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LadyEllen -> RE: Obama Ends War On Terrorism Declares Americans The Enemy (7/7/2010 2:56:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 I have been asked by those who are assigned to observe you to tell you that you really dont know how to make proper tea. Message received and decoded. Invites to the wedding will be going out on 30th. Didnt we meet, on the east coast? Call dealer to repair the aircon next week. Out E

mnottertail -> RE: Obama Ends War On Terrorism Declares Americans The Enemy (7/7/2010 2:58:48 PM)
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Elisabella -> RE: Obama Ends War On Terrorism Declares Americans The Enemy (7/7/2010 3:02:56 PM)
Dude, seriously, you expect people to get mad about this? Just quote parts of the law and say it was passed in 2003 under Bush if you want any sort of reaction.

LadyEllen -> RE: Obama Ends War On Terrorism Declares Americans The Enemy (7/7/2010 3:04:16 PM)
Youve long since had your chance mate You think, after all this time, you can just tap me up like that? Doesnt matter how much you fawcet either E

Fellow -> RE: Obama Ends War On Terrorism Declares Americans The Enemy (7/7/2010 3:05:03 PM)
I think, the foreign terrorism threat on US soil is basically eliminated. There seems to be a consensus US is imploding for economic reasons. Pulling troops out of the middle East would eliminate external terrorism completely. Defending plutocrats against general public is a different story, of course.

thompsonx -> RE: Obama Ends War On Terrorism Declares Americans The Enemy (7/7/2010 3:23:09 PM)
quote: Lets hope Congress keeps this guy under control. This guy actually wants to declare American citizens the enemy, and surrender to radical Islam. There is no doubt that we will be withdrawing from Iraq, Wasn't that one of his campagn promises? which in itself may have disastrous consequences, but now he has announced plans that he intends to withdraw from Afghanistan by a certain date which is telling the Taliban, that all they have to do is wait, and we will be gone. Wasn't that another one of his campagn promises? This guy should be impeached for Treason for aiding and abetting the enemy. He also divulged state secrets to the Russians and gave them classified information as to how many nukes we had and where they were located. You mean the russians did not know where they were? How did you find out that their satellites were not working?

Rule -> RE: Obama Ends War On Terrorism Declares Americans The Enemy (7/7/2010 3:30:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Fellow Pulling troops out of the middle East would eliminate external terrorism completely. Didn't Bush once also announce that the war was just about over? He did not mean it. Neither has the current president any intention to end this war.

MMercurial -> RE: Obama Ends War On Terrorism Declares Americans The Enemy (7/7/2010 3:33:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Fellow I think, the foreign terrorism threat on US soil is basically eliminated. What?!?? Wasn't there some military muslim that shot and killed a bunch of U.S. Soldiers at Ft. Hood? Didn't some muslim try to set a bomb in Times Square? Don't I wish foreign terrorism was "eliminated."

jlf1961 -> RE: Obama Ends War On Terrorism Declares Americans The Enemy (7/7/2010 3:34:01 PM)
America is imploding? Every free market economy on the planet is in turmoil. Some are in worse shape than others. The truth of the matter is that the "world economy" is easily impacted by one or two first world nations having economic problems. It is nothing new, for even during the crash of 29, the depression that followed was felt world wide, again in some countries more than others. Add to that the fact that human society seems to have developed a craving for violence, it would seem that civilization is on the verge of some significant change. Just what form that change is to take is the question. I sincerely doubt that a single world government is anywhere in the near future, too many people would fight it. Not to mention the fact that the fundamental philosophy differences between cultures would make an effective world government nearly impossible.

