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RE: Autism - 6/27/2010 4:55:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Autism isn't a disorder that defines those who have it. Whilst some of the kids I worked with were functioning at the more profound end of the spectrum and struggled more with even the most basic of tasks (a simple thing like expressing even the most excrutiating pain was beyond some) and others were closer to the level of function that your neighbour's 22 year old displayed, they were all individuals with autism. One of the girls (rarer to find girls on the spectrum) I worked with was an absolute pixie and in the early part of my time in the unit I used to try to excuse her naughty behaviour as part of her ASD but the head told me to start thinking of her as a naughty girl with autism rather than a girl whose autism manifests in naughty behaviour. It was one of those *oh yeah..* moments for me.... I'd stripping her of her identity by allowing the autism to creep into every thought. Like blondes or redheads or tall people or whateverwhatever, the preconceptions can be patronising at best, damning at worst.

I'm not trying to hippy preach - just saying that whilst some elements of the disorder do tend to appear frequently in the individuals who have it and, although it's never a bad thing to seek information on any subject, it's hugely important not to try to pre judge what autism 'looks like'.

yours, struggling to find words to wrap around my thoughts today!
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RE: Autism - 6/27/2010 5:28:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Term... trying to diagnose yourself by associating with aspects of a condition most likely isn't going to give you any real answers.  Not accurate ones, anyway.  For example, just from things you've written here you might fall into any of these three conditions...

Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Psychopathy

Sociopathy

But most everyone can associate with one or more of the symptoms of these at one point or another in their lives... to some extent.

If you are really concerned that you have some illness, see a professional.  Just try to avoid thinking about hypochondria. 

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RE: Autism - 6/27/2010 8:00:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Some might say leave alone the little boxes and labels as one might not like what they end up with just be yourself that is good enough, but sometimes being oneself can be a problem to the self and to others, so searching through the so called disorders is sometimes necessary even if it is purely for the purpose of understanding ones own actions, for in that sense diagnosi can be liberating.

You could if you wish try the online psychometric testing, those tests that can be found on various disorder websites, but they are not a reliable method of arriving at a diagnosis, but at least they give signposts to the participant as to where to go next.

One of these tests that was pointed out to myself years ago also it had in the advice that more than a certain percentage of certain answers given, print out the test with it's results and take it to a physician. The physician seeing a person in receipt of such a test result understands the complainant is seeking more than the usual brush off of depression or anxiety, two things I was perpetualy told for years when I went in search of a reason.

What the physicians were not quite understanding was that anxiety and depression might be symptoms of something else, they would treat the symptoms with pills and stuff but as to the cause, nothing, I needed to know the cause as once a cause is recognised and understood, changes can be made, just like repairing a machine, and I also was a repairman able to repair just about anything that came my way broken.

I am not a repairman anymore, I left that to pursue a life long dream, academic study to be like everyone else, a person who possesses a degree in higher education and with hope a new path in life where I am the boss, not another who pays peanuts and keeps me in a poor standard of living, my history, as by all accounts knowing what I now know, I have under achieved all my life through believing I was in a word stupid, I just didn't get it. ( But regarding the fun of repairing, just now and again I rescue discarded machines from dumps and fix them, my friends have all got useful Numatic Henry hoovers this way, for I repair and give the thing away to those that need it.)

For me it was my university that spotted some familiarities and sent me to an educational psychologist who tested and diagnosed Aspergers syndrome and with that the report from the testing that I was in the top three percent in the country for intelligence and reasoning ability. At the time I was totally confused but at the same time elated that the difficulties I had had all through my life are typical of asperger's syndrome, but I mask it well, the things I have learned through life to cover up my inabilities, but it takes an expert in the field to notice and it was noticed. The diagnosis offered by the psychologist was later confirmed by a psychiatrist.

As to college studies, well prior to, I was for quitting every week, a familiar route to me with academic study, for I had been there before on that one, but now there is a reason I receive additional support from various specialist tutors, helping me to understand the basics that everyone else seems to breeze through.

