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Cutting - 4/13/2006 10:35:42 PM   
boundfem


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My Mistress has informed me recently that She wants to do a cutting on me.  I am curious as to how painful this is generally- She said most likely on my back shoulder blade.  I also am curious as to the permancy of a cutting, does it last forever?
I plan to do it for Her regardless, I am just not so familiar with it.
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RE: Cutting - 4/14/2006 12:57:41 AM   
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hmm my cutting has always been on the for arms and thighs so i cant say  how badly the back shoulder blades will hurt,  but it will hurt. not unbearably though unless she cuts very deeply.  the cuts themselves  in my case normaly have a heal time of  about one week but the cuts on me have always been fairly shallow.   it also depends on if they get pulled open agian.  they are just like any other wound to your skin and can scar and can become infected, so do some  resurch learn more about it  and always always take precautions against infection.

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RE: Cutting - 4/14/2006 2:00:09 AM   
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Have you done knife play before? If not I would advise this before cutting...

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RE: Cutting - 4/14/2006 2:03:24 AM   
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Master did a cutting on my lower back, it didnt hurt as the scalpel was so sharp, it stung a little bit as the blade went past the area cut and the antiseptic that was already on my skin moved into where it was cut. Master did mine about 4 - 5 months ago, you can still see it slightly.
Has your Mistress done this before? I think I recall Master saying when he was taught they used chickens to practice for pressure etc.

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RE: Cutting - 4/14/2006 4:48:09 AM   
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Master has  started cutting  with me recently as I showed an interest .. I have to say while the  high from the experience  is  awesome, I do not care for the marks and how long they last. He has not  done any deep cutting only light surface cuts thus far to see how i will handle it .. I do not beleive  I wish to go any farther although  I realize that is Masters decesion now ...
My advice would be to talk to others that have had more experience and if you are to be  out in public make sure the cuts are  somewhere that  can be concealed. mine are on my upper back and butt..it did not hurt as much as i thought it  would .. but the itching and uncomfortableness as it heals was discouraging. I could not wear one of my  favorite  halters because of the  cuts all over my back ... just thought you  might want to keep that in mind
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RE: Cutting - 4/14/2006 7:23:23 AM   
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Can someone explain what this is all about and why? 

I'm new, confused and definitely unsure about this but need more information.

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RE: Cutting - 4/14/2006 10:19:26 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: boundfem
My Mistress has informed me recently that She wants to do a cutting on me.  I am curious as to how painful this is generally- She said most likely on my back shoulder blade.  I also am curious as to the permancy of a cutting, does it last forever?
I plan to do it for Her regardless, I am just not so familiar with it.


Although I'm not a sub, I thought I'd answer to this post because I adore cutting, practice it often, and have been doing it for many, many years.

After making sure all the sterilization, health, and safety concerns are addressed, here's a few other tidbits.

The pain can be described more as a stinging sensation. Not to say it's not painful. It certainly can be.
Wearing guaze and dressing over it while it heals is a good idea, as that way it won't be "catching" on clothing.
I have boy lay face down during it. (I cut a "P" in his shoulder blade.)  We've tried it with him sitting up, but it makes the situation physically awkward. Also, when he is lying face down (especially if he is bound and blindfolded), he can get into a headspace that lets him more enjoy it.
If a sub wants the visual aspect, a webcam can be very useful.
Don't be afraid to ask to "take breathers". Whether that's using a safe word or taking time outs, or whatever. When he needs a breather, I stop cutting and he can catch his breath, calm himself, etc... while I dab up blood, change gloves, etc...
Having a conversation during it can have it's advantages. Kind of like those folks who have conversations while they are getting a tattoo. I've found that a deeper headspace can be obtained if the conversation is power exchange related. "Why are you going through this pain right now?" Background music can change the mood as well. It depends on how much of a "scene" the Dominant wants to make it. I personally like them to "think out loud". I like them to just talk and talk and talk about anything and everything going through their head.
It's going to itch as it heals! Try not to scratch. When boy's gets to itching, I'll actually smack it a few times. Itching is just a low grade pain that is annihilated by a higher grade of pain (scratching). So a slap or smack can serve the same purpose without digging into the wound or infecting it with germs under the fingernails.
The marks it will leave depends on one's skin type, how they heal, and how deep or wide the cuts are. In boy's cutting, the purpose was not only for the experience, but also to have a permanent marking.
There's a lot that can be learned about the anatomy of skin and scarring. If cutting is going to become a normative part of play, I highly encouraging seeking out this knowledge. Simple cutting into a few layers of skin (cat scratch cutting) doesn't leave nearly the markings that edgy, advanced bodmod cutting like skin removal does.
Alcohol is good for killing germs, but it also dries the skin which can hamper healing. Peroxide is perferred, but not as good as an antiseptic. Betadine is the bomb! I live by it. I can't say enough good things about Betadine.
We use good quality surgical scalpuls. Since cutting is something I plan on doing until I die, it's worth the investment. There are good scalpuls out there for sale at decent prices. It might be a good idea to stick with dealers from within your same country. Overseas dealers don't have the same standards set on sterilization of import and export surgical equipment. (That applies to most countries regardless of if they are the ones importing or exporting. I'm not saying one country's equipment is any better or worse than anothers. But if you live in XYZ country, it might be a good idea to get surgical goods from XYZ country.)

