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Brain -> Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies (6/23/2010 6:18:46 PM)

The Judge had a financial interest in lifting the ban. He didn't recuse himself as a moral and ethical Judge should do. Why would anyone approve of a corrupt Judge?



Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies

The federal judge who lifted Obama's six-month drilling moratorium had interests in Transocean and a number of other offshore energy companies, according to financial disclosure forms from 2008.

Martin Feldman, a U.S. District Court Judge for the Eastern District of Louisiana, held energy stocks in Transocean and Halliburton, as well as two of BP's largest U.S. private shareholders -- BlackRock and JP Morgan Chase. The law Feldman overturned would have halted the approval of any new permits and suspended deepwater drilling at 33 existing exploratory wells in the Gulf, four of which are BP rigs.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/22/judge-who-lifted-moratori_n_621501.html




dcnovice -> RE: Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies (6/23/2010 6:26:42 PM)

Bloomberg: "Transocean Ltd., which leased the Deepwater Horizon to BP Plc, jumped as much as 3.5 percent yesterday in New York Stock Exchange composite trading after the decision was announced."




kdsub -> RE: Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies (6/23/2010 6:44:11 PM)

I can sure see both sides for and against this ruling...can't you. This is no undercover oil payoff.. it was a tough call and could have gone either way.

Butch




rulemylife -> RE: Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies (6/23/2010 7:12:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I can sure see both sides for and against this ruling...can't you. This is no undercover oil payoff.. it was a tough call and could have gone either way.

Butch


No I can't.

As I posted on another thread, the judge had a conflict of interest if he still held those shares and should have withdrawn from the case.

That in itself is a clear basis for appeal. 




kdsub -> RE: Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies (6/23/2010 8:15:05 PM)

If the food in your children’s mouth...or the roof over their heads depended on this ruling you would think different... You are part of the problem in this world... Not trying to envision the results of your arbitrary line of thought. Take off your blinders and think of both sides of a position. It will at least allow you to understand how other people think and why they take an opposing position to you.

Butch




Brain -> RE: Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies (6/23/2010 8:25:52 PM)


Either way? I don't see how he can let them drill for oil again when they haven't stopped the catastrophe going on in the Gulf right now. First do something about the disaster and then maybe he can think about letting drilling take place again.

quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

I can sure see both sides for and against this ruling...can't you. This is no undercover oil payoff.. it was a tough call and could have gone either way.

Butch





joether -> RE: Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies (6/23/2010 8:28:56 PM)

The evidence sounds like a conflict of interest. 2008, the judge held an investment in several oil companies (including those related to the disaster). If those same investments are still current, THAT, would be a conflict of interest! It looks like the judge needs to make public his current investments (full record for the last year). Likewise, this judge should be investigated.





Brain -> RE: Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies (6/23/2010 8:38:55 PM)



What about putting food in the mouths of the fisherman and the people who work in tourism? Who is going to put food in their mouths? The obvious answer is that those people need to get jobs producing the energy of the future, like from wind and solar. I just don't understand this ridiculous obsession with using oil and polluting and destroying the planet.


quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

If the food in your children’s mouth...or the roof over their heads depended on this ruling you would think different... You are part of the problem in this world... Not trying to envision the results of your arbitrary line of thought. Take off your blinders and think of both sides of a position. It will at least allow you to understand how other people think and why they take an opposing position to you.

Butch





kdsub -> RE: Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies (6/23/2010 8:59:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: joether

The evidence sounds like a conflict of interest. 2008, the judge held an investment in several oil companies (including those related to the disaster). If those same investments are still current, THAT, would be a conflict of interest! It looks like the judge needs to make public his current investments (full record for the last year). Likewise, this judge should be investigated.




I'm not talking about the conflict of interest of the judge... I am talking about the issue itself...see what I mean?

Butch




kdsub -> RE: Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies (6/23/2010 9:04:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Brain



What about putting food in the mouths of the fisherman and the people who work in tourism? Who is going to put food in their mouths? The obvious answer is that those people need to get jobs producing the energy of the future, like from wind and solar. I just don't understand this ridiculous obsession with using oil and polluting and destroying the planet.


quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

If the food in your children’s mouth...or the roof over their heads depended on this ruling you would think different... You are part of the problem in this world... Not trying to envision the results of your arbitrary line of thought. Take off your blinders and think of both sides of a position. It will at least allow you to understand how other people think and why they take an opposing position to you.

Butch




Yes there are points on both sides of the issue...but there is only one leaking well...This stoppage will just make the situation worse...a greater economic impact... At least this must be considered and I can see both sides… I can’t believe you can’t as well.

I'm just gald I am not having to make a ruling.

