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RE: Cock of the Block - 4/14/2006 9:20:35 PM   
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I concur with Whiterabbit on this...and darn I wish I had something more to add to it......To Kevin..dont worry, your form of charm can also be appealing ,a bit of little boy,wrapped up in a lot of goofiness,a tiny bit of insecurity,and a lot of devilish charm,ruled by a barely hidden sadist,with a ton of imagination.Just be who you are,unapologeticially Kevin....be well..Tempting

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RE: Cock of the Block - 4/14/2006 10:37:42 PM   
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Hmmm . . .

Ego. . . as in egocentric. . . turn off

Cocky because you just kicked my butt in a game of pool. . . fun and playful

Cocky because you are pretending to know more about a subject than you do (esp. when it is obvious). . . HUGE turn off

Assertive. . . turn on

Aggressive (in certain situations *weg*). . . . a HUGE turn on

Aggressive because you think you can intimidate me. . . well, ya see that horse you came in on?  Well, go "F" yourself and that horse you rode in on

Quietly self-assured. . . comforting and calming

Audacity. . .  Oh YEAH!

Secure in yourself. . . priceless

Hope that helps.


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RE: Cock of the Block - 4/14/2006 10:50:53 PM   
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I am not sure if this would be considered cockiness or how it would be classified...  I like a man who is direct, blunt, has strong opinions and is comfortable sharing them.  I like a man who knows what he wants and isn't afraid to demand it.  Is that just confidence, cocky or maybe even an asshole?  Whatever it is, I like it.  *g*

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RE: Cock of the Block - 4/14/2006 10:59:15 PM   
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I dunno... there's a difference between being confident, cocky and just being a plain asshole. It's nice to see one who is confident. One who carries themself with a certain cocky attitude way about them. And even in the way they present themselves with they approach. Shame when SOME open their mouths though.... shit falls out.... LOL

(Use fast reply, not ment to post off no one on here.... just my own thoughts here)

Oh and Cin.. Auntie True send you a grannysmith... sense no one gave you one in other thread... LOL

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RE: Cock of the Block - 4/14/2006 11:09:05 PM   
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Oh thanks, True!! They're so cruuuuunchy!!

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RE: Cock of the Block - 4/14/2006 11:33:33 PM   
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One woman's "man with an ego" is another woman's McDreamy.

This may surprise some but I often come across as quite cocky and arrogant, but when you get to know me I am just cocky and well maybe a tiny bit arrogant.

Funny thing is, it works for some and not others, pretty much how life works.

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RE: Cock of the Block - 4/14/2006 11:54:55 PM   
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.... but I often come across as quite cocky and arrogant, but when you get to know me I am just cocky and well maybe a tiny bit arrogant.


.... I often come across as an asshole *w*  it helps keep the groupies away..... but when you get to know me... well that is for a select few to know... and if one is perceptive enough... they likely will find out.

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RE: Cock of the Block - 4/15/2006 12:15:02 AM   
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Confidence is a natural Alpha - Cockiness (not attractive) is a Beta bitting up from the bottom for respect - My Dom and I had this conversation recently- too funny.  Even if you are undecided - be real -  much better than the bottom.

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RE: Cock of the Block - 4/15/2006 2:15:59 AM   
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OMG Cin.... you are feeling brave tonight... put some newspaper down for Kevin and swat his ass next time.. don't just rub his nose in it.... lmao


omg you two have me cracking up!  i say rub his nose in it!

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RE: Cock of the Block - 4/15/2006 3:07:16 AM   
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Maybe Sean Connery (especially in his James Bond heyday) would be the shining example of uber-confidence, stopping before reaching "cocky"? I dunno...
 
As for liking people that are direct and strongly opinionated (and kyra, I'm not taking a swipe at you, either ), I've found most folks that say they like those things change their mind when that bluntness is aimed in their direction lol. God love those that truly do care for honesty and strong opinions though, you help make the world go around.
 

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RE: Cock of the Block - 4/15/2006 4:30:03 AM   
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Maybe Sean Connery (especially in his James Bond heyday) would be the shining example of uber-confidence, stopping before reaching "cocky"? I dunno...
 


Your on the Money with that one Level! 
Just cant imagine him strutting around and preening.

