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slave41couple -> RE: What do You think of Body Worship? (4/15/2006 8:38:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MsMacComb quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha There are service tops -- or pay-for-play femdoms -- or other cases where a woman must, to some degree, cater to a man's desires and fantasies. The fact that I don't play into the "sure, I love queening, I really want to sit on your face for HOURS, slut!" persona does not mean I am a man-hater or selfish. It means I get my primary erotic pleasure from using a man sexually in my terms -- not his. Period. Lots of subs dig this. Lots of them consider it the ideal. Does it mean I ignore his desires? Hell no. But are they at the top of the list? ON MY TERMs, they are -- and that's where I get my own sexual kink satisfied. When a woman comes along and says "oh yes, I love oral service sluts and men who can lick and worship my pussy and ass for hours" I am betting she has an agenda other than her own pleasure. First, because to say that she wants that "from any man" is way too broad a statement. Come on -- even pros have some standards of who they will allow to touch them, even non-sexually. Second, because no woman, no matter how dominant or how "fetishy" is "on" 24/7 the way submissive men dream them to be. And I have yet to find a woman that embraces and adores the "Please force me to do the things I want to do so badly, like worship your pussy and ass" and views that as endearing or cute. If anything, it is something to be bridled and adjusted, so that he can stop thinking of the fantasy world and start thinking of servicing her on HER terms. The main point is that most submissive men consider the most important quality in a femdom is her real true desire to see him submit - the look in her eyes, the lust she feels for his surrender and the fact that she is enjoying every moment of that. Most sub men will trade the fantasy for this reality once they experience it. These are men that get a real rush AND a deep sense of satisfaction from pleasing a woman on her terms (no, I'm not talking about money); men that prefer to feel the passion of deep submission at the time and moment where he is suffering sexually for HER pleasure and he knows this to be true. Not the opposite, where he is laying under the ass of a woman who could care less and is obviously not interested, or is "allowing" him to lick her armpit as long as he goes out and buys her a new blender at Target. Akasha Um yea. The main point is that submissive guys do what they do to get off. There can be a billion variations, but their ultimate goal is to get off. Using generalized and broad statements about how submissive men think or what they prefer that appeal to your personal agenda doesn't mean its true, factual or accurate. Its simply your opinion. Presenting your preferances as some form of one truism and all powerful, correct, superior and "new and improved" agenda doesnt change the simple fact that short term or long term 99.9% of all submissive men do what they do in order to eventually get off. Unless you have somehow altered billions of years of evolution. A males one true drive in life beyond food-water-shelter is to reproduce, to ejaculate. If one wishes to pretend otherwise they might as well be getting their "male sexual habits" education from 1950s American television, but then it appears you would already know that. I am not a dominant so I may be wrong here but, would it not stand to reason that male subs as well as female subs "get off" to some degree? If a male sub is not expected to get off, then what would fuel him being a sub. I am not saying put his ejaculation above your needs but everyone on either side is in this for a reason otherwise everyone would be a top. The whole reason people are submitting is because they "get off" on serving. I would not be with a dom that said he could care less if I ever had an orgasm, because I am human and have physical needs too. However, I don't expect my need for orgasm to come before his needs. I also did not see where the OP said he does not serve in other ways he just asked how Dommes liked it. Yes he did say he enjoyed it but is he supposed to never have enjoyment? What fun would that be?

MistressChloes -> RE: What do You think of Body Worship? (4/15/2006 8:50:48 AM)
On a personal note..... I do believe that body worship is something that is saved for the elite slave should he earn the right to do so. Earning must be done thru hard work, tributes, or otherwise, some attaining my smile. It can be something that I enjoy from time to time, but always ON MY TERMS. It is not something that can be taken for granted, nor assumed that it will be allowed always.