Butch




Termyn8or -> RE: Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies (6/23/2010 10:03:23 PM)

"I'm not talking about the conflict of interest of the judge... I am talking about the issue itself...see what I mean? "

That don't wash here. If you are the judge and trying a child killer, if the defendent killed YOUR child you recuse yourself from the case. Tell me how this issue is different.

T




laurell3 -> RE: Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies (6/23/2010 10:08:27 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

If the food in your children’s mouth...or the roof over their heads depended on this ruling you would think different... You are part of the problem in this world... Not trying to envision the results of your arbitrary line of thought. Take off your blinders and think of both sides of a position. It will at least allow you to understand how other people think and why they take an opposing position to you.

Butch


You're talking about the merits of the ruling. This judge wasn't qualified to even get there. Judges recuse themselves based on investments all the time, this guy most definitely should know better.




Politesub53 -> RE: Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies (6/24/2010 2:39:24 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

If the food in your children’s mouth...or the roof over their heads depended on this ruling you would think different... You are part of the problem in this world... Not trying to envision the results of your arbitrary line of thought. Take off your blinders and think of both sides of a position. It will at least allow you to understand how other people think and why they take an opposing position to you.

Butch


It`s a shame many dont view the bailout in the same way huh. I agree the judge should have stepped aside here, he clearly had a major conflict of interests.




subrob1967 -> RE: Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies (6/24/2010 4:22:27 AM)

Sounds like the judge would fit right in Congress...He should have excused himself.




RacerJim -> RE: Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies (6/24/2010 4:33:17 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Brain



What about putting food in the mouths of the fisherman and the people who work in tourism? Who is going to put food in their mouths? The obvious answer is that those people need to get jobs producing the energy of the future, like from wind and solar. I just don't understand this ridiculous obsession with using oil and polluting and destroying the planet.


quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

If the food in your children’s mouth...or the roof over their heads depended on this ruling you would think different... You are part of the problem in this world... Not trying to envision the results of your arbitrary line of thought. Take off your blinders and think of both sides of a position. It will at least allow you to understand how other people think and why they take an opposing position to you.

Butch







SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies (6/24/2010 4:37:28 AM)

I'm of the belief that decisions of this nature should be taken my committee majority, then you can somewhat avoid this special interest debacle.

Obama as a single individual imposed the moratorium and the Judge as a single individual (from what I'm aware), removed it. There is something wrong in any situation where single individuals are making decisions. Apart from perhaps where you need decisive action due to a potential threat such as drilling..




RacerJim -> RE: Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies (6/24/2010 4:46:30 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice

Bloomberg: "Transocean Ltd., which leased the Deepwater Horizon to BP Plc, jumped as much as 3.5 percent yesterday in New York Stock Exchange composite trading after the decision was announced."


The complete, contextual paragraph from that Bloomberg.com article:

"Transocean Ltd., which leased the Deepwater Horizon to BP Plc, jumped as much as 3.5 percent yesterday in New York Stock Exchange composite trading after the decision was announced. Hornbeck Offshore Services Inc., which brought the suit, surged as much as 11 percent. Both later retreated, with Transocean shares down $1.42, or 2.6 percent, to $52.49 and Hornbeck down 24 cents, or 1.5 percent, to $15.32 at yesterday’s closing." [my emphasis]

Next?




RacerJim -> RE: Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies (6/24/2010 5:02:03 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Brain

The Judge had a financial interest in lifting the ban. He didn't recuse himself as a moral and ethical Judge should do. Why would anyone approve of a corrupt Judge?



Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies

The federal judge who lifted Obama's six-month drilling moratorium had interests in Transocean and a number of other offshore energy companies, according to financial disclosure forms from 2008.

Martin Feldman, a U.S. District Court Judge for the Eastern District of Louisiana, held energy stocks in Transocean and Halliburton, as well as two of BP's largest U.S. private shareholders -- BlackRock and JP Morgan Chase. The law Feldman overturned would have halted the approval of any new permits and suspended deepwater drilling at 33 existing exploratory wells in the Gulf, four of which are BP rigs.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/22/judge-who-lifted-moratori_n_621501.html



From that very same Huffington Post article:

"It's unclear whether Feldman still owns the stocks but his comments during his ruling today were telling, 'Oil and gas production is quite simply elemental to Gulf communities.' "

Unless/until it's clear that the Judge owned the stocks when he ruled on the case there was no reason for him to have recused himself, and that his factual/truthful comments about what the oil industry means to the Gulf was telling to the Huffington Post is telling of the Huffington Post. :-(




tazzygirl -> RE: Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies (6/24/2010 6:32:58 AM)

Wed Jun 23, 2:53 pm ET
Yesterday we reported that 2008 financial disclosures showed that U.S. District Judge Martin Feldman, who issued an injunction yesterday barring enforcement of President Obama's proposed moratorium on deepwater drilling, owned stock in a variety of oil drilling companies that could have been affected by the ban. A review of federal court records by Yahoo! News shows that Feldman continued to hold at least some of those stocks as recently as May of 2010.

