IronBear
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ORIGINAL: gungadin09
Sorry to be replying again so soon, but i wanted to clarify:
i'm not trying to call anyone out who answered the original thread of "What's with all the 18 year olds calling themselves Masters?" (The thread was called something like that...) i was not referring to that thread specifically when i said that i've heard ageist things on this site. i was not referring to anyone specifically, either. Actually, i didn't think that OP was ageist, or that my response was ageist, but when i saw several young people react so strongly, it made me do a double take. Like, maybe there's a reason they're reacting that way. Upon examination, i had to admit that i do sometimes say things that are ageist. i have heard other people on this site do it as well, on occasion. (Please don't assume i am talking about YOU.) i'm not referencing any specific person or statement, i'm just saying that things like that are said, sometimes. i guess i never really thought about it, until now. So, that's why i started this thread, because i wanted to hear the opinions of people who are outside the standard age bracket for this site. What are their experiences? Do they feel they are discriminated against or not taken seriously because of their age.
It seems to me that many people who answered the thread feel that the term "Master" implies a status/commitment/proficiency that must be EARNED BY EXPERIENCE. If that is the case then it's fair to say that the average 18-year-old cannot have earned the title of "Master", yet. On the other hand, if the term simply refers to an orientation (the same way that "Dominant" and "submissive" refer to orientations or temperments) then anyone who feels that they have that orientation is free to refer to themselves by that title.
Sorry if i have caused confusion or offended anyone.
pam
I want only to address the age = experience aspect which sadly still comes up. Experience is life experience including training and work as much as what you do in your leisure times. I know many older men who are less experienced than their age may indicate. In face some are complete screw ups and are unable to get many things right even after the first three times. They are just simple blokes who like things simple and will happily allow anyone with more ability and even experience to take the lead. On the other hand, I was a kid when I arrived in 'Nam as a commissioned officer US Spec Forces. I was 25 when I left as a line officer. At roughly 21 or so years many blokes are at their peak regarding hand eye coordination and ability to make fast accurate decisions which is why top gun and other top level fighter pilots in control of multi million dollar combat aircraft and in that age group. Sure I'll question a "Master" of 18 years or so but that I question everyone. I'll give him a fair go and see how he performs. much can be learned by sitting back quietly and watching, listening and just absorbing what others do, say and act. My beef is more with the "I want it and I want it now" mob who are just not prepared to spend the time learning and even listening to those who can walk the walk and talk the talk.. I actually have more friends and acquaintences around my Neet's age (35) than mine (65 in August). But then the best died young.... I say give the young ones a fair go and give the old farts a go too. generally I look at females potentially as slaves at Neet's age group more for practical reasons I would tend to look to a slightly older group and lets face it there are some adorable and absolutely beautiful women in every sense of the world who will never see 40 again.. Agfain for me, it isn't so much age which has caught up with me but a fucked up immune system, osteoarthritis in both knees (Shit I used to be bullit proof and now I need body armour to about being decked by a goose's fart) and T2 diabetres has knocked the shyte out of me so I tend to take it slower than I used to.. Ahh well next millennium I'll have my second wind and be as dangerous as a malley bull in mating season
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It's true ... the skin of my ass has thinned. My dermatologist made it official. The cane hurts much more now than ever before. My experience in the clubs ... not so good. However, younger women have been kind (in a cruel fashion) in relationships. I ran into one thread on CM which I found repellant ... a few young women remarking upon the "smell" of old age. When I objected I was told they were just joking and I should not be so old a fuddy duddy. I had a lovely LDR here on CM with a much younger woman across the Pond. I will always cherish the memory of it. Ironically, I received a disapproving email from a Domme my age who chastised me for that relationship. I can understand her POV. Overall, the denizens of CM have been very polite and accepting towards me. I have no complaints. 
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