I have in my new knowledge discovered I have certain behaviours which are not good, for I know they were behaviours I constructed years ago to fit in, but now it appears I am stuck with them as try as I might, I cannot rid them they are that well ingrained, so my next plan is to seek cognitive behavioural therapy to try and undo these things as I see them as a hindrance to my future plans.

So all in all, being given a label, a little box to reside in has helped me immensely, helped me to understand myself and how I fit into society at large. I am not mad, nor stupid, I just think differently and that is that, but I do possess certain talents which are of use to society and I aim to train myself to use those talents for the betterment of myself and others.

As a result, I suffer less anxiety these days and I am on the whole happier, and happy because I see the world as a bright new thing that needs to be explored, for I feel I have been given a second chance.

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RE: Autism - 6/27/2010 10:05:54 AM   
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So is that to say that what those so afflicted care about is what they care about, and are largely uninfluenced by outside forces ?

Though the specifics may differ, you'll find it quite difficult to get me to care about something which I don't, or to stop caring about that which I do. Or is the condition defined by the illogical nature of these specifics ? Am I immune because I have no desire to ride on a train ? LOL

I took the psychopath test and scored a seven out of a possible forty. However it didn't give me any results, at the bottom of the page was a link which I clicked and it was pointed to another Bill Clinton body count down in Arkansas. I already knew about all that. It didn't tell me what my score meant.

Let me ask this : When I took the ACTs, which are a precursor to the SATs, I scored in the 99th percentile in mechanical reasoning. However I scored in the 2nd percentile is spelling. The reason is that I simply did not give a shit about spelling and just checked the answers pretty much at random. But I did care about the mechanical reasoning. Anyone unfamiliar with what a percentile system is, find out. Scoring at the 99th is just about the best you can do, and indeed I am very good at it. As such did I focus on that ? Barring all else ? Is that what all this means ? Then what of the specifics. I can actually build you, from scratch, an automatic transmission for your car. Spelling I learned later. My mind was not ready for it at the time. Actually when my mind got ready for it was pretty much when I started corresponding on the internet.

So I did shift my focus, is that impossible if autistic ? Is that what defines it ? Is autism actually the ability to focus unvaryingly on the subject you choose no matter what ? If so I have my doubts as to whether it even qualifies as a disability, rather than a personality quirk. In fact I find most people to be too easily distracted.

Thanks for the input. I couldn't respond individually, but those are my thoughts on the subject at this time. But others are coalescing in my mind. The kid on the TV show that will eat nothing, and I mean NOTHING but McDonald's french fries. Much more comes to mind as well and I haven't processed it all. What about Steven Hawkings and having a discussion about skiing with him. I'm sure he would be quite uninterested, but that is more a situational thing. But then is this ?

Could autism be a psychological self defense mechanism, whether induced by thimerosal poisoning or not ? Could it be that those so afflicted are actually saner than those deemed "normal" ? just in some cases the sanity has become insane ?

I will stop now, I don't want to deluge you with a plethora of questions when I can probably think through half of them.

More later.

T

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RE: Autism - 6/27/2010 10:25:48 AM   
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RE: Autism - 6/27/2010 10:33:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

Term... trying to diagnose yourself by associating with aspects of a condition most likely isn't going to give you any real answers.  Not accurate ones, anyway.  For example, just from things you've written here you might fall into any of these three conditions...

Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Psychopathy

Sociopathy

But most everyone can associate with one or more of the symptoms of these at one point or another in their lives... to some extent.

If you are really concerned that you have some illness, see a professional.  Just try to avoid thinking about hypochondria. 




Quoted for truth.

Nothing in you screams "autism" to a lay person, but it sure does scream "sociopath/psychopath" (to a lay person).


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RE: Autism - 6/27/2010 10:35:48 AM   
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Is autism actually the ability to focus unvaryingly on the subject you choose no matter what ?



No.

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RE: Autism - 6/27/2010 10:58:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		I find if I shift my focus onto something that interests me, I sort of narrow beam focus on all the parts until I have analysed and there have understanding, I in short become obsessed and will know my subject inside out.