AAkasha -> RE: What do You think of Body Worship? (4/15/2006 9:59:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MsMacComb quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha While I can't speak for all femdoms, I think I can safely say that a submissive offering his exceptional talents as a body worshippper in the form of pussy licking, ass licking or armpit licking is not unique nor going to make any femdom reading sit up and say "Damn! That's what I've been missing all my life, a man who wants to worship my body!" -- unless she has a motive related to money. Find me a femdom who read his post and found it compelling. Whether or not his fetish is valid or exists is not relevant. What the point is that most femdoms have been suggesting he rethink his approach, as what he has to offer isn't really anything unique and at best it can come off as objectifying. Lots of pros will come on here and tell him, "it's ok hunny, you can use that approach, real femdoms appreciate your honesty and love your fetish." Non-pros will tell him that femdoms seeking partners want the whole package, not just a tongue, and not just a man looking for a pussy that happens to be attached to a woman. Universal? I won't say that. Other women have other motivations. I think you will see the lifestylers and non-pros giving him some advice (which might be harsher) and pros tellling him his fetishes and laying them all out there is quite all right. But that's their right -- they are in a game of self promotion here, to some degree. I could have promoted my pay site much more heavily by responding to his post and going into great detail about how I wish he were here so I could plant my asscheeks right on his face and smother him for hours and have my friends come over too, because we all love that sort of thing. And armpit worship -- oh, my favorite, especially after my long aerobic workout when my pits are dripping with sweat. I would be assured he and his hard dick would click on my site and maybe sign up, hoping to read more and find out who my friends are; my motivation isn't in cash, though. So I will tell him my honest opinion: Using that "I am a great body worshipper" approach won't win him any interest from femdoms. It won't win me any subscriptions, but then again, I don't make a living off my site and would rather promote an honest view of what femdom is -- for non pros. Akasha Ahhhh, just as I suspected. Its time for the whole "real domme" routine. What the hell are you babbling about and do you yourself even know? You are ranting about real dommes (as opposed to the what, cardboard ones?) pay sites, prodommes and no one is even talking about ANY of that except you. And why is it that you feel compelled to place some distinction on what constitutes a "real" domme? Are you having a low self esteem moment or are you always so judgemental? I especially like your line "Whether or not his fetish is valid or exists is not relevant". That in a nutshell encapsulates your entire opinion of subs and their interests. To "FauxDommes" like you they are just a piece of meat or money. Contrary to what you have been claiming about the whole "value of relationships and your needs over his" etc the truth comes out. You appear self centered and your obsession with mentioning prodommes and paysites reveals you must be jealous of them, or why else do you bring that up in every reply? Let me tell you something "sweety" there are millions of lonely women in the world who have needs and desires. Maybe some have had a rough time, perhaps some don't have the "look" that makes them the first one to be hit on in a bar, maybe some have had a string of selfish lovers and they would LOVE to have an attentive guy pay homage to them and their body parts. You keep claiming that you don't speak for "all dommes" but then you turn right around and do so.Whats the real problem here "honey"? Is it that someone speaking the truth is shattering the mythical bit of garbage you've been spewing out (and as you just revealed charging for, lol) for the last decade? Cutting into your profit margin so its upset you to the point where every other line is about prodommes and pay sites? Get a GRIP, lady! The poor guy asked a simple question and unleashed the wrath of a bitter old "pro" who slipped up and disclosed that, while pretending to be anti-pro, lol. Again, whats your obsession with pro-dommes? His question was about body worship, he didnt mention paysites, hookers, gold diggers, pro-dommes, fake dommes, rent-a-dommes, thats YOUR trip, not his. A few reality checks: 1. I never said "real" dom -- I said pro vs. non pro. There are important differences in their motivations. 2. My site was free for 10 years. It went pay less than a year ago to get minors off of it and protect the copyrights on my content. 3. I am not a pro femdom but could be one if I chose to, and dabbled enough in my youth to decide I prefer being a career woman. I own my own business (nothing to do with BDSM) and make enough money to cover both me and my submissive partner so he does not need to have a job; if you think my motivation for posting here has anything to do with cash, you're sorely mistaken. If anything, it costs me money to keep my site up. I could sell it for the traffic and make a large chunk of cash. I could boost subscriptions to my site if I posted a highly eroticized "your fetish is my first priority, of course I want to sit on your face for a half a day!" persona here to drive men to my site; I choose not to. I post a pretty realistic picture of how it is trying to get a femdom interested in you who has no interest in cash -- at all. Edited to add: You will see my history of posting here is VERY pro-professional domina -- I think they provide an excellent service and have never slammed them. What I do not like, however, is when pros send mixed messages to subs who are trying to get their head around things and tell them their approach is just fine, when in reality their approach is probably not going to win them any brownie points with non-pros. It's in the best interest of a pro to say "behave any way you want, I STILL WANT to dominate you!" (and leave out the part about the cash) rather than say "Y'know, starting right out with the 'I am excellent at body worship, I love to lick assholes and pussies and armpits' probably isn't going to get any femdoms to sit up straight and line up to email you...." Which side of the fence are you on this one? Hope that clears things up. Akasha

MisPandora -> RE: What do You think of Body Worship? (4/15/2006 10:27:46 AM)
It felt like an advertisement of his licking prowess, tucked not-so-neatly into a question.