NorthernGent -> RE: Obama Ends War On Terrorism Declares Americans The Enemy (7/7/2010 3:47:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 I sincerely doubt that a single world government is anywhere in the near future, too many people would fight it. Not to mention the fact that the fundamental philosophy differences between cultures would make an effective world government nearly impossible. There would have to be a collective memory loss....with the enlightenment...plus liberal and conservative ideals.....simply forgotten......or there would have to be a co-ordinated attempt to brainwash billions of people to the extent that political freedom was no longer valued. The trend in political history is towards individual freedom......as opposed to away from it....stretching from Plato....to Machiavelli and Luther.....to Hobbes/Locke/Spinoza...to Nietzsche and the German romanticists....to Isaiah Berlin.....there would have to be a hitherto unknown reversal in the trend.....unlikely....although I suppose there's no guarantee that the future will follow the past.

jlf1961 -> RE: Obama Ends War On Terrorism Declares Americans The Enemy (7/7/2010 4:10:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent There would have to be a collective memory loss....with the enlightenment...plus liberal and conservative ideals.....simply forgotten......or there would have to be a co-ordinated attempt to brainwash billions of people to the extent that political freedom was no longer valued. The trend in political history is towards individual freedom......as opposed to away from it....stretching from Plato....to Machiavelli and Luther.....to Hobbes/Locke/Spinoza...to Nietzsche and the German romanticists....to Isaiah Berlin.....there would have to be a hitherto unknown reversal in the trend.....unlikely....although I suppose there's no guarantee that the future will follow the past. You must also consider the fact that the Type A personality is allegedly the majority on the planet and trying to get that many people to give up control is asking for a miracle that is on the scale of being biblical.

Elisabella -> RE: Obama Ends War On Terrorism Declares Americans The Enemy (7/7/2010 4:22:08 PM)
quote: There would have to be a collective memory loss....with the enlightenment...plus liberal and conservative ideals.....simply forgotten......or there would have to be a co-ordinated attempt to brainwash billions of people to the extent that political freedom was no longer valued. I think if there were a world war devastating enough, people would cling to whatever promised to make it never happen again.

Nineveh -> RE: Obama Ends War On Terrorism Declares Americans The Enemy (7/7/2010 4:35:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: Lets hope Congress keeps this guy under control. This guy actually wants to declare American citizens the enemy, and surrender to radical Islam. There is no doubt that we will be withdrawing from Iraq, Wasn't that one of his campagn promises? which in itself may have disastrous consequences, but now he has announced plans that he intends to withdraw from Afghanistan by a certain date which is telling the Taliban, that all they have to do is wait, and we will be gone. Wasn't that another one of his campagn promises? This guy should be impeached for Treason for aiding and abetting the enemy. He also divulged state secrets to the Russians and gave them classified information as to how many nukes we had and where they were located. You mean the russians did not know where they were? How did you find out that their satellites were not working? The way I understood his campaign promises they included pulling out of Iraq and focusing harder on Afghanistan. I'll be pretty shocked if he announces a withdrawal date for Afghanistan, but in a good way.

Nineveh -> RE: Obama Ends War On Terrorism Declares Americans The Enemy (7/7/2010 4:37:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MMercurial quote: ORIGINAL: Fellow I think, the foreign terrorism threat on US soil is basically eliminated. What?!?? Wasn't there some military muslim that shot and killed a bunch of U.S. Soldiers at Ft. Hood? Didn't some muslim try to set a bomb in Times Square? Don't I wish foreign terrorism was "eliminated." Both of those acts were perpetrated by American citizens. That makes them acts of domestic terrorism, not foreign terrorism.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama Ends War On Terrorism Declares Americans The Enemy (7/7/2010 4:37:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nineveh quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: Lets hope Congress keeps this guy under control. This guy actually wants to declare American citizens the enemy, and surrender to radical Islam. There is no doubt that we will be withdrawing from Iraq, Wasn't that one of his campagn promises? which in itself may have disastrous consequences, but now he has announced plans that he intends to withdraw from Afghanistan by a certain date which is telling the Taliban, that all they have to do is wait, and we will be gone. Wasn't that another one of his campagn promises? This guy should be impeached for Treason for aiding and abetting the enemy. He also divulged state secrets to the Russians and gave them classified information as to how many nukes we had and where they were located. You mean the russians did not know where they were? How did you find out that their satellites were not working? The way I understood his campaign promises they included pulling out of Iraq and focusing harder on Afghanistan. I'll be pretty shocked if he announces a withdrawal date for Afghanistan, but in a good way. You mean the July 2011 date he announced like months ago?