But one thing I have found, to stay away from the depression, I need constant input and of that input, something new to analyse to death as my depression comes from boredom or the lack of input.


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RE: Autism - 6/28/2010 5:06:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just started bouncing around online and found what appears to be a published opinion that Asperger's is not really a disease or debilitating in and of itself. However the fucks want you to register and screw that. I got so many passwords now if I lost all my cookies I would simply be offline. I can't even sign on to my main ISP, and get my mail via AOL (for the moment). I just let XP find the internet and go.

But I like to expand subjects sometimes and I have been thinking. I have been thinking about bipolar. While some minor differences exist, the way I see it is that bipolar is a mild form of manic depression. Manic depression seems to be a mild form of schitzophenia. It's a matter of degree.

I have long said that about half the people I know are borderline manic depressive. Actually I could be right, at times I am proven right because later they end up diagnosed as bipolar.

Now I wonder how many are Aspergic or even mildly autistic. I had a great many misconceptions about this in the past.

And now something few are going to like. This was years ago, on the news or one of those PBS things or whatever. Some researchers concluded that for the severely autistic, the answer was physical violence. Not hurting, but a smack in the head to get one's attention. How they were able to study this under the auspices of society I don't know, but I do know that it was a long time ago, and they reported quite positive results.

Now, I have a grain of salt too, and I know that even if they reported 100% truth it might not be 100% true. It's as they saw it in a limited sample of lower functioning autistics. I don't know how the subjects were chosen, I don't know if the results had a permanent positive or negative effect. All I know is that they seemed to get some results.

This is where things get too complex. To make any kind of judgement on that we would need a hell of alot of data which simply are not available. The total life history of a human being would be required, in fact many. All we can do is deal with it after the fact, and try to think omnidirectionally. What is more important though is to bring in more information.

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They lived over on Carver's Creek.
They were mean as a snake
And sneaky as a cat
And belligerent when they'd speak.
One night the oldest brother said,
"Y'all meet me at the Wooley Swamp later
We'll take old Lucius's money
and we'll feed him to the alligators"

Though fictional, we know such people exist. They must be in some way detached to commit such debauchery. Where do they fit in the "spectrum" ?

I don't mean to run off topic here, but when talking about human personality it's bound to happen. I believe that it is all interrelated, that one can be the cause of another, and I mean that in the broadest sense possible. Sociopathy can be observed in among the most intelligent, but does some form of autism help them with the moral issues, or have they none ? I money an addictive substance ? And how does the addictability fit into the autism spectrum ?

Another huge can of worms.

T

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RE: Autism - 6/28/2010 8:47:02 AM   
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Though fictional, we know such people exist. They must be in some way detached to commit such debauchery. Where do they fit in the "spectrum" ?

I don't mean to run off topic here, but when talking about human personality it's bound to happen. I believe that it is all interrelated, that one can be the cause of another, and I mean that in the broadest sense possible. Sociopathy can be observed in among the most intelligent, but does some form of autism help them with the moral issues, or have they none ? I money an addictive substance ? And how does the addictability fit into the autism spectrum ?


You're making connections where there are none.  Diagnosing friends and relatives is fraught with peril.

Sociopaths are incapable of true emotions (but they can fake them amazingly well).

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RE: Autism - 6/28/2010 10:34:21 AM   
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Great, now I got one more thing to think about.

KILL ME KILL YOU KILL EVERYBODY !!!!!! LOL

But first, I scored seven on the psychopath test, is that good or bad ?

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RE: Autism - 6/28/2010 11:14:07 AM   
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But first, I scored seven on the psychopath test, is that good or bad ?




And what would the exact name of that test be?  Is it a psychological test/assessment, or something that someone made up on the internet for fun?

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RE: Autism - 6/29/2010 1:31:12 AM   
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RE: Autism - 6/29/2010 2:00:51 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

Term... trying to diagnose yourself by associating with aspects of a condition most likely isn't going to give you any real answers.  Not accurate ones, anyway.  For example, just from things you've written here you might fall into any of these three conditions...

Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Psychopathy

Sociopathy

But most everyone can associate with one or more of the symptoms of these at one point or another in their lives... to some extent.

If you are really concerned that you have some illness, see a professional.  Just try to avoid thinking about hypochondria. 




Quoted for truth.

Nothing in you screams "autism" to a lay person, but it sure does scream "sociopath/psychopath" (to a lay person).


Cali

Even the "psychologists" among us thought of psychopathy, so not only the laymen ;-) But I didn't want to tell him since he seems to think he has every disorder he reads/hears about.

Termyn8tor, as a graduated psychology student and the brother of someone with autism it is very clear that you shouldn't worry about that disorder. If you had autism, you would have a lot of trouble understanding what people really want to say, you wouldn't understand why other people feel much nicer when they are with others, you could also have some repetitive behaviours and wander around all day waiting until someone tells you what to do, since you have no idea what to do with your leasure time (or as Aneirin said, you would have a lack of input, although I know you described something else as I have witnessed here).

It seems you have most traits with a psychopath (sociopathy doesn't exist anymore as a term). As a psychopath you lack the ability to care what happens to others and yourself, you show no empathy, you don't pick up emotions form others, well basically you get the picture. Now, a psychopath is not necessarily the serial killer we see in the media. A "pure" psychopath doesn't want to harm anyone, even though he could without remorse. If you want to hurt people (without their consent of course ;-)), destroy things, and you kinda HAVE to break the law you might have antisocial personality disorder. People with antisocial personality disorder don't become serial killers either (well, usually) since they still feel remorse for their deeds. It is the combination of these two that turn someone reallyd angerous, if you WANT to hurt people badly and you CAN hurt them without remorse, that is when you usually become a cold blooded murderer. Most people with antisocial don't have psychopathy though, but in psychopaths, we see that most of them have an antisocial personality disorder. "Pure psychopaths" are the exception rather then the rule.

Now, one last thing I have to add, even though I described some disorders here, chances are that you have NONE OF THE ABOVE. The only thing I would perhaps consider a diagnosis of in your case is hypochondriasis. The "disorder" where there is nothing wrong with you, but you keep thinking whenever you read about something "Oh my God, I have that", and then start to reflect on themselves and try to fit the symptoms into their characteristics, and exaggerate their personality (e.g. saying you could shoot someone in the face without remorse, which I don't believe to be true). Do with it as you may, but make sure you don't make yourself crazy with reading up with all these disorders, and for God's sake, stay away from the "sexual disorders" until you're 80 and impotent.

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RE: Autism - 6/29/2010 3:09:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		ged, I find it very hard to believe but it seems like I have now been suspected of hypochiondria. I should be laying on the floor laughing. I spent two months with the flu many years ago and refused to go to a doc. When I got shot all I wanted was a cab to get home. Things have happened to me to say the least.

But again perhaps my own misconception gets in the way. Is it a definite trait of a hypochondriac to seek medical attention ? I don't think so. But the whole thing here is I am just trying to better understand myself and others. I am here to learn something dammit and you all are going to teach me whether you like it or not :-)

What I am more after is how all of these conditions fit together, in the makeup of a person. I think most of us have some of the traits of the ones clinically defined as afflicted. I am in pursuit of broadbased opinions, because I know the limitations of formal education. What better place than an international forum ?

And I do get what you said, that every psychopath does not become a serial killer, and would add that not every horny dude becomes a rapist. We generally only see the signs of such things after something has occurred. Horny dudes can jack off, psychopaths might find solace in killing cockroaches en masse. You never know. Really, until something is picked up by the news media what the hell do we know about our friends and neighbors ?

And do we need to know ? If it never manifests then so what. My neighbor, a busybody but a really good neighbor was going to move out and get a condo as they were tired of yard work. They are a retired couple and as such were considering it seriously. I did not want them to move, they are good for the area and I singlehandedly talked them out of it, telling them how they would hate it. Not knowing their new neighbors like here, not being able to do certain things, all of it. I mde a good case and it worked. Do they need to know that I could blow their head off without missing a heartbeat ? Why ? I would never do it because there is nothing impelling me to do it. And if I even ever considered doing it I would weigh the reasons with the possible consequences. But then does that make me not a psychopath ? Or is what makes one unpsychopathic soime sort of mental block against doing certain things.