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RE: Cock of the Block - 4/15/2006 4:45:22 AM   
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It's All subjective. And there are so many examples out there of what's "attractive." Concrete examples? Limited examples off the top of my head might be (And I am talking character here, not looks): Think actor Gregory Peck in the movie To Kill A Mockingbird.

Does anyone know who the actor Timothy Dalton is? (he played HeathCliff in a film version of Wuthering Heights. He played James Bond once, too).

Sean Connery is sexy, no doubt about it. I don't think brains are necessarily a subsitute for having good judgment. I know meteorologists who wouldn't probably have their own homes prepared for "the big one" (Earthquake -even if they'd predicted it was coming  -it's just an analogy but, know what I mean)?

When I was about 11 years old I had a huge crush on 1950-60's horror movie king Vincent Price (what a subtle, calming voice he had. Made me melt every time I heard it. He's dead now (sniff). So is Richard Burton. Peter O'Toole.
The list could go on and on. Regardless of their appearance their character was so - I don't know - durable. (an Actor was mentioned so I'm going with actors). 

*The main thing that sparked me about these actors' characters was that -
I consistently got the impression they could just handle themselves - and consequently - anything anyone else was worried about just wasn't going to be much of a problem for them.  That is very calming (not to be confused with 'Daddy Dom-ness' though I know it could work there too, but it's not necessarily what I am describing (as a personal preference, though that label can be "fluid", shall we say).

Not the same thing, either, as not having tough moments or being maybe sorely challenged sometimes but - they seemed to have courage (I know Vincent Price might sound weird but he was building a human clone in his basement lab in several of his movies, and "everyone else" thought he was nuts. He was doing it anyway).  

Very calming characters, but smoldering with intensity, even if its sometimes just under the surface.Give the impression being near them will spark deeper and deeper devotion; they'd have one so mesmerized they'll simply just Believe.

They appeared devoted to seeking and discovery of whatever they were curious about or deeply believed in - and in a pretty intense way. 
A man I was in a relationship for a year who introduced me to this life had those qualities. They knew what they wanted and pursued it.

Smart, maybe but mostly Wise. This does not preclude a sense of humor (not at all. No sense of humor is having one less tool that can be used for so much good in tough moments and just everyday life.They had one and knew when to use it and knew how to have fun. 

Corny illustration of devotion to a dream or belief but here's one: Like Fox Mulder on the "X-Files") they believe that even if perhaps nobody else believes what they do, the pure intensity of their own belief and willingness to doggedly pursue it, despite obstacles (even if that might not always look like what they're doing), is a quality admired so much it increases faith that "the Truth is out there" (that show had millions of viewers and still does even in re-runs. He had that poster in the office that said "I Want To Believe".(I realize life is not a movie. Nor am I a Charles Manson fan if that is the impression I am creating here. I am just trying be "concrete").

Gave the impression they'd just keep looking for ______(it) and it didn't matter all that much what anyone else said about it, really. Maybe a bit secretive (but not "stand-offish" or "cold"(there is a difference). Sometimes, maybe, they'd really like to "tell you more"  -but if they did, they might have to kill you - hehe(joke). 

Whatever it is they are looking for might be buried in a tunnel nobody else believes exists 5oo feet underground. But they will find it - dig through the Earth with an old kitchen spoon if they have to - with no help from anybody else, if necessary, thank you very much.Then come up back up to the surface after they've found their pot of gold or treasure, and mention, under their breath that they didn't really need anyone else's help anyway (not that they would have let you help if you'd asked. They knew what they were doing all along...(well, maybe not all the time, but much of the time -if they didn't - you're not going to know. And if you do, you better not say that. Not that they will destroy you for it , or even scream or yell but - they will remember. They know when to be kind, but can create the impression  that you better become (if you're not already) a quick(er) study. Is that "cocky" Not to me when they know learning is a process.   

Preferences can change I am supposing, if someone is exposed to a person helps them smash any stereotypes they hold about what they consider intensely attractive ... If one doesn't believe a person has confidence, why would they want them to be their Dom or Master in the first place?

I think people can spark eachother's confidence by focusing on thier good qualities and then maybe they grow like wildfire (who knows). Anything is possible.I need to think about this more. Good question.  

