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Just a little ill with it! - 9/19/2004 12:03:29 PM   
justus


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Status: offline 		Allowing me to step out of my submissive side for a minute (which i don't like to do) WTF??!!??

As i look through profiles of Doms on this site i am greeted by complaints of "faker, wannabe sub, not real subs, subs here delete mail without opening" in the profiles and journals. OH but in what they are looking for they want physially attractive, young, pretty, desirable....HAHAHAHA!
Well as someone who is all the things they want, let me say my piece.

SOME- girls who are physically attractive, young, pretty, blah blah blah, don't need to come find a Master on line. They can find You guys on almost any street corner. SOME of the pretty young subs that you find here want only one thing from You dear Dom; They want to feel wanted and saught after. As long as You are going to feed their need in this why should they give anything else of themselves to You? They can come here, play with Your heart and Your mind and go on about their lives without the complication of You! NO HARM DONE....right???

So You whine and You cry and You go on to the next one that catches Your eye and feed her need to! If You want that girl go down to the street corner!

Meanwhile there are real submissives who are very seriously searching for Someone to love and serve, but You pass them by. Why? Because they are not young or pretty or (oh and this is a fav!) Physically hieght and weight proportioned. These women are beautiful in thier souls and You would have them believe that it would be better if they traded that soul for a great set of legs! SHAME ON YOU! NOW WHO'S PLAYING AT BEING WHAT??!!??

Heres another one for You while i am at it: Some of You Doms want us with no limits, that in itself is fine. Except i think All need a lesson from one slaves profile when she says: "I serve without limits, just as your car might. (Yes, its possible for you to wreck it, overheat it or damage it, but it isn't because the car told you to stop, its because you were driving like a dumbass.) i am useful in that same way." The problem lay in the fact that we can't tell if Your an idiot driver, and therefor can not let You drive for awhile. But if Your willing to spend time sitting in the passanger seat and tell the car were to go, You might find a different road lies within.

And one hit for the pretties out there. You see a pic and forget how to read? Poor lil amani can not even open her mailbox anymore, her Master has to do it! A pic of even a slightly cute sub is open season! BANG BANG BANG! What is wrong with You? You that desperate??? Spank it once...then come look!

Okay I'm done ranting and will get down off my soapbox, Your turn to tear me to shreads, but try not to use faker, or wannabe sub, This girl knows who she is, and there are too many real Doms here Who know as well, believe me, dear reader, You don't!




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RE: Just a little ill with it! - 9/19/2004 12:44:17 PM   
EStrict


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Status: offline 		The only *negative* comment I will make on your post is to ask why you would post it here (ask a submissive) when it seems to be addressed to general or dominants.

If it makes you feel better, I am a good example of the fact that sometimes people discover what they were looking for is not what they desire in the end. I certainly wouldn't use the phrase what they will *settle* for, because I would have trouble serving fully anyone who felt owning me was *settling*.

When I first met Ross, it was online. We met and chatted as friends only. Both were looking to towards somewhere else. After all, I was nothing he was looking for. He loves long legs and wanted a tall woman. I'm 5'2 (though he does think I have good legs). He liked small breasts, and I am 36F. He has discovered it wasn't really size that he was seeking as much as sensitivity, and I *definitely* react to having them played with.....

He prefers dark haired women, I am blonde. He wanted someone who was 5-10 years younger than himself. I am over 3 years older. He wanted to have children. I have fertility issues, and had 2 teens already. Of course, in the end we ended up taking in Race, but that was a surprise to us both :)

He wanted to eventually move back to WI... I have issues with cold and rain.

Taking the time to become friends first, we were both lucky enough to find a relationship that is wonderful for both of us. Ross is the best man I have ever known in my life, but even he had to overcome obstacles. I wasn't much intersted in looks, and he is very intelligent,,, but him being under 40 when we met was a big obstacle. That he had never been married, or even had a very long term relationship was also. The fact was, he was not going to settle for less than he wanted,,, he was just intelligent enough to know that what he *wanted* wasn't written in stone for *all* aspects.