For the record I have never tortured animals unless they were enjoying it (playing rough). I can slapbox, in which the greatest skill learned is to not make a fist even when losing. Things like that. But is that the criteria ? I have personally seen manic depression in many friends as they confided in me, going from being on top of the world to almost suicidal in a very short time and with very little external cause. Sometimes I think manic depression is just a sign of immaturity, of not learning not to count your chickens until they have hatched. Things like that. Perhaps it could be described as being unaware of "Murphy's Law(s)".

For these reasons I look for answers in the real world, as the clinicians(sp) don't seem to be doing so well sometimes. Many times I wonder if "bipolar" is just a new word for moody. That in the past at times people might need some cheering up and other might have tio told to cool their jets. Now there is a label which will bring them a drug via prescription. We had no such thing in my day. There was no ADD or ADHD because you get punished for not paying attention. Eventully you comply. That is the way it used to be and that is the way civilisation worked for at least five thousnd years, and that is also how it is not working now. Half the people in this country I would guess are on some mind altering drug and I am sure half of them are getting the drug via prescription.

And then there is OCD. I drink every day, just beer but I drink little else and really I don't drink any more beer than another would iced tea or anything else. Am I alcoholic ? Well to test that just find me something else to drink and we'll find out. But there are true alcoholics in the world who will kill you for a drink. What is the difference ? Simple, a psychological dependence on the substance. I think some people are addicted to CocaCola, or even worse Mountain Dew. Sugar is another big one.

But OCD can be seen in people who take five showers a day, or wash their hands every fifteen minutes. The manifestations are so varied that it takes someone who knows what they're doing to recognize it. Well just who is that ? Advancement in any science is not always accomplished by those with letters after their name. Then when it comes to a subject such as human psychology, I would say that premise is at least equally as true.

That is precisely why I am here rather than in a classroom somewhere.

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RE: Autism - 6/29/2010 2:39:00 PM   
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The one in the link.

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I don't see a link in anything you posted.

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RE: Autism - 6/29/2010 6:38:47 PM   
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Seems the field is 40, I got 7. Maybe I'm OK eh ?

Perhaps the fact is that I am actually saner and more well balanced than most, except for a few things.

Hey, anything's possible right ?

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RE: Autism - 6/30/2010 2:40:11 PM   
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It was not mine, it was in post 22 by TreasureKY.  Seems the field is 40, I got 7. Maybe I'm OK eh ?



That was the Hare PCL-R, which is not a self-test.  While it is commonly used to screen for antisocial personality disorder (psychopathy and/or sociopathy), there is a vocal opposition that it is not a valid assessment tool.

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RE: Autism - 6/30/2010 6:13:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		One thing have come to understand about online tests, no matter how well intentioned they are, they come in for a lot of flack from professionals involved in the fields of expertise.

It is as if only they can diagnose, as if it is they are the complete experts in the matter because they have passed x qualification, but as we all know regarding qualifications, is they mean nothing beyond a person has achieved a pass in a field of study, what they come on to do post qualification is a lot based upon their supposed superiority for passing such examination. The result is, as everyone is different, there will be diagnosi and misdiagnosi, all depending on their expert status and how they are as a human engaged in their method of employment are at the time.

Perhaps if it is known humans are fallible in such major issues, a clearly defined test would be beneficial to many to get an idea before a physician is consulted.


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RE: Autism - 6/30/2010 7:17:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		That particular test is considered flawed if you answer it yourself.  It is generally used for someone else to answer about you.  There are a lot of valid self-assessments out there for depression, anxiety, etc.  This isn't a self-assessment.

Edited to add:  That particular test is not an online test.  Professionals cannot even purchase it without providing credentials showing they have training in psychological assessment tools. 

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