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IronBear -> RE: Finding a Martial Artist Dom (7/6/2010 4:45:06 AM)

Haven't you come across the "WalMarts" of martial yet? My oh my you are in for a surprise. Actually, I glad if you haven't. 'tis a pity to see good students getting disillusioned. When with my late Sensei, we would always wear white belts as even at Black belt levels we (including him) were only on the start of a long spiritual journey. I know one mob here who are the professionals of mass producing black belts (or the equivalent) in several types of Martial Arts for a price.  I also came across one bloke who bought his certificate stating emphatically he was a Black Belt from a magazine add local to this country. 10 seconds on the mat and he was heading into the sunset in dismay and disgust for being had, albeit a tad sorer and a lot embarrassed. It also why we rarely entered into formal competitions and also because we were trained that what we learned was not a sport but a combat style for real combat including self defence.  Too many times have I seen a good Martial Artist beaten and hurt because he had been trained and used to the sports aspect and thus didn't have the instinct to harm or kill when the need is there. Still that's life. Each to his own. 




graceadieu -> RE: Finding a Martial Artist Dom (7/8/2010 10:28:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: IronBear
Too many times have I seen a good Martial Artist beaten and hurt because he had been trained and used to the sports aspect and thus didn't have the instinct to harm or kill when the need is there. Still that's life. Each to his own. 


I don't think there's anything wrong with studying a sport style. That sort of thing is a great workout and has some mental/spiritual benefits and allows fun sports competition, which is why you study it. You don't do things like TKD to learn real self-defense, but IMO that doesn't make it inferior to an actual self-defense style like Hapkido where you'll develop the know-how and instinct to disable or even hurt somebody who's attacking you.




porcelaine -> RE: Finding a Martial Artist Dom (7/8/2010 11:10:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: karatekickme1

I am having a hard time finding a black belt martial artist DOM who is gay and or bi and would be sadistic with his feet . . . any ideas of websites where I can post for this and hopefully find this person in the Chicago area? Any help would be greatly appreciated.


There's a Rough Body Play group that is based in Chicago that you can find on Fetlife. Also, the Galleria Domain 2 hosts informational events around the subject matter. It is probable you'll encounter someone that fits the criteria you're seeking within that grouping. Best of luck.

~porcelaine




IronBear -> RE: Finding a Martial Artist Dom (7/9/2010 7:41:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: graceadieu

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ORIGINAL: IronBear
Too many times have I seen a good Martial Artist beaten and hurt because he had been trained and used to the sports aspect and thus didn't have the instinct to harm or kill when the need is there. Still that's life. Each to his own. 


I don't think there's anything wrong with studying a sport style. That sort of thing is a great workout and has some mental/spiritual benefits and allows fun sports competition, which is why you study it. You don't do things like TKD to learn real self-defense, but IMO that doesn't make it inferior to an actual self-defense style like Hapkido where you'll develop the know-how and instinct to disable or even hurt somebody who's attacking you.


You are quite correct. However whilst I did not either say it is wrong to treat any form of martial art as a sport, nor did I cast any doubt over then validity of those who do so. My comment which you quoted, is a simple statement of fact as witnessed by myself that some of those who treat and train their martial arts as a sport are not necessarily as well equipped mentally to user it in street combat. To add to this I would hazard a guess that many martial artists not blooded in life or death combat, are just as likely to make errors to their cost. I was interestingly, discussing this very subject with several friends who are long time Highly qualified and experienced martial artists (three who are 3rd Dan) over dinner at a restaurant this very night. Each one had memories of their first realm street fight and remembered their initial confusion and inability initially to react as their training, at that should have had then do so. My point is that those who are trained and oriented not toward sport but towards the original purpose of these martial arts, being as the term implies Martial Arts , or the Arts of War or Combat, have at least a psychological edge for their training tells them to kill or maim instinctively. This is similar indeed to when I face an opponent with my katana, The sword or indeed any weapon I am accustomed to using, becomes part of me and arrives at the point where I wish it to without any coinscious thought. But that is the rresult of harsh training and hard disciplines more than any ability I may have. For those of us who see things in a traditional manner, it is not and can never be a sport. For my sport I don medieval armour and fight with a 10lb broad sword or a mace. In conclusion perhaps mI should state that I am a keen and active advocate of children nand youth becomming involved with a reputable Dojo and encourage them to follow the sports route. It helps build good self defence, discipline and character.




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