His mom told him he was nuts, he would never find a woman with the qualities he was looking for. Yet, what *he* wanted was everything I have ever craved or needed. That doesn't mean our lives are perfect. Every relationship has up and downs, and unexpected complications. But, when you are REALLY honest with yourself and others, there is always hope that you can find what you need/desire,, even if it's not what you *think* you want.....

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RE: Just a little ill with it! - 9/19/2004 2:58:17 PM   
January


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Status: offline 		Hi justus,

I find it refreshing to hear a sub whine for a change! (Way too many masters come to the boards to complain about ungrateful subs.)

And I agree with you, how come any woman who says no is automatically a wannabe or fake? Sheesh! Can't subs have an opinion or desire--like wanting to live through an encounter?

The only bone I have to pick with you is your statement that the cute sub can find a master on any street corner. Not a master that's worth having, I think! The beautiful, sincere sub doesn't have it any easier than the plain girl with a good heart. I mean, relationships are just tough. Sure, a gorgeous woman can get attention--but consider the source of adoration. If cuteness is all the man cares about, is that really the kind of man you would want?

I think many men are indulging in their fantasies here on collarme. Wishtheycouldbes, I suppose. The unaccomplished man wishes for the perfect subbie beauty as proof of his attractiveness. Either these doms give up, or get really lucky, or become more realistic, or mature.

Anyway, welcome to the boards!

January

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RE: Just a little ill with it! - 9/19/2004 3:19:09 PM   
temptation


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Status: offline 		the other thing I think alot of people miss, is the double standard. that all skinny/pretty/whatever girls are fake.

I've had been match and compare my other profiles on different sites, seeking inconsistancies.. and when they find them. (like my location on b.com is "heaven") they threaten to report me to the site owners/moderators.

its just ridiculous crap like that, and it happens all the time.

So while some people get ignored, others get harassed constantly.

I've been accused multiple times on this site of having plastic or cosmetic surgery, I've been called a fake by a bunch of different people, I've had people call me a "slut/whore" because I'm not seeking a master of some sort.

etc.

on B.com, a long-time friend of mine jokingly one day said I was really a guy, in a thread on the forums called "RUMORS"

and she was instantly swamped by emails asking her if it was true, or people saying "I knew it!" or "I always thought so"

even though the thread was a big sarcastic joke thread, and was labeled as such in the beginning.

People were willing to overlook it, because they want to believe so bad.

or something.


so yeah, life isnt easy for anyone online.

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RE: Just a little ill with it! - 9/19/2004 4:48:15 PM   
Synocense


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quote:

how come any woman who says no is automatically a wannabe or fake? Sheesh! Can't subs have an opinion or desire--like wanting to live through an encounter?


A scary little story. My Master was talking with someone and this person asked if I was his slave. When he told her "yes, I am" she went on to explain how she learned recently that slaves have no right to opinions and shouldn't express their feelings. I think she was actually feeling sorry for me. lol The fact is, like many other wonderful owners, mine encourages me to use my mind, to express my opinions and never hide my true feelings. I wonder who is teaching the contrary. Ouch.

Syn

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RE: Just a little ill with it! - 9/19/2004 5:53:43 PM   
newflowers


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Status: offline 		justus, thanks for a such a thoughtful post. Likewise do I think it should defintely be seen in the Master's section. Unfortunately, I think many of the men who are applicable to this, are not regular posters, but even if they ar readers, this should be seen by them.

Maybe cut and paste.

newflowers

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RE: Just a little ill with it! - 9/19/2004 7:17:20 PM   
theroebabe


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Status: offline 		WHOOHOO you go girl!

i had that happen with people i have known in real life for 4 years say i am not sub because at meetings and demos i dont sit like a sub or talk like one keep my eyes lowered. PLEEEZE folks, i am not the groups sub so nooooooo i am not going to be what i am not.

Same here on line. I am a fiesty wench and if you dont want a fiesty wench thats fine but dont call me a fake.

Thank you for saying whay a lot of us might think!

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RE: Just a little ill with it! - 9/19/2004 8:38:03 PM   
subbiejenn


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Ok ... what really irritates me are e-mails asking questions that are clearly stated in my profile... It's like some of these Doms can't read *rolls eyes*

i actually just had one asking if i like to do something that is on my profile in the "hard limits list" so ummmmmm think not? LOL

Someone mentioned this before and i agree that the Doms who post regularly here are not the Doms in which you speak of. (Some maybe lurking about) i don't think wannabe Doms or looking for just kinky sex Doms are in the forums actually trying to learn and grow in the lifestyle.