Nineveh -> RE: Obama Ends War On Terrorism Declares Americans The Enemy (7/7/2010 4:39:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: Nineveh quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: Lets hope Congress keeps this guy under control. This guy actually wants to declare American citizens the enemy, and surrender to radical Islam. There is no doubt that we will be withdrawing from Iraq, Wasn't that one of his campagn promises? which in itself may have disastrous consequences, but now he has announced plans that he intends to withdraw from Afghanistan by a certain date which is telling the Taliban, that all they have to do is wait, and we will be gone. Wasn't that another one of his campagn promises? This guy should be impeached for Treason for aiding and abetting the enemy. He also divulged state secrets to the Russians and gave them classified information as to how many nukes we had and where they were located. You mean the russians did not know where they were? How did you find out that their satellites were not working? The way I understood his campaign promises they included pulling out of Iraq and focusing harder on Afghanistan. I'll be pretty shocked if he announces a withdrawal date for Afghanistan, but in a good way. You mean the July 2011 date he announced like months ago? That's what I get for not following the mainstream media. I am shocked, in a good way.

Fellow -> RE: Obama Ends War On Terrorism Declares Americans The Enemy (7/7/2010 4:39:53 PM)
quote: He did not mean it. Neither has the current president any intention to end this war. Russians felt the same way in 1988. A few months later they did run from Afghanistan. Obama did set a goal for summer 2011. I am not sure if they can drag it so far.

jin99 -> RE: Obama Ends War On Terrorism Declares Americans The Enemy (7/7/2010 5:55:09 PM)
American domestic terrorists already shot two guards to death in the Holocaust museum and assassinated an abortion clinic. Barack Obama receives 1,200 death threats per day, as compared to Bush's 400. Either Obama is 3 times more popular, or much of that is race-motivated. The withdraw was decided after 2 things. 1. The majority of the American people no longer wanted to fight this war and withdrew their mandate by electing a president who promised to end it 2. The democratically elected Iraqi government told Bush through the US ambassador that they want the US to leave their soil, on a clearly defined time table, published in the immediate future and to leave no later than 2010 or so--and Bush agreed. Unless you want to flout the will of the legitimate Iraqi government, you must leave. The war, in case you have not noticed, had been won if victory is defined by the destruction of Al-Qaeda forces in Iraq. It is dead. The rest of the sectarian stuff does not concern the US. If the Iraq government need help, the US had already given them the number to call--if there is need, the US forces will be recalled on the initiative of the Iraqi state. In case you have not noticed, too, the war in Afghanistan's withdraw time table is subject to change if there is a need-to, as Robert Gates briefed the Congress. Obama is not one to stick to a deadline if the job isn't done. Such as the stimulus plan and health care reform.

rulemylife -> RE: Obama Ends War On Terrorism Declares Americans The Enemy (7/7/2010 7:23:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Elisabella I think if there were a world war devastating enough, people would cling to whatever promised to make it never happen again. If you believe that then you are truly naive and I suggest you study the atrocities of World War I and how people and countries promised just that. Yet somehow we had World War II.

jlf1961 -> RE: Obama Ends War On Terrorism Declares Americans The Enemy (7/7/2010 8:23:24 PM)
Looking back at the twentieth century, there was World War I in the teens, the twenties went through with no major war, then you had World War two that started in the thirties and went through 1945, in the fifties we had korea, in the sixties and seventies we had Vietnam, a couple of short wars in the middle east, and in the eighties there was the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, in the 90's we had the 1st Gulf War, the nice little war going on in what used to be Yugoslavia, then in the first decade of the 21st century we have the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Since the beginning of recorded history, there has never been a sustained period of peace anywhere on the planet. That is at least 4510 years! You really think that one war, that epitomizes all that his terrible about war would actually bring about a world government? More likely it would exterminate 3/4's of the earth's population, leave isolated pockets of humanity trying to survive and technology in the toilet. Granted, maybe human would rebuild and build a better world with less pollution etc, but the odds are they will most likely rediscover all the wonderful ways to kill each other.

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