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LaTigresse -> RE: How does pornography make you feel about yourself? (7/8/2010 9:34:01 AM)

I do not care for porn therefor I generally do not watch porn. Porn does not MAKE me feel anything about myself. It's just.......meh...

In fact, I think there are a few DVD's in the back of a closet somewhere, that have been there for years and never even opened.




lusciouslips19 -> RE: How does pornography make you feel about yourself? (7/8/2010 9:35:01 AM)

The only porn I like is from Kink.com. I like sexandsubmission. That Mark Davis really does it for me.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: How does pornography make you feel about yourself? (7/8/2010 9:36:40 AM)

Oh that Mark Davis is some HOT!! I would do him. With really complex bondage, and nipple clamps attached to him with the chain around my neck...

Um. Okay, some porn gives me Ideas!! [:D]




juliaoceania -> RE: How does pornography make you feel about yourself? (7/8/2010 9:38:49 AM)

You are dating the wrong women...

There is something very hot and kinky about a man I love using porn as he uses me...


I have been this way since I was a newly wed...


In fact I was let down when I dated one guy that thought porn was disgusting and abusive to women...


Just me, etc




Somethingrandom -> RE: How does pornography make you feel about yourself? (7/8/2010 10:14:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble


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ORIGINAL: Somethingrandom



Maybe turning this around could make it easier for you to understand.  Suppose my girlfriend wanted to watch a romantic drama, like that "Twilight" garbage......suppose every time the guy said something, I had a negative comment?


You mean like calling it garbage? That seems like a fairly negative comment to me.



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Wouldn't that sound pretty strange and fucked-up?


You just did what you are complaining about. Does that sound strange and fucked up?




Actually, no "Bitatruble", I didn't "just do" what I was commenting, not complaining, about.  That's what the word "suppose" generally means: that someone is postulating a hypothetical situation.  That scenario never occured, and never would, because I wouldn't let myself be persuaded to sit down to something I'm already sure I'd dislike.

It was an imaginary example given for absurd contrast, but you took it quite literally. Maybe you'd profit from thinking about that. Have a nice life.




ShoreBound149 -> RE: How does pornography make you feel about yourself? (7/8/2010 10:15:38 AM)

It makes me feel hard.....and like I could have an acting career.




Somethingrandom -> RE: How does pornography make you feel about yourself? (7/8/2010 10:17:04 AM)

Thank you for the comment, LaTigresse.  Perhaps you did not mean it in that way, but your comment struck me as a good one because of the phrasing.

It can certainly be argued that nothing and no one are the cause of our reactions, that there is an individual, internal and conscious decision about how to feel and react.  We can and do "program" ourselves, and "unprogramming" is equally possible.




Somethingrandom -> RE: How does pornography make you feel about yourself? (7/8/2010 10:27:01 AM)


Thanks, juliaoceania, I appreciate your thoughts.  I'm a trifle surprised that you've encountered several men who are not into porn.

I've heard numerous women say that they've attempted to broach the subject of kink with presumably-vanilla boyfriends, and have usually gotten the horrified "I would never hit a woman" reaction. 

Somehow, I'm dubious that this is entirely sincere on the part of all of these men, or even most of them.

It's been my experience that women filter. They look for reasons to reject. That's the way nature designed us to behave, after all.  To many men, this may sound like a "trick question", a game to see if he is "abusive" and can be conned into admitting it.  So, they try to say the Politically Correct things to get past that test.. Nauseating, but I suspect it it is true in many cases.




Somethingrandom -> RE: How does pornography make you feel about yourself? (7/8/2010 10:28:52 AM)

LOL, ShoreBound!  But don't you also get that sensation almost every time you walk out of a vanilla movie theater?  ("That was mediocre at best.....I could do so much better")




MissSepphora1 -> RE: How does pornography make you feel about yourself? (7/8/2010 10:35:59 AM)

i don't enjoy watching women in porn because all i can think is they don't look like they are really enjoying it. there is always that look in their eye like they wish they were doing anything but having sex.
now... gay porn i like. EVERYONE looks like they are really into it and having an awesome time.
what does that say about me?




Somethingrandom -> RE: How does pornography make you feel about yourself? (7/8/2010 10:38:38 AM)

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LadyHibiscus


I'm not surprised you enjoy Mark, LadyHibiscus.  He's got talent and looks. I'm only sorry that he appears in so much kinky porn, because he is an instant erection-killer for me.

I joined a hardcore kinky porn site, and was disappointed to discover that there was very little mixture of bondage and actual sex (thankfully that changed...I'm guessing this was a real or imagined legal issue, but that's beside the point..)