MisPandora -> RE: What do You think of Body Worship? (4/15/2006 10:48:21 AM)
worshippingyou, I think what you've failed to think about is that the acts you're proposing are VERY intimate to a woman, much less one who just might use sex as a power/control mechanism with their partner. That's the psychological effect. Anatomically speaking, the female sex organs are almost all internal and private. Genital service is a precious, close and intimate thing for most women. There seems to be a largely different way of thinking about female oral sex compared to men where the naughty bits are primarily external. And let's think for a moment on the privacy and discretion of the act: Most of us are propositioned for these intimate acts from perfect strangers as the sole purpose of THEIR gratification veiled in this disguise of "being pleasing to me." It's even on the first exchange, often without even so much as a hello or a proper greeting! While you might think in your male mind that it'd be flattering to proposition a woman in such a manner, or sexy, or even pleasing to her, it makes us wonder just how many other random strangers is he suggesting that he stuff his face into and slop around in her sticky genitals? Why presume so quickly that she wants some stranger slurping at her crotch? And why would she need a strange man to slip his staph-aureus/e-coli/candida-albicans-ridden oral cavity over her clit to make her day better when her fingers (vibrator/girlfriend/boyfriend) do just as good a job without the maintenance? Where is the sacred in sexual worship? The way it's proffered forth most of the time, it doesn't seem too precious, sacred and "worshipful" to me. Sometimes, it's all in the delivery :-)

Oumae -> RE: What do You think of Body Worship? (4/15/2006 11:32:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MisPandora Sometimes, it's all in the delivery :-) I agree with this! I'm a sensual Domme and I enjoy sex and would be intimate with a sub I had the right chemistry and a close bond with. I enjoy flirting too. Someone approaching me directly with something like this would turn me right off tho'. Oumae

teazchaz -> RE: What do You think of Body Worship? (4/15/2006 1:56:35 PM)
MsMacComb, what a breath of fresh air you are. There's a lot of hot wind that blows on this site, and it is really refreshing to read your comments. You have a playful fun attitude about female domination, as opposed to turning it into a forum to belittle and criticize male subs for their feelings and desires. I'm sure that you knew that by posting as you have you would get the negative reactions from the doms who have different agendas. Thanks for putting yourself out there and letting us know that it's ok to have kinky thoughts and desires.

KYsissy -> RE: What do You think of Body Worship? (4/15/2006 2:31:47 PM)
Here is my two cents . . . While claiming to be very good at giving head and enjoying very much, That does not say very much else about you and does not distinguish you from the male subs who are just as good at it or better. I have had several Dommes tell me that I am very good at it and yes, I LOVE it. Is it the first thing I would mention when contacting someone? Hell no, I'm sure they get those types of messages daily and they probably do not even read past that point and deleted. I talk with one Domme regularly and she sends me some of the messages she gets and pissed off is her reaction to them. Yes it is about her pleasure and needs but real life intrudes on the fantasy with great regularity and if you pay attention, chances are her needs are more along the line of cutting the grass or new brakes on her car. I can't play sex toy when the brakes need to replaced on my honey's car, they need to be fixed now, the sex will have to wait. I will take a wild guess and say that most men enjoy giving head and damn near all male subs do. Women can get that anywhere, It's kinda like water they can just turn on the faucet and have all they want. If that is all you have to offer, (I don't believe it is) you may have some trouble finding someone.

