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Have to see it to believe it - 6/23/2010 5:27:06 PM   
DomKen


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From: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/06/22/damn/




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RE: Have to see it to believe it - 6/23/2010 5:41:12 PM   
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What am I supposed to see here?

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RE: Have to see it to believe it - 6/23/2010 5:51:41 PM   
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RE: Have to see it to believe it - 6/23/2010 5:53:00 PM   
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RE: Have to see it to believe it - 6/23/2010 5:54:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		On the bright side the mermaids are fucking ecstatic, if you thought gas prices were high in the US imagine what they were like in Atlantis before they got this wonderful windfall.

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RE: Have to see it to believe it - 6/23/2010 5:59:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Funny you say Atlantis.  I wondered how that fits into this mess.

I heard a couple of rumours.

1.Jack Mclamb- says someone posing as BLM set off a bomb on the rig.

2. the spill is on purpose to punish red states who would resist NWO.

3. it is an excuse to push the global carbin tax.



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RE: Have to see it to believe it - 6/23/2010 7:16:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's just horrible.  And if that isn't enough, they've been watching the possibility of a hurricane moving into the gulf next week.  Possibly making landfall in the Louisiana area.

http://www.accuweather.com/video/101500290001/hurricane-in-the-gulf-next-week.asp

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RE: Have to see it to believe it - 6/23/2010 10:35:20 PM   
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To that I say, right now I am going through a careful bankrupcy, a DUI and filing for disability because I am half blind. But I will pay an extra dollar a gallon to avoid buying BP gasoline. They are down to $1.85 a gallon around here. That is almost a buck off.

Next step is what I said in another post. Take all the property owned by BP or their execs located on US soil or water and dump it in that gunk. Forfeiture laws apply to us, so fuck them. Then use it as a garbage dump, because it is over. Send those barges from NYC down there. It is wrecked and we might as well get used to it. There is no cleaning that up. It is a permanent loss as far as I can discern. Sure, it will bounce back, but that'll take probably a hundred fucking years.

Ever build, modify or handle weapons ? You make SURE. You don't guess and you don't cut corners. This is so fucking bad describing it even taxes my wealth of adjectives. When pulling into a parking spot, you make SURE. Shit, if I buy a case of beer I put it the floor of the car to make SURE it does not fall down.

I don't know what else to say. They'll write me a ticket, or try to if I have a big bonfire in my own backyard. They will put you in jail for starting a forest fire even if you prove that it is a total accident, even to the rare extent that it really wasn't your fault at all. What have they done about this ?

Fuck all these assholes.

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RE: Have to see it to believe it - 6/23/2010 10:40:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

What am I supposed to see here?




See the dark blue spot in the picture in the upper right? That's water..that's what it all should look like. The rest is all oil. That is seriously sad and I can't even begin to guess how much longterm devastation it will cause.

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RE: Have to see it to believe it - 6/24/2010 9:22:43 AM   
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Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words.

From: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/06/22/damn/


Well that certainly puts things in perspective. Utterly tragic and worrisome. I was never a fan of his acting, but Costner's centrifuges are welcome. Unfortunately it seems we'll need a few more, as well as barges.

Let's hope the seabed's integrity doesn't completely give way, making the spill impossible to stop. I dread thinking about what an unstoppable oil leak under the ocean would do to the ecosystem at large.

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RE: Have to see it to believe it - 6/24/2010 11:07:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
What am I supposed to see here?

See the dark blue spot in the picture in the upper right? That's water..that's what it all should look like. The rest is all oil. That is seriously sad and I can't even begin to guess how much longterm devastation it will cause.

We should find out who's remit it is to take care of that blue spot and transfer the knowledge he has to the rest of the gulf and those inland water areas also shown as grey (that have no immediate connection to the gulf).


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RE: Have to see it to believe it - 6/24/2010 11:53:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		If that photo were from NASA with someone reliable providing the expert analysis I would believe it, but since this is from a far left blog its questionable. There are a lot of factors that go into judging a photo such as this, like what time of day a picture is taken, what filters are used, was it photoshopped, etc.

