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What is psychological playing? - 7/6/2010 2:46:50 PM

hankyspanky2

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Hi,

Forgive me if I've posted something that has been posted a dozen times or more. Believe me I've been searching for this topic here and on the internet for a long time now.

Could someone explain to me what is psychological playing? I've read somewhere that it involves a scene/play that is scary and frightening to the sub because what they percive to be happening, actually isn't. For example, A dom may say he is going to use a knife on her skin, but instead, draws a sharp pencil across her skin. (Not sure if that is the best example though)

Would this subject also cover what some call mind games? Because I sometimes think this is where I'm getting confused. Mind games to me are doing something to another to send their head into a spin, make them react in ways they know they shouldn't, cause them turmoil and anguish? Or again is that the wrong way of looking at it.

From Wikipedia "The term mind games refers to passive aggressive behavior used specifically to demoralize or empower the thinking subject, often making the aggressor look superior"

How does this fit into a bdsm lifestyle? Has anyone experienced this, and feels able to explain to me this process.

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Hs2

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RE: What is psychological playing? - 7/6/2010 2:52:19 PM

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What you have described can be viewed as role play, mind games, mindfucking, or just two people enjoying what they are doing.

How does it fit into the BDSM lifestyle?? Come on now...how would it not be applicable when people are living out their deepest, darkest desires, secrets and wishes, or attempting to?

Just because something is not happening, does not make it less real for the players. I love this kind of stuff; makes me swoon when done well and sometimes, it is good to push the limits and actually DO what you said you were pretending to do.

All this works because different emotions are engaged, fear being one of them and the ability to work through that and submit to it is what is sublime about it.

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RE: What is psychological playing? - 7/6/2010 6:34:57 PM

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Yes and, in my experience, it is very hard to do well.

When I have found a D who "has my number", so to speak, and enjoys it, I have treated the relationship as pure gold.

I don't think passive-aggressive is an accurate descriptor, though it might look like it to some some and maybe that's the best way to describe it. There is nothing passive or unconscious about the mental twists and turns. And for me, that's the turn on.

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RE: What is psychological playing? - 7/6/2010 6:42:51 PM

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I think it's called fucking with your head!

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RE: What is psychological playing? - 7/6/2010 7:39:38 PM

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for me, it's the point of what i do...so much fun

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RE: What is psychological playing? - 7/6/2010 11:46:55 PM

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Mind Fucking, Edge Play, Or Sadism if you like all involve to a degree some line in which one is willing to cross.

I like Mind Fucks, They can be fun to work a sub up over nothing. It can be fun to test the bounds of dedication, the idea that I say I will never harm you and you say you believe me then I present a situation when you fear I MAY harm you and you teeter in your head about what may happen.

I generally remove some sense usually sight, sometimes sound, other times combinations of senses. Bind them up and then present them with a partial situation in which they are forced to engage in a internal dialogue that goes between fight and flight instinct and obedience to the knowledge that I have said I will never harm you.

In the Horrible Movie The Punisher, there is a scene where information is needed and to get it the Punisher says he is going to use a Blow Torch on this guy until he tells him what he wants to know. He Describes what the burn from a Blow Torch will do medically and how when the nerve endings are burned at such a degree it doesn’t feel hot it feels cold. She with the man being all tough The Punisher lowers the Torch on a Steak and Touches the guy with a Popsicle. In this guys mind he can smell burning meat and feels cold and believes he is being burned with a Blow Torch. IT WAS BRILLIANT.

I believe John Warren once told a story about a girl who fantasized about Vore, which is basically the idea that someone wants to be devoured, So he coats her in Liquid Latex, without baby oiling her up first and then they put a heater on the ground and Turned her like a Spit above it, then they set her on a Table and Peeled off the Latex, the Mind fuck was a Fantasy of her own making, but it was done without harm. Again the Idea was fucking brilliant.

Psychological play can also be damaging, some doms, use what is akin to programming in the demoralizing of the target. The idea that if you call someone a dumb cunt often enough from a place of authority you will eventually create a dumb cunt. If you wish to model a Pavlovian response this is also a form of Psychological Play.

For Instance, Get a girl to play with a Hitachi, or something that will bring Orgasm EVERY TIME. Now figure out how long it takes her to cum, then Start a Count down from 10 to 1 and at one Pull her Hair at the same time she Orgasms, Do this every day for a week to a month, the longer you do it the more apt she will be to maintain the response. Then begin doing the countdown without the Hitachi, the start of the countdown will begin to tell her brain she is about to get a prize, when you reach one and pull her hair her brain will tell her she is supposed to orgasm. The more you do it shorten the time line, I have been able to get it from 5 to 1 and in some cases not even need to pull her hair the Number ONE being said in my tone and with my inflection was enough to illicit a response.

There are lots of ways to do psychological play… the first question I would ask if you really wanna do it in the first place… Having your mind fucked with can be really intense and maybe not something you want to do with someone unless they know what they are doing.

Happy Hunting and Hope you find your Bliss.

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RE: What is psychological playing? - 7/7/2010 11:45:30 AM

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Psychological play is the conscious version of what almost everybody does to each other almost all the time anyway.

At least when one does it consciously and intentionally, there can be consent and respect of boundaries.

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