MsMacComb -> RE: What do You think of Body Worship? (4/15/2006 9:22:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WorshippingYou1 A reading from the Book of AAkasha: "A submissive male expressing his likings seeks to 'use' the domme for his own selfish ends; however, a domme who charges money for her 'dominance' shall not be construed as 'using' the sub-male." AAkasha: "The Word of the AAkasha." Congregation: "Thanks be to AAkasha." Dworkin again, lol? :)

MsMacComb -> RE: What do You think of Body Worship? (4/15/2006 9:26:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: teazchaz MsMacComb, what a breath of fresh air you are. There's a lot of hot wind that blows on this site, and it is really refreshing to read your comments. You have a playful fun attitude about female domination, as opposed to turning it into a forum to belittle and criticize male subs for their feelings and desires. I'm sure that you knew that by posting as you have you would get the negative reactions from the doms who have different agendas. Thanks for putting yourself out there and letting us know that it's ok to have kinky thoughts and desires. Thank you for mentioning this. :)

WorshippingYou1 -> RE: What do You think of Body Worship? (4/16/2006 3:26:11 PM)
Ummmm...perhaps some clarification is in order. I never proposed walking up to a woman and starting out our interaction by telling her that I want to lick her; I took it as a given that a sub would never mention his desires unless asked to do so by the domme. I never proposed oral worship being my purpose to her; I took it as a given that that would be only a reward for exceedingly good behavior on my part (if ever at all); I never said that my likings aren't secondary to Hers; I took it as a given that they were. I never stated that body parts are more important than emotional bonding; I took it as a given that the physical aspect of a relationship is but the manifestation of the emotional/spiritual aspect. Etc., etc. In other words, I assumed the best of all on this site. And I assumed that they would choose to see me in the same light. Naive of me I suppose but that's ok. The reality of the commencement of this thread is considerably more mundane than the responses to it: Because I enjoy providing oral worship, I was curious as to how many dommes place any sort of premium on it---I didn't think to attach all sorts of reassurances to it. A note to dommes who assume the worst and then flame: While it is true that the sub must earn the privilege to serve, it is just as true that respect for the domme is something that she must earn. Otherwise, it truly is just about the "kink." And it is difficult to respect overreactive (to say the least) out-of-control temper-fits. If you cannot control your own self, then it would be most unsafe for me to hand myself over to you. YOU would be perceived as being the one in need of a spanking.

LaTigresse -> RE: What do You think of Body Worship? (4/16/2006 3:46:34 PM)
seems like alot of ado about nothing... If the guys approach is constantly about his "skills" he is probably not going to have much luck when it comes to gaining a desired response...WHICH...if the poor sap has a brain, will cause him to do some self evaluating, perhaps ask for an opinion (lord help him then...), adjust his approach and move on....All in all its definately not worth squabbling over.........

GoddessDustyGold -> RE: What do You think of Body Worship? (4/16/2006 3:47:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WorshippingYou1 Ummmm...perhaps some clarification is in order. I never proposed walking up to a woman and starting out our interaction by telling her that I want to lick her; I took it as a given that a sub would never mention his desires unless asked to do so by the domme. I never proposed oral worship being my purpose to her; I took it as a given that that would be only a reward for exceedingly good behavior on my part (if ever at all); I never said that my likings aren't secondary to Hers; I took it as a given that they were. I never stated that body parts are more important than emotional bonding; I took it as a given that the physical aspect of a relationship is but the manifestation of the emotional/spiritual aspect. Etc., etc. In other words, I assumed the best of all on this site. And I assumed that they would choose to see me in the same light. Naive of me I suppose but that's ok. The reality of the commencement of this thread is considerably more mundane than the responses to it: Because I enjoy providing oral worship, I was curious as to how many dommes place any sort of premium on it---I didn't think to attach all sorts of reassurances to it. A note to dommes who assume the worst and then flame: While it is true that the sub must earn the privilege to serve, it is just as true that respect for the domme is something that she must earn. Otherwise, it truly is just about the "kink." And it is difficult to respect overreactive (to say the least) out-of-control temper-fits. If you cannot control your own self, then it would be most unsafe for me to hand myself over to you. YOU would be perceived as being the one in need of a spanking. I have stayed out of this thread thus far, but I have read it. I am sorry you feel this way, WorshippingYou1. I did not see any Domina throwing a fit or a tantrum on this thread. I did see some bluntness. Perhaps deservedly so. It is all in the perception. Your first mistake was in thinking anything is a given. When your profile states a wish to be a sexual slave and you speak of your limits being very few (except CBT, that is!) and then use the word "obsessional" (no such word, but I draw the conclusion you meant obsessive) and then you come to the boards with such a straightforward post, it does seem like you are more taking a suvey to see what your chances are, as oposed to any interest in an actual relationship that would include other forms of service. quote: Gentle, docile, classy, friendly male desiring to be the sexual servant of one dominant Woman. Other than cbt have very few limits and am especially obsessional about providing prolonged oral service, facesitting, or even being a human toilet. Am fairly handsome and can provide photos to regular email address. Thank You. Where is the rest of your profile? Mayhap we take that to mean that this is your only real interest? You state you are "obsessional" (focused) and you seem to come across that way. Why would we doubt that? If so many misunderstand the purpose of your post, or the meaning behind such, who or what is the common denominator? It is, indeed, all in the delivery. If you mean that we are supposed to get fries and a dessert with that meal, then next time, make it clear. Right now, it seems like all that is being offered is the plain burger for the same price. So I will, naturally, go down the street to try to find a better deal. But then, I'm a picky shopper.