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RE: Just a little ill with it! - 9/19/2004 10:23:48 PM   
Synocense


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Status: offline 		I was just laughing the other day about these men who contact me and upon learning I have someone in my life, the conversation switches gears. They begin to ask me "what does he make you do? Do you have to {insert vulgar act here}" Suddenly I am being used for monkey spanking material. Cheapo's! Go buy a magazine. lol

Syn

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RE: Just a little ill with it! - 9/20/2004 5:25:38 AM   
siamsa24


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Status: offline 		I also have Dominant individuals (male and female) do this to me all the time. I usually tell them my Dom's screen name and tell them to contact him because he could give them much more information. He has yet to get a single e-mail.

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RE: Just a little ill with it! - 9/20/2004 7:58:53 AM   
subbiejenn


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quote:

ORIGINAL: siamsa24

I also have Dominant individuals (male and female) do this to me all the time. I usually tell them my Dom's screen name and tell them to contact him because he could give them much more information. He has yet to get a single e-mail.


*giggles*

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RE: Just a little ill with it! - 9/20/2004 8:26:02 AM   
Synocense


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quote:

I also have Dominant individuals (male and female) do this to me all the time. I usually tell them my Dom's screen name and tell them to contact him because he could give them much more information. He has yet to get a single e-mail.


My problem is that despite this happening, I give them the benefit of the doubt. I do this because I nearly slid right over my own Master when he first contacted me online due to the fact I had been bombarded with goofballs and assumed he was just another one. Oopsies! hehe I also do like to help someone understand something if I am able, so by the time I realise I'm being used for masturbation material, I've already wasted time. Burns my bum it does. lol

Syn

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RE: Just a little ill with it! - 9/20/2004 10:25:26 AM   
justus


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Status: offline 		( the girl removes her blouse, skirt and panties and looks all over for injuries, finding none she gets dressed again and says...)

This girl would first like to make apologies to her "young and pretty " sisters for her syntax in her rant. This one had just witnessed the verbal take down of sweetsub0 in a chat room for being overweight. It was very ugly and she took it wondrfully there by making the "dom" seem an ass. Still it made this one angry as a quick look at the girls profile states her weight and several times states she is BBW. This one knows that one personaly and there is not a fake bone in her body. In comming here and posting this, this one was not thinking in those terms, of course not every "pretty, young " submissive is looking for what i said, after all i am not.

As to answer why this was posted here instead of the Master's area? That one is easy. This girl would not take well someone comming to her doorstep to yell at her if they were angry over something she was doing. So she would not do this to someone else. Posting here is more or less my doorstep as i am a submissive. If They choose to ASK this submissive...then that is her opinion.

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RE: Just a little ill with it! - 9/20/2004 11:06:46 AM   
Sundew02


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Status: offline 		I am a Domme, not a Dom. But since you addressed the issue to Doms and seem to be drawing submissive replies. I will step in here. I have not checked out any Dom profiles except when chatting with them here on the boards. But I will tell you this, MANY sub/slave males also put be ht/wt proportional in their profiles as well. Others do it a bit more subtlely, by saying I work out 3 times a week, day, hour whatever, and want a Mistress that does the same. It this every male here? No. You simply need to sit back and watch for the cream to rise to the top. Part of the problem is that some (and I did say some) of the people here post extremely erotic pictures not of themselves, thin,physically beautiful, body perfect. Since they chose to say themselves this is what I dream of, what I think is acceptable, why would the males think differently? It is a human trait to want the "greener" grass. If you walked into a buffet and saw good healthy food on the right, things that would be perfect for you, and your ideal desert on the left knowing more than likely the sugar rush would be gone in an hour and you would be hungry again. Which would you choose first? Do I post the truth about myself? Yes. I have had a number of males that are nice and respectful contact me. I am still searching. I smile when another email comes in asking almost with the first word, what do you look like??? Got a picture to share?? Does that say they are interested in my skills as a Domme?
Relax, enjoy the site and the boards, and welcome justus. Sundew

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RE: Just a little ill with it! - 9/20/2004 12:50:16 PM   
Mercnbeth


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Status: offline 		justus,
All I seek at this site or from anyone I choose to be with in this lifestyle is TRUTH. You're to be commended for listing your true self in the profile. But why would you want anyone, who replies or receives mail to be anything else? You should be happy that they don't waste your time or think they can change you after they've become your Dom or Master.

