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Tangwystal -> RE: Just a little ill with it! (9/22/2004 12:00:23 AM)

Wow.. I've had some of the same thing happen. If you say "not interested" or "sorry, not going to call you Sir as you aren't my Dom" they call you wannabe's at the least. Some go off on tirades full of insults and swear words and then block you.

I find it to be a good test to thin out the masses tho. They are ones that I would never want to ever talk to again anyway.

It is, however, nice to know that one is not alone in this.. even if it means that other poor subs are being verbally abused by a&&holes too...

Tangwystal




newflowers -> RE: Just a little ill with it! (9/22/2004 11:29:31 AM)

Tangwystal,

I can't count the number of times I've been accused of not being submissive "enough". Recently, in email communication with a dominant, he said he'd like for us to talk on the phone. I sent back a note saying, no problem, give me your phone number and I'll call you. The reponse - No you listen to me, send me you number. (I'm thinking what the hell) So I explain that as I have children living in my home, I do not give my phone number to men I do not know, but will happily call him.

OMG- the temper, the flames, the tanturm.

It is amazing to me that the simplest are the most difficult tests.

newflowers




FirmhandKY -> RE: Just a little ill with it! (9/23/2004 9:11:58 PM)

Very interesting reading.

Personally, people who enjoy this kind of life style aren't any different (at least to me), than the general population. You have the full range of idiots to geniuses, from psychos to gentlemen and ladies.

What makes it so bad for the submissive women is that the ratio of men to women is so high (10 to 1?) on sites like this, and most often it is the less ... ahhh .... shall we say ... mannered? ... men - who have no shame and no compunction (or no clue) of what life is about, much less what Bdsm is about, or what women are about - that easily clog up the email boxes of any woman who admits that she likes a submissive lifestyle.

As a consequence, women get absolutely bombarded with the worst of the life, and the worst of the men, become very suspicious (as they should), and difficult to approach. A case of the bad driving out the good.

Whenever I email a woman, I try very hard to met all her criteria, read her profile and be intelligent and entertaining when I write. No form letters, although sometimes my emails may be short, if the ladies profile is short, or there is only a little there to see if there could be any connection. I get responses a fair amount of times. But If I do get a response, I am looking for the same things that the fem posters here say they are: intelligence, politness, the ability to think coherently .... too often I don't get that. Either because she isn't any of those things ... or she is just worn out from answering all the idiots.

And the comments about looks versus personality ...

I don't want to tick anyone off, but if you think that appearances aren't a factor, and you can base any decisions about how well you will like someone, or find someone sexual exciting based only on personality ... I gotta disagree.

Call me shallow if you must, but there are certain physical characteristics that evolution has hardwired into us to find attractive. Does this mean that everyone must be a ravishing beauty? Does this mean that if you are less than perfect, you have no chance to get a partner based on personality? No, not at all.

In my experience, people of outstanding beauty are often shallower than people of average or sub-average appearance (a generalization). Why? Because, in general, "good looking" people have been able to get along in life, get what they want from other people without mastering all the social skills that a less than "beautiful" person must. When you find a combination of both in a person ... keep em, they are definite winners.

These personal skills are what "less than perfect" people use to entrance and capture the hearts of their partners. These skills are the social equivalent to physical beauty, but more difficult to judge than physical appearance.

But even if you are attuned to these facts, there are still certain people that you may never get to know, who you may never get to learn of their beautiful personalities, because you won't make the effort based on their physical appearance.

Like I said, appreciation of physical appearance is hard wired into the human brain, and is the first criteria that ANYONE uses to judge a potential partner. Personality must be experienced, and verified before it can overcome this fact. Can you honestly tell me that you have never "passed" on a potential partner, based solely on their looks (or lack thereof)?

Why is it so noteworthy when a beautiful woman is seen on the arms of a troll of a man?

Why does everyone chatter when a studly man shows up at a party with a plain jane woman?

Because it is so darn uncommon, that's why!

In a perfect world, it shouldn't be.

Wake me up when the perfect world gets here, ok?

just my $0.02

FHK




subbiejenn -> RE: Just a little ill with it! (9/24/2004 10:04:17 AM)



i would have to agree with FHK.

i am no goddess and i do believe there is more to a person then just looks but there has to be a physical attraction also. i have seen some Men that are gorgeous but not my type. i think Tom cruise is good looking Man but if i met someone who looked just like Him on the street i wouldn't look twice because it isn't my type. i think W/we can all agree that most super models are beautiful but when i think honestly about what is my type it isn't a super model. i tend to like Big Husky Men but that isn't the "generalized" description of a GQ Man.

Point being W/we all like different kinds of people, W/we all have different tastes in what W/we are looking for. There is someone out there for U/us all. W/we may not all get as much of attention as others but that is ok *smiles* Be happy with who you are and you will find that special one who will be also…


Keep up your chin justus... not everyone is looking for super models. Most want an attraction and care what is inside a person...




Suleiman -> RE: Just a little ill with it! (9/24/2004 10:51:41 AM)

Bravo, darling, bravo! I am always one for a sub to stand up and call out the idiots, the egotists, and the wannabe players that seem to flock to this lifestyle under the banner of "dom", believing perhaps that this excuses their otherwise unacceptable behavior.


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ORIGINAL: happypervert

I think its good that this was posted on the submissives board because the responses are mostly other gals sharing their horror stories. I like reading stuff like that because I know I am a neanderthal, but now I get to feel like Prince Charming compared to those bozo guys.


Ditto. I may be an antisocial troll, but even I have more of a clue than this!

~S




zeloma -> RE: Just a little ill with it! (9/26/2004 9:15:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Wake me up when the perfect world gets here, ok?

just my $0.02

FHK



Perhaps instead of sleeping, You might choose to get off Your ass and try to help make one???
Just a thought.




slavejam -> RE: Just a little ill with it! (10/21/2004 12:35:04 PM)

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Wow.. I've had some of the same thing happen. If you say "not interested" or "sorry, not going to call you Sir as you aren't my Dom" they call you wannabe's at the least.


I have had this many times already. Everyone knows where thier TRUE SELF lies.

I commend you for saying what so many think. personally I don't have the guts to say something so straight forward. Glad there are people who can say what they TRULY mean.




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