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RE: Cock of the Block - 4/15/2006 4:48:45 AM   
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I don't care what label one hangs on it, someone who is confident in himself but can also back that confidence up to the wall is extremely attractive.  The trick is understanding that just because he can walk the talk on some things, he shouldn't on others .  Another thing is knowing it doesn't have to be "in her face".  Subtlety works GREAT. 

More important, however, is to just be yourself, Kevin. 

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RE: Cock of the Block - 4/15/2006 7:46:14 AM   
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As for liking people that are direct and strongly opinionated (and kyra, I'm not taking a swipe at you, either ), I've found most folks that say they like those things change their mind when that bluntness is aimed in their direction lol. God love those that truly do care for honesty and strong opinions though, you help make the world go around.


No swipe perceived at all, Level.  I don't think that anyone who has exposure to my Lord would dispute the fact that I am intimately exposed everyday to someone who is extremely direct, blunt and has strong opinions, so I can say with authority that they are qualities I admire.  I have many of those qualities too, so it can make for some interesting discussions between us.

I have had the same experience, that many can dish it out or enjoy it when it is not directed at them.  However, they do seem to change their mind rather quickly when it happens to them.  I have also noticed that many times the things that irritate us most in others, is something we do as well.  That is why that before I rant, vent, whine or complain about something, I always take a look to see if someone could say the same things about me.

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RE: Cock of the Block - 4/15/2006 7:51:25 AM   
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As for liking people that are direct and strongly opinionated (and kyra, I'm not taking a swipe at you, either ), I've found most folks that say they like those things change their mind when that bluntness is aimed in their direction lol. God love those that truly do care for honesty and strong opinions though, you help make the world go around.


No swipe perceived at all, Level.  I don't think that anyone who has exposure to my Lord would dispute the fact that I am intimately exposed everyday to someone who is extremely direct, blunt and has strong opinions, so I can say with authority that they are qualities I admire.  I have many of those qualities too, so it can make for some interesting discussions between us.

I have had the same experience, that many can dish it out or enjoy it when it is not directed at them.  However, they do seem to change their mind rather quickly when it happens to them.  I have also noticed that many times the things that irritate us most in others, is something we do as well.  That is why that before I rant, vent, whine or complain about something, I always take a look to see if someone could say the same things about me.

Knight's kyra


I believe you *smiles*. Neither of you come across as shrinking violets, and you have well-thought out opinions, as well. Makes for good posts.
 
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RE: Cock of the Block - 4/15/2006 11:35:30 AM   
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I've found most folks that say they like those things change their mind when that bluntness is aimed in their direction lol. God love those that truly do care for honesty and strong opinions though, you help make the world go around.


It has been my experience that those individuals that change their minds in these situations is a result of their own lack of confidence and/or insecurities. Often such inidividuals become defensive and feel intimidated when the directness is aimed at themselves.  It is one thing when such directness is attacking or negative judgements.  It is an entirely different thing when one is put on the spot by direct questions that require one to communicate their position so it can be understood.  Too ofen those with confidence and insecurity issues will see them as one and the same, when they are actually very different.  But, that is what happens when one talks more than they think.




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RE: Cock of the Block - 4/15/2006 1:22:57 PM   
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To me, someone who is "cocky-funny" is a good thing, and showing self-confidence.  Someone who is "cocky-abrasive" is generally insecure, although not always.

Personally, I am generally a quiet person, and that is sometimes mistaken as being less than self-assured.  The reality is that I prefer a "cocky-abrasive" person to dig their own hole before I dump them into it, and shovel in the dirt.

Because I bet my "cocky-abrasive" is bigger than your "cocky-abrasive".






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RE: Cock of the Block - 4/15/2006 4:52:44 PM   
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I concur with Whiterabbit on this...and darn I wish I had something more to add to it......To Kevin..dont worry, your form of charm can also be appealing ,a bit of little boy,wrapped up in a lot of goofiness,a tiny bit of insecurity,and a lot of devilish charm,ruled by a barely hidden sadist,with a ton of imagination.Just be who you are,unapologeticially Kevin....be well..Tempting


Thank you Tempting...I really like the way you see me...quite accurate and I do appreciate it.
My sweet LaMalinche.....You suck in pool and that horse I rode in......well, I'll use the buggy whip on you instead.
KnightsofMist....I hear you Bro and I can relate!

Peace, Kevin

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