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RE: Male submissive's declaration of principles - 7/15/2005 2:37:47 PM

onceburned

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ORIGINAL: lonewolf05
am i just plain stupidly ignorant or did i miss something in that story from the link? it made absolutely NO sense to me.

what was the supposed to be message i was to get from it?

Since Magiqual last visited Collarme in April, I will respond.

I agree that it is a little confusing - the link (as provided) takes us into the middle of the site, and its like entering the middle of a conversation.

Here is a snippet from the homepage, which puts it into perspective:

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This quiet grove is offered as a safe haven in the BDSM world. It's a place for submissives and dominants to reflect on, celebrate, and consider the submissive life. You'll find sexuality and spirituality in deep measure, though rarely what the common masses seek.

http://www.bigrock.com/~trance/index.html

So.... no message, just food for thought.

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RE: Male submissive's declaration of principles - 7/15/2005 8:08:24 PM

Morghan

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One of the greatest gaps I see in the submissive men I talk to is that they don't talk to other submissive men! They seem very isolated, seeking out only the company of their opposites. Perhaps its an extension of the typical female/male roles of communicator and non-emotional strength still seeping in. Perhaps its the insecurity they feel, taking a risk every time the step into this unsanctioned world of male submission. Thoughts on that?

Also walking the walk is vital. Even among good subs, I've seen time and time again they get insecure and panic, then run from the Domme they've begun to fall for. Its strange how many self sabotage and regret it later. But that was covered in the original post.

~Morghan

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RE: Male submissive's declaration of principles - 7/15/2005 8:25:40 PM

imtempting

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ORIGINAL: ElektraUkM

I wonder if it could be said that 90% of all male dominants are not really dominants at all, just horny guys who want to orgasm in an (insert description of preference) manner, and once they do they don't give a damn about anyone but themselves?

I would extend that possibility to many dominants who are in perfectly functioning relationships with submissives. I would do that because there is, as far as I see it, a 'get out' for dominants (putting myself in the firing line here!)... in the fact that there is an assumption that a dominant, as long as he's pleasing himself, is doing it RIGHT. If the sub doesn't like what he's doing, how he's dominating her (or not) in the rest of her life, that's ok, because it's deemed to be his style of domination.

What I'm trying to point out is, that perhaps the very same number of males in dominant positions MAY be just as "self-serving", but they're not despised or outed in anywhere near the numbers, or to anything like the extent, as those in submissive roles are.

~ Elektra

I like most of what you wrote. Ive cut some things out but its mostly what you wrote.

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RE: Male submissive's declaration of principles - 7/15/2005 8:29:56 PM

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with all the hoo ra about being 2000 and something....i find the majority of males, of any age or walk of life..are still living back in the yester years.
why?
it escapes MY logic.! yet they will tell you out of one side of their mouth how much better THEIR choices are over mine coz i am not into sex or play or love.......and the other side of their mouth just mumbles when ya ask them to speak up.
not all. majority.

makes NO sense.

and as to running away? i have NO idea. esp. since "I" myself do not GET involved, emotionally.

so i have 2 "i don't know" answers.

sorry.

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