Does it limit your options? Does it automatically 'disqualify' you from consideration from the plethora of single Doms trolling these sites? Maybe - but it's their lose, not yours and you should treat it that way.

When I met beth she was a smoker. I do not smoke. Like weight, drinking, and drugs; smoking is often another 'disqualifier'. she has tried and tried, in fact she was in the process of 'quiting' when we met. In the past I successfully used D/s as part of a weight loss program for a submissive and was very successful. So I created a 'lifestyle' 12 step program for her quiting, but it was/is not possible. And after a number of VERY tearful sessions of punishment and correction, she begged to be released from that program and I agreed. she is my slave. she still smokes. I still don't like it. But it was part of beth when I met her, and changing someone should NOT be your priority just because they have become your spouse or your collared slave. When/if the time comes I will effectively help her with her addiction, but if I disqualified her after that first meeting, I would have lost more then her.

Merc

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RE: Just a little ill with it! - 9/20/2004 2:15:17 PM   
LadyBeckett


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Status: offline 		Welcome to the message boards, justice. Excellent post. This subject has been covered before, but as with other subjects, it's interesting to get some fresh perspectives on it, and maybe hear how some old ones have changed a bit (if they have).

Online is a part of real life now, like it or not. Even though I still can't seem to go to the bookstore or grocery store without attracting submissive males. I think they have "Domme" radar. I recommend "Time & Space". Take the time to get to know someone, and give one another the space to grow within the relationship. If it isn't "working", say so, and go your seperate ways. It may not be "right", but it doesn't have to be "bad". lol

We all have our basic preferences. I do. I list mine on my profile. When we meet someone, we choose to what degree we will vary from those basics, if at all. Merc, your post is a perfect example of just that. Sandy, I just loved your post!

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RE: Just a little ill with it! - 9/20/2004 2:51:00 PM   
happypervert


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Status: offline 		I think its good that this was posted on the submissives board because the responses are mostly other gals sharing their horror stories. I like reading stuff like that because I know I am a neanderthal, but now I get to feel like Prince Charming compared to those bozo guys.

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RE: Just a little ill with it! - 9/21/2004 11:23:27 AM   
justus


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quote:

ORIGINAL: EStrict

If it makes you feel better, I am a good example of the fact that sometimes people discover what they were looking for is not what they desire in the end. I certainly wouldn't use the phrase what they will *settle* for, because I would have trouble serving fully anyone who felt owning me was *settling*.



If more Doms would "settle" for less then what to Them is perfect, They might find They find perfect isn't what They thought it was. There is no arguement with beauty being in the eye of the beholder. But where is the harm in closing one's eyes for awhile?
Here in cyberspace those who seek physical beauty are looking for love in all the wrong places. I feel confident in saying that most do not wish to be thought of as shallow, most do not think they are shallow. Then They go and prove They are shallow, then expect folks to just ignore it.
I have 4 Doms coming for a getting-to-know-you visit this weekend. They will be staying for 4 days with me. Physicaly: One looks like an older Christopher Reeves. 2 are so-so and one is oogly as sin. Financialy one is poor, 1 is average and 2 are rich. But the qualifier to me is how shallow they are, not what they look like or how much money they have.
I can not tell that from a pic or a bank statement.

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RE: Just a little ill with it! - 9/21/2004 11:55:22 AM   
sweetpleaser


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Status: offline 		Good luck this weekend and give us details.

BTW, how did you get 4 MEN to agree to meet you on the same weekend? You go girl!

ann

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RE: Just a little ill with it! - 9/21/2004 3:06:04 PM   
sweetsub0


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Status: offline 		This girl would like to thank you justus for the defence, now T/those who did not actually witness the harrange this girl recieved from Him personaly, can come here to read about it....lol
YES THANX SO MUCH GIRL FREIND!!

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