Of course I probably go a bit overboard on all of it since it's one of my passions.

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RE: Cutting - 4/14/2006 3:25:53 PM   
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I have had a cutting done before and it hurt but it was not the most painful thing he has done to me.  It was more a challenge to just be still and endure it.  As for how long the marks will last is highly dependent on your skin type.  I mark very easily.  I still have marks from knife play last May that did not draw blood.  I have many fingernail scratches and bite marks and a few are about a year old.  My cutting was a pair of crossed swords on my upper right thigh done last November.  They healed to dark brown lines and are highly visible.  It will take years for them to fade.  My next cutting will be a panther cut into my back and I am looking forward to it.

Have fun getting yours. 

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RE: Cutting - 4/15/2006 3:06:21 AM   
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I would highly suggest doing it on yourself first, so you can get a feel for it. It is a very unique, distinct brand of pain. I would suggest taking alcohol, a sterile razor blade, and just making a few nicks somewhere inconspicuous, like your inner thigh. If you can take the sharp, burning sensation, then you will enjoy it, if not, don't worry about it. It is one thing either you are or you aren't into, and there are really no 'in betweens'. Don't try to do it too deeply at first, the blood may scare you. Cat scratches to begin with, until you are completely comfortable with it. My personal experiences have all been fulfilling and enjoyable, but then again everyone is different.

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RE: Cutting - 4/15/2006 7:16:00 AM   
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I dont know if I could take a scalpel to myself.

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RE: Cutting - 4/15/2006 12:06:44 PM   
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i have not had cutting [by my D] but i have found that during pain play, my shoulders are the least painful spot.

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RE: Cutting - 4/15/2006 2:30:58 PM   
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Like somebody already said, you'll either love or hate being cut.  Just make sure the skin is clean before you cut and use at least a sanitized blade.  Scalpels are nice cause they're sharp and come pre-sterilized.  I usually use my pocketknife for cutting.  I wash it with soap and water and follow that with a high level disinfectant.  It's not sterile, but it's pretty damned clean.

I highly recommend a rubbing alcohol wipe down after the cutting.  Rubbing alcohol doesn't really kill any germs, but it feels really nice.

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RE: Cutting - 4/15/2006 4:35:33 PM   
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It's the first pressure that's the hardest to do..then once the stinging starts and the blood flows a little, it's not as hard to continue..
There is something very primal about cutting, and seeing blood. I'm not sure I can explain it, but it's always seemed very symbolic to me. The pattern of the cuts, what is used, how many cuts are made, where the cuts are located...all those things can be highly symbolic to the person doing them and the person receiving them.
For me, there was always something very life-affirming about the blood and the pain.
When the cutting ends, I've always felt very emotionally drained ..much like the blood carried away any emotional pain with it. I

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RE: Cutting - 4/15/2006 4:54:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ChainedExistence

It's the first pressure that's the hardest to do..then once the stinging starts and the blood flows a little, it's not as hard to continue..
There is something very primal about cutting, and seeing blood. I'm not sure I can explain it, but it's always seemed very symbolic to me. The pattern of the cuts, what is used, how many cuts are made, where the cuts are located...all those things can be highly symbolic to the person doing them and the person receiving them.
For me, there was always something very life-affirming about the blood and the pain.
When the cutting ends, I've always felt very emotionally drained ..much like the blood carried away any emotional pain with it. I


OK . . . this is exactly what was going through my head while reading the posts so I don't need to add much to it!
My cutting mostly stems from Shamanism rather than BDSM and is  highly spiritual and symbolic in nature for me as well.
Just relax, do whatever you need to do to get into your 'headspace', and breathe through it. Above all, please take care of your wounds!

Respectfully,
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