I also was a trifle surprised to note that every single actor wore a condom, in every scene, and I said so on their message boards.  After all, condoms are almost nonexistent in mainstream porn. 

Mark replied to my post directly,  sarcastically and negatively saying that of course he wears condoms, that he'd no more go without them than go swimming in a tank of hungry sharks.  Well, he achieved his goal of losing them a customer, and I left. I notice that now he does NOT wear condoms in any of these films, so perhaps I was not the only one to comment on it.

Anytime that hypocrite is in a film, it's a total buzzkill. Which is a shame, since he's paired with some of the best actresses.




mnottertail -> RE: How does pornography make you feel about yourself? (7/8/2010 10:40:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MissSepphora1

i don't enjoy watching women in porn because all i can think is they don't look like they are really enjoying it. there is always that look in their eye like they wish they were doing anything but having sex.
now... gay porn i like. EVERYONE looks like they are really into it and having an awesome time.
what does that say about me?


For a good time call?

LOL




Somethingrandom -> RE: How does pornography make you feel about yourself? (7/8/2010 10:46:01 AM)

Hi, Miss Sephora.  I'm not sure I agree.  I've got some gay friends, and I will say that their ability to
treat sex like nothing more than a recreation is refreshing contrasted with the elaborate rituals
the straight dating world goes through.

Their porn, though?  I've rarely noticed anyone in a gay video speak or change expression during sex, almost as if they are robots.

As for females, I agree that many have that "I'm not into this" look on their faces. There is even a niche for this
type of porn (Desperate Amateurs website paid a lesbian woman to give a man a blow job, for example).

The opposite is even worse....the fake, loud, and dissociative screaming that too many of the girls do.  Ugh.




Somethingrandom -> RE: How does pornography make you feel about yourself? (7/8/2010 10:48:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RCdc

False breasts are hideous though.
The rest is just insecurities or more likely, nerves.  Women aren't supposed to like or enjoy porn.  It's stereotypical sure, but porn is for men.  Women get weird looks when mentioning they like porn, trust me - it's like admitting you play Xbox with your partner and enjoy doing it.[:D]
Nerves makes people jabber.  You can hardly discuss the latest political climate during a porn film, so the film is the target.  Besides most people already know that porn is badly acted with poor sets, that's just a given.

And I'd be more worried that your dating a twilight fan.[&:]
Mark my words, there will be years of theraphy.

the.dark.





What a great insight, I'm embarassed it didn't occur to me.  Nervous jabbering. Makes sense. Thanks RCdc.




windchymes -> RE: How does pornography make you feel about yourself? (7/8/2010 10:56:03 AM)

For me, porn is strictly entertaining, sometimes arousing, and over the years it has become much less arousing, lol.  It has absolutely nothing to do with any way that I feel about myself, those two concepts are in different ball parks.


edited to add:  I'd like to buy an "e"




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: How does pornography make you feel about yourself? (7/8/2010 11:16:49 AM)

I am annoyed with stuff like ugly women, obviously fake boobs, , and stuff like that because I know porn, I realistically expect the sets, the acting, everything in it to be basically cheesy, what I do not expect and tolerate, is ugly women, women who can't be realistic enough in their fake moans or reactions to be believable.

I remember one of the worst porno scenes I have seen to date, the woman was saying oh yeah, oh fuck me oh yes ect ect ect. BUT! and here's the catch. She sounded utterly bored. The only time she sounded enthusiastic or realistic was when she was dirty talking to the guy about his having just cum.


Another time, this buck tooth ugly woman, was trying to be sexy and sensual and it just came off so stupid. It was a porno about wet panties, she was in a pool splashing water onto the crotch of her panties, and saying something about how wet panties are hot, do you like wet panties" do you like MY wet panties"

It was just so lame and so stupid, and the girl wasn't even remotely sexy with her bad teeth and mediocre looks.

I watch porn for the good sex, and interesting things I can see in it, sometimes I will watch it just to laugh at the sheer stupidity of it, like the one time the fem dom group and I watched midget porn, where the midget pretended to be an alien, and all the green dye they used to color him green, rubbed off onto the pussy and the thighs of the woman he was pussy eating.

If the acting is horrible, and the women are ugly, or to lame to be convincing, I have given a running commentary consisting of comments like, ,

"this is stupid"

" this is lame"

"this is boreing, lame and stupid"

" her boobs are obviously so fake" 

" SHE herself is so fake"

"She's such a horrible actor, she couldn't convince her way out of a wet paper sack, that she likes this or is enjoying it"

Better done porn, keeps my interests, and I do not comment on things like her false boobs, or her bleached out hair do. I watch, and I get hot , and horny and ready to fuck.

