama's drilling halt - 6/22/2010 11:25:18 AM

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Arguments about regluation/not aside, the 6 month ban does seem to be an overreaction taken in the heat of the moment, Obama's coerced BP into paying for those out of work due to it, but.....it seemed pretty unecessary to me, taking a big decision like that purely for political posturing, I'm not impressed. Still, I reckon his opponents won't dare go with this legitimate criticism, and will stick with the illegitimate ones instead....

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RE: Gulf rig owner criticizes Obama's drilling halt - 6/22/2010 11:27:42 AM

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Is it unreasonable? This clusterfuck has hardly demonstrated that anybody's drilling in a responsible manner while taking adequete precautions, has it?

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RE: Gulf rig owner criticizes Obama's drilling halt - 6/22/2010 11:31:53 AM

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It's also not demonstrated that flamingoes are pink. Don't mean they ain't.

The point is he just decided to ban it all....not to ban those who weren't meeting X safety standards, just all of them, regardless....

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RE: Gulf rig owner criticizes Obama's drilling halt - 6/22/2010 11:35:25 AM

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Maybe I'm just being unsympathetic, but perhaps the corrolary that could be taken from that is that all of these companies are ignoring the safety standards?

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RE: Gulf rig owner criticizes Obama's drilling halt - 6/22/2010 11:37:42 AM

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Well, at least one judge..the one who matters...agrees.

"U.S. District Court Judge Martin Feldman has ruled in favor of oil related businesses hoping to end a 6-month moratorium on drilling for oil in deepwater. The ruling just came down in New Orleans. "

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RE: Gulf rig owner criticizes Obama's drilling halt - 6/22/2010 11:51:08 AM

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Until we know exactly what went wrong, why it went wrong, and how it can be avoided in the future, it's prudent to stand down. I don't think it will necessarily take 6 months - and in fact, I don't think it will be 6 months before they reach an accomodation and lift the ban - but I think a good case can be made for a moratorium. Was this just a BP problem, or was it an industry problem? Is it a systemic problem, or is it a problem with the basic technology? A regulatory problem? Some combination of all the above?

We don't know for sure, and the stakes are too high to ignore that. This is way too complex an event, and there are apparently far too many things that went wrong on all levels, to just let the oil industry say, "hey, it's cool, we got it" and let them go on as usual.

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RE: Gulf rig owner criticizes Obama's drilling halt - 6/22/2010 11:56:14 AM

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Well, at least one judge..the one who matters...agrees.

"U.S. District Court Judge Martin Feldman has ruled in favor of oil related businesses hoping to end a 6-month moratorium on drilling for oil in deepwater. The ruling just came down in New Orleans. "

And the appeal will be filed by the end of the day, or no later than tomorrow morning. 8 of the 33 deepwater rigs in the gulf are still on schedule to leave by the end of the week. Once they're gone, they're gone, and it will probably be years before they all come back.

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RE: Gulf rig owner criticizes Obama's drilling halt - 6/22/2010 11:57:56 AM

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Well, at least one judge..the one who matters...agrees.

"U.S. District Court Judge Martin Feldman has ruled in favor of oil related businesses hoping to end a 6-month moratorium on drilling for oil in deepwater. The ruling just came down in New Orleans. "

And the appeal will be filed by the end of the day, or no later than tomorrow morning. 8 of the 33 deepwater rigs in the gulf are still on schedule to leave by the end of the week. Once they're gone, they're gone, and it will probably be years before they all come back.

And that is why a "6 month moratorium" would be such a disaster. It would cripple the industry in the area for years, not 6 months.

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RE: Gulf rig owner criticizes Obama's drilling halt - 6/22/2010 12:05:09 PM

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Well, at least one judge..the one who matters...agrees.

"U.S. District Court Judge Martin Feldman has ruled in favor of oil related businesses hoping to end a 6-month moratorium on drilling for oil in deepwater. The ruling just came down in New Orleans. "

And the appeal will be filed by the end of the day, or no later than tomorrow morning. 8 of the 33 deepwater rigs in the gulf are still on schedule to leave by the end of the week. Once they're gone, they're gone, and it will probably be years before they all come back.

And that is why a "6 month moratorium" would be such a disaster. It would cripple the industry in the area for years, not 6 months.