Lets see something similar from CNN or UPI before leaping to conclusions.


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RE: Have to see it to believe it - 6/24/2010 12:04:32 PM   
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On Saturday, June 19, 2010, oil spread northeast from the leaking Deepwater Horizon well in the Gulf of Mexico. The oil appears as a maze of silvery-gray ribbons in this photo-like image from the Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) on NASA’s Aqua satellite. The location of the leaking well is marked with a white dot. North of the well, a spot of black may be smoke; reports from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration say that oil and gas continue to be captured and burned as part of the emergency response efforts. The large image provided above is at MODIS’ maximum spatial resolution (level of detail). Twice-daily images of the Gulf of Mexico are available from the MODIS Rapid Response Team in additional resolutions and formats, including a georeferenced version that can be used in Google Earth

Its been at nasa all along


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RE: Have to see it to believe it - 6/24/2010 1:48:33 PM   
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If that photo were from NASA with someone reliable providing the expert analysis I would believe it, but since this is from a far left blog its questionable. There are a lot of factors that go into judging a photo such as this, like what time of day a picture is taken, what filters are used, was it photoshopped, etc.

Lets see something similar from CNN or UPI before leaping to conclusions.



I would honestly love to find out that photo was a conspiracy from "the left". In some ways the culture behind socialized environmentalism of today can be construed as the new religion of the modern age, and the demographic it represents can be politically exploited. I get that. The scope of this debacle, however, is as real as it gets. I don't care about the left or right; I just want it fixed. Pursue public hangings later.

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RE: Have to see it to believe it - 6/24/2010 2:38:14 PM   
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RE: Have to see it to believe it - 6/24/2010 4:23:27 PM   
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Thank you Lucy. I know that the Mississippi is a hell of a muddy river.

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http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=44375
On Saturday, June 19, 2010, oil spread northeast from the leaking Deepwater Horizon well in the Gulf of Mexico. The oil appears as a maze of silvery-gray ribbons in this photo-like image from the Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) on NASA’s Aqua satellite. The location of the leaking well is marked with a white dot. North of the well, a spot of black may be smoke; reports from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration say that oil and gas continue to be captured and burned as part of the emergency response efforts. The large image provided above is at MODIS’ maximum spatial resolution (level of detail). Twice-daily images of the Gulf of Mexico are available from the MODIS Rapid Response Team in additional resolutions and formats, including a georeferenced version that can be used in Google Earth

Its been at nasa all along



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RE: Have to see it to believe it - 6/24/2010 6:27:23 PM   
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If that photo were from NASA with someone reliable providing the expert analysis I would believe it, but since this is from a far left blog its questionable. There are a lot of factors that go into judging a photo such as this, like what time of day a picture is taken, what filters are used, was it photoshopped, etc.

Lets see something similar from CNN or UPI before leaping to conclusions.


Phil Plait is far left? Been reading the badastronomy blog for years and couldn't say what his politics are beyond being against bad science and for good science.

BTW the picture is from NASA. (which would have been pretty damned obvious if you had followed the link to original post as it is credited there)

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RE: Have to see it to believe it - 6/25/2010 1:55:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		One wonders what you believe it might have looked like by now? Where are we, nearly ten weeks on?

Are you sure its the Mississippi you found in the photo and not that river that flows through Africa to the Med at the Egyptian coast?

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RE: Have to see it to believe it - 6/25/2010 2:03:22 AM   
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If that photo were from NASA with someone reliable providing the expert analysis I would believe it, but since this is from a far left blog its questionable.


Wow, Discover magazine is far left!!! That's news to me...

Actually i shouldn't be surprised...

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RE: Have to see it to believe it - 6/25/2010 5:30:19 AM   
Sanity


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" Blogs / Bad Astronomy"

And theres your first clue.

The second clue would be the suggestion that everything you see in the photo is oil. The situation is bad enough without these wild-eyed far left freaks deliberately exaggerating the problem.



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