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Oil spill truth ? - 6/29/2010 11:35:41 PM   
Termyn8or


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I put a question mark there because I don't automatically believe everything I read. Though I have no reason to believe these folk are lying, it is entirely possible that their conclusions are wrong. So with the grain of salt.....

Every possible method of plugging this leak are being explored, or so they say. But in two months it's supposedly going to amount to 60 million gallons possibly. Some are hoping for some kind of miracle.

It's estimated that the pressure of this gusher is between 30,000 and 70,000 PSI. Now this coming from a twenty inch pipe. A pressure washer developing 1,000 PSI through the right nozzle can cause serious injury or damage. Any man made solution is going to take quite a bit of doing to say the least.

Even to plug the pipe, the walls used to be two inches thick, but are being eroded daily and are estimated to be down to about an inch now. Remember 30,000 PSI.

The spill has now reached the Gulf stream and are entering the oceanic currents which are about four times as strong. Estimates are that it will be carried throughout the world in about 18 months. Of course it will be alot thinner, but take a deep breath. A very significant portion of the oxygen we need in the air is produced by plankton in the oceans. Plankton are not likely to be very comfortable in crude oil as they mostly reside towards the surface, they need the sun. I have not studied about the signature of light transmission through crude oil, and perhaps I don't want to. But nonetheless the oxygen evaporates into the air, which keeps us alive. At the VERY least, this evaporation is not going to be as much with oil, even just a thin coating on the surface. That of course assumes the plankton can survive in the first place.

Slant drilled pressure relief valves will take at least two months, but by then the original hole is likely to be enlarged by erosion.

With the pressure, they will have to bleed it off somewhere, as trying to block it off that way of course defeats the purpose. What are they going to do let the excess run into-------the ocean ? So how many tankers a day is that ? They'll be lined up to Libya. The Arabs will be out of business. And any attempts to block off the main hole with that kind of pressure are not that likely to be 100% reliable and effective.

So now with what is likely to be a hell of alot of oil simply gone from under the ground what of the geological ramifications. Well, as you know a liquid cannot be compressed so it is obviously holding up some weight, for now. Eventually one of two things must happen then. Either the seawater gets down to that 400F degree gunk and that's probably not a good thing to say the least. The other thing that might happen is the ocean floor drops, which will of course tend to maintain a steady "delivery". Now if that ocean floor sinks one inch in an hour, that water is not going to be happy. It will take Florida off the map at least.

Nature may actually plug the hole, but that is not going to happen overnight. It is speculated that the most likely thing is the ocean floor falling will cause enough of a clog, so to speak. After all it was clogged up pretty well until BP came along. However it is going to leave a nasty part of the environment the likes of which probably hasn't been "seen" since pre-prehistoric times. Just how big it will be is anyone's guess.

This post is a cumulative effort in a way, between those I have read on the subject and my conclusions. I can't say that it is the absolute truth and the whole truth about this issue. But what if it is ? One has to think about the worst case scenario, and if this post is all true, though unlikely to be 100%, if it is there are two possible outcomes. At best we lose most of Florida and a bite out of a few other states, Mexico will not be happy either. We will also lose at least some of our breathing oxygen, and have something akin to a cesspool in what used to be a very beautiful place and an asset to this country. At worst the leak continues, as the oil experts were right in that there is ALOT of oil there. That could mean almost the end of life on this planet, because anyone with an ounce of understanding of how our ecosystem works knows - if the sea dies we die.

And they think they can fix this by giving us gas for about a buck off a gallon. FUCK YOU BP. No amount of fucking money can begin to make this right. Even if they manage to fix it tomorrow, it will take the environment a century to recover, even to the point of sustaining life in that soon to be lake of goop.

I am far from a bleeding heart environut. I'll pour used motor oil out - only in certain places. I would not take it down to the gulf, I mean around the foundation my house, for several reasons and we are not talking all that much. I've used PURE clordane, look it up. It is one of the deadliest pesticides ever invented and has been outlawed. But I don't throw shit in the water, and remember I am in a city with a river that actually caught on fire. That was a bad mess but it pales in comparison to this. If this happened in the Cuyahoga river it could be dammed off and dealt with. But it wasn't drilling it was dumping. One of our claims to shame. It seems like nothing now.

My statements here, again, are based on what others have said, many actual scientists. Some of it may be wrong, and hope most of it is. But it makes too much sense. At times during writing this, I have wished I'd never given it a second thought.

And now in a discussion about this, someone mentioned how many religious types put a signifigance on the year 2012. Don't look at the calendar if you're sensitive about that because in eighteen months..............

But what if it is true ? Not through divine inspiration, just insight.

T
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RE: Oil spill truth ? - 6/30/2010 6:02:18 AM   
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I am sick of hearing about it.

It is bad.  There is nothing I can do.  This includes any contact with congress-etc.

I am some states away.   I dont want to live in worry 24-7.

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RE: Oil spill truth ? - 6/30/2010 7:36:17 AM   
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quote:

I dont want to live in worry 24-7.


Except about the monetary system. I am sick of hearing about that.



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