Feldman's 2008 financial disclosure—the most recent one released—shows that Feldman owned oil stocks including Transocean, Parker Drilling, Hercules Offshore, and Halliburton. It's unclear, however, how many of these stocks Feldman continues to own. Judge Feldman's 2009 disclosure was filed "within the last couple of days," according to the U.S. Judicial Conference's Committee on Financial Disclosure, but hasn't been processed for release yet. Though Yahoo! News, Mother Jones, and the Associated Press have all reported that past ownership, Judge Feldman's office has declined to comment.

Feldman's own disclosures in cases he presided over involving the oil industry, though, confirm that he continued to own at least some of that stock as recently at May 2010. They also indicate that he may have sold some of it.

In May 2010, Feldman disclosed ownership of stock in Ocean Energy Inc. Feldman's 2008 disclosure included an investment in a company called Ocean Energy Notes totaling between $15,000 and $50,000. In the case of this particularly disclosure, Feldman believed that Ocean Energy may have been owned by Transocean, one of parties in two different cases he was hearing, and requested that the lawyers involved look into the possible conflict. They advised him that Ocean Energy was not a subsidiary of Transocean.

That Feldman did not also disclose an ownership in Transocean itself while being careful to investigate that possible link would seem to indicate that he had by that point sold the $1,000-to-$15,000 worth of stock he disclosed in 2008. Strangely, though, Feldman did not inquire about the possible Ocean Energy/Transocean link when presiding over another Transocean case just a few months earlier in November 2009.

Feldman also presided over two cases involving Hercules Offshore, a contract drilling firm that, according to his 2008 disclosure, he held between $1,000 and $15,000 worth of stock in. (The disclosure forms only group investments in broad ranges of their worth, not by any fixed value). He did not disclose an investment in Hercules in either case, both of which were filed in late 2009. Whether he failed to disclose a conflict or had already sold his stock in Hercules Offshore is unknown.

Calls to attorneys in the cases involving Transocean and Hercules were not immediately returned. Feldman's office has declined to respond to inquiries about Judge Feldman's stock holdings and disclosures. A woman answering the phone in Feldman's office simply said, "he is referring people to the 2009 disclosure, which you can get from Washington." When we noted that the disclosures from that year are still awaiting release—and that under the U.S. Judiciary Committee's rules, Feldman must be notified of any requests for its release—she assured Yahoo! News that she would get that message to him.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100623/ts_ynews/ynews_ts2795_1

I see a definite problem with this Judge.




THELADY -> RE: Judge Who Overturned Obama's Ban on Drilling in the Gulf Has Ties to Offshore Drilling Companies (6/24/2010 7:03:20 AM)

Someone really had to dig to find something to discredit that judge .

Every judge has money invested in a variety of places, just like My little IRA has a varity of investments. IF the judge was a major player in the co. in question there would be a question. HOWERVER,
if his involvment is part of his investment portfolio.. peeeeshaw!!

when a plane crashes does the president stop all flights? when a mining accident occus does the pres stop all mining? when an oil ship wrecks, stop all oil ships? a sugar factory in georgia exploded last year......stop all sugar production..... after all, sugar is not good for ya, it makes all people fat.

The MAIN focus should be on stoping and cleaning up, not the future, not how it happened, not who can be blamed or held responsible.....all that can be dealt with later.

NOW, AT THIS TIME, people should be asking WHY the president would turn down help from at least 15 countries and over 100 skimmers that could have been working overtime on the spill! Why would he be more concerned with stopping all drilling instead of stopping the leak?

Stopping the leak does not fit into his agenda, if the oil causes headaches people will think he's doing something good by passing cap and trade to get us off oil. Never realizing they are being screwed!

oil does not just make gas for cars, it is used in so many aspects of our lives....
it goes into the production of plastics, materials, medicans, makeup, ect ect

The prices will skyrocket with cap and trade bill....... gas prices will go up, and so will the price of everything delivered to the stores as well as a rise in the price of any oil based product.

If ya want to question someone's connections, check out Obama and BP...
The adminstration ignored safety violations on that rig 6 months ago and gave them an award!1! BP helped write the cap and trade bill in exchange for privalages. It has not yet come out what those privalages are. But, the same thing happened with GE, they helped push the health care and they get the contract to refit the system with programs to get all dr.s 'online'.




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