WorshippingYou1 -> RE: What do You think of Body Worship? (4/16/2006 3:54:35 PM)
LaTigresse: Amen. Goddess DustyGold: The tone of your missive is appreciated and, I would submit, considerably more civil than a few here. I sincerely see what you have said here to be informative, frank, and useful. All without being denigrating. I am new and am seeing that my profile needs to be rounded out. Thank you.

LaTigresse -> RE: What do You think of Body Worship? (4/16/2006 4:46:41 PM)
Don't get too excited buddy, your approach is a perfect example of why I have no interest in a male of the species. However that is my personal preference. I am a firm believer that men and women are just wired completely different and what I want in my life I cannot imagine having with a man, submissive or otherwise.

WorshippingYou1 -> RE: What do You think of Body Worship? (4/16/2006 10:50:00 PM)
LaTigresse: well...I looked at your profile and suffice it to say that you needn't concern yourself with my being "too excited."

mons -> RE: What do You think of Body Worship? (4/19/2006 2:16:00 AM)
Ron You make me laugh so hard now wait i know you a man so why in the world dear one are you now a domme i do think you play a trick on me Mons/jane

MistressXinran -> RE: What do You think of Body Worship? (4/19/2006 6:27:15 AM)
Does body worship always have to be sexual? Surely it is about the context with which it is done, I agree with the fact the type that is being described is sexual and intimate, but I have done some worship scenes which I know the sub certainly wan't just using it as an excuse to get himself off, although I don't think a sub taking pleasure in what they are doing to you is always a bad thing. I just think you can't just make a sweeping statement about body worship being as it can be so different with different subs at different times. There are also many more parts of the body than the three mentioned in the original post. Xinran

hairslave -> RE: What do You think of Body Worship? (4/23/2006 6:59:25 PM)
I have read thruogh this threat in hopes of learning what is and isn't meant by that trem.Body worship. Lady's please ciriciet me if i'm wrong here. I use to think of boby worship as worshipping the woman in place of God. Now as i see it, body worship should mean, to afictionitly attend to HER needs as they may be. This may be done through caressing, kissing an eara of HER body, maticaluosly doing HER hair, nails ect. through massageing , ivited afiction, and ONLY ON HER TREMS and TIME TABLE, sexual, oral or other wise. Most men seem to only think inside his boxers.We see it in their threads. Regratfully some of you ladies report receiveing such unwelcome messages at you profiles. To me to be submisive means giving your all to HER, to please HER, with out expictation in return,... and being greatful for what ever comes back. Our Profiles are a tool to match a tops needs, with subs desire to provid for the fulfillment there of. If we don't list what we long to perform,... to bring you pleasure, how are you to know if we are benifical to you? To me a Top, finding a sub, offering what theTop wants, can then train that sub, to know how to perfict subs talents, to best please the Top. A sub should be able to exspese limets but,... not demand , to have his desires meant on his time table. A good Top well respict a subs needs and, well address them. Maybe through rewards. as to the threads i've read here, i tend to see why maybe some Dommes list cuckold in their Profiles. This way they state up front that you best do this just for the pleasre to do so, for ME. with no sexual benifits in return. As a male sub.,.. i find it would be afensive to bring up anything sexual early on . Women are wired different then men. They think out side the boxers ( most of the time ). Thank you.

MistressDREAD -> RE: What do You think of Body Worship? (4/24/2006 5:05:43 AM)
quote: What do You think of Body Worship? Body Worship is practiced in many different ways and forms. From the physical sence to the spiritual. One does not need to be submissive/slave or Dominant to Body Worship. This is a fetish for some, an occupation for others and a work in progress for even others. fetishes on the whole are not role or position biased. Anyone can practice them. Anyone can desire them. Anyone can enjoy them. JMO

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