I agree with you, but there's no easy answer. We need to know what happened and how to keep it from happening again, and we do not yet know that. I'll admit I'm conflicted on this, but at the end of the day I'd rather come down on the safe side.I support the moratorium, albeit with very strong reservations.

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RE: Gulf rig owner criticizes Obama's drilling halt - 6/22/2010 12:38:16 PM

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This just leaves me speechless.

Eleven dead workers on his rig, millions of gallons of oil spilling, wildlife dying, small businesses being destroyed, shorelines being ruined, and he has the balls to say there should not be a moratorium to examine the safety issues.

Welcome to the world of special interests and American Individualism. His wish to overturn the moratorium was just upheld in court.

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RE: Gulf rig owner criticizes Obama's drilling halt - 6/22/2010 12:52:36 PM

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Well, at least one judge..the one who matters...agrees.

"U.S. District Court Judge Martin Feldman has ruled in favor of oil related businesses hoping to end a 6-month moratorium on drilling for oil in deepwater. The ruling just came down in New Orleans. "

And the appeal will be filed by the end of the day, or no later than tomorrow morning. 8 of the 33 deepwater rigs in the gulf are still on schedule to leave by the end of the week. Once they're gone, they're gone, and it will probably be years before they all come back.

And that is why a "6 month moratorium" would be such a disaster. It would cripple the industry in the area for years, not 6 months.

And what exactly are going to be the results of this spill?

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RE: Gulf rig owner criticizes Obama's drilling halt - 6/22/2010 1:00:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Well, at least one judge..the one who matters...agrees.

"U.S. District Court Judge Martin Feldman has ruled in favor of oil related businesses hoping to end a 6-month moratorium on drilling for oil in deepwater. The ruling just came down in New Orleans. "

And the appeal will be filed by the end of the day, or no later than tomorrow morning. 8 of the 33 deepwater rigs in the gulf are still on schedule to leave by the end of the week. Once they're gone, they're gone, and it will probably be years before they all come back.

And that is why a "6 month moratorium" would be such a disaster. It would cripple the industry in the area for years, not 6 months.

And what exactly are going to be the results of this spill?

Trivial, unless you work in the oil industry.

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RE: Gulf rig owner criticizes Obama's drilling halt - 6/22/2010 1:07:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Well, at least one judge..the one who matters...agrees.

"U.S. District Court Judge Martin Feldman has ruled in favor of oil related businesses hoping to end a 6-month moratorium on drilling for oil in deepwater. The ruling just came down in New Orleans. "

And that judge seems to have had a conflict of interest which should have required him to recuse himself from the case.

Judge blocks Obama's offshore drilling ban

Feldman's financial disclosure report for 2008, the most recent available, shows holdings in at least eight petroleum companies or companies that invest in them, including Transocean Ltd., which owned the Deepwater Horizon.

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RE: Gulf rig owner criticizes Obama's drilling halt - 6/22/2010 1:08:01 PM

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this is what pisses me off about politicians or people that can't get past their own partisanship...They tend to paint themselves out as asshats.

This is from the barge sucking thread...lol.

It is about Lousiana Gov Jindal. On his website he states this.....

"The release of oil into the Gulf of Mexico is not just about our coast. It is fundamentally about our way of life in Louisiana. Our shrimpers, our fishermen, the coasts that make Louisiana Sportsmen's Paradise - this all makes up Louisiana and this is our way of life. We have to do absolutely everything we can to protect our land, our businesses and our communities."

Then further on his web page we see this little gem....

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PRESS RELEASE

"Office of Governor Jindal Files Brief in Support of Suit Calling for Injunction on Moratorium of Deepwater Drilling

BATON ROUGE (June 21, 2010) - The Office of Governor Jindal filed an amicus brief in the U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Louisiana in support of the removal of the president’s moratorium on deepwater drilling."

These fuckers kill me. "We have to do absolutely everything we can to protect our land, our businesses and our communities". Accept when it comes to stopping the very thing that created the disaster in the first place.

This was no"accident"...The course of action that BP took made the blow out a foregone conclusion. Jindal wants to speak tohis community out of one side of his mouth and to appease the interests of big oil out of the other.

I have a feeling he will become a lot more vocal in his support of big oil than actually worrying about his voting constituents ...You know the..."shrimpers, our fishermen, the coasts that make Louisiana Sportsmen's Paradise - this all makes up Louisiana and this is our way of life."

There is a part of me that really wants to like this guy if he wasn't such a cock sucker.

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