But bad poorly done porn? Yeah, not a turn on. it's a turn OFF, and I start commenting out of sheer boredom.


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ORIGINAL: Somethingrandom

I've always appreciated and enjoyed pornography, and continued to view it even
while within very sexually-satisfying relationships.

On several occasions, I have tried to get various women to join me watching, as a prelude
and enhancement to sex.  This has always backfired rather spectacularly.

What I've found most striking is that the women did not comment on the rather obvious
flaws in porn......horrible acting, absurd situations, sleazy sets, crappy lighting and camerawork.
No comments on those aspects.  Also, if the porn focused on an explicit fetish, there was not even any comment on the outlandish fetish.

So, what DID the women say?  A running commentary on the looks of the actresses, all negative.
    "Those boobs are fake"
     "Look, she has stretch marks on the back of her thighs!"
     "She obviously bleaches her hair"
     "Her nose is crooked"

Etcetera......

I find this mytifying.  It was not as if I were making a running commentary on how GREAT the women looked in the movie.  This was not a counter to anything I had said.

There wasn't any real reluctance or resistance to my invitation to watch porn......yet it seemed as if the women were working as hard as they could to poison it. 

My question is...WHY?

So......can anyone shed some light, here?  Porn certainly can be boring, and very UNsexy, even to a fan like me at times.  But getting the exact-same reaction over many years, from so many different women makes me wonder what the heck is going through their minds?












Somethingrandom -> RE: How does pornography make you feel about yourself? (7/8/2010 11:21:47 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RCdc

False breasts are hideous though.
The rest is just insecurities or more likely, nerves.  Women aren't supposed to like or enjoy porn.  It's stereotypical sure, but porn is for men.  Women get weird looks when mentioning they like porn, trust me - it's like admitting you play Xbox with your partner and enjoy doing it.[:D]
Nerves makes people jabber.  You can hardly discuss the latest political climate during a porn film, so the film is the target.  Besides most people already know that porn is badly acted with poor sets, that's just a given.

And I'd be more worried that your dating a twilight fan.[&:]
Mark my words, there will be years of theraphy.

the.dark. 


I am not dating a twilight fan. Two hard limits: cigarette smoking, and being a twit.






Aneirin -> RE: How does pornography make you feel about yourself? (7/8/2010 11:22:33 AM)

I don't so much like out and out porn, as I find it does very little for me to be presented with the obvious, but what I do like is erotica, stuff that allows my mind to wander, an image giving way to brain sex. But of pornography I also like the kink.com productions, for it is not just BDSM and sex, but it is the atmosphere they put into their productions, I love the decor and the lighting used it is to me very attractive and I can appreciate more from the scene. Yeah, dungeons and the subterranean I like, it is my idea when it comes to BDSM, the right enviroment. I also particularly like the infernal restraints and device bondage type stuff, the use of heavy metal, firescale rust and worn highlights and it's contrast with flesh appeals so much, and again the lighting used, the contrasts even in that, skin becoming almost pure white.

How does it make me feel, well, to me it is escape from my world into the realms of fantasy and as I am very visually stimulated, I seek what pleases me, the hard edgier dark, damp dungeons stuff with raw elements clearly visible. Stone, undressed wood, leather, chain, rust and of course flesh.

But of the OP, my understanding is perhaps some women feel threatened by pornography, threatened in a way that a woman does not really know the person she is with either through a clear failure in communication between the two, which sadly is the usual way, or for a woman to fail to understand male sexuality, which comes down to open and honest communication again.

In my limited experience I have found the women I have been with do not care or say they do not care for pornography, and the last saying it was complete sick, but she was not really suited to myself, but what I have found, whereas men are quite happy to reveal fantasies, women, or at least the women I have been with will not admit to having fantasies beyond just good sex. A person  who is unable to fantasise, to me lacks imagination and unimaginative people I do not want to be with again, so if I find someone, it is tome imperative that they have a free and easy open minded imagination, or at least be of my own kind, i.e. kinky to the core.




heartcream -> RE: How does pornography make you feel about yourself? (7/8/2010 11:31:14 AM)

Not a big fan of porn myself. Simply dont dig it.

There is a CM'r that I followed links around to find some pretty intense stuff filmed with him in it and that was pretty wild to watch. I had a Cmail connection with him and in a small way felt like I 'knew' him so to see him on film was wild. I kind of liked that, was fascinated by it but all in all I dont give a hoot about porn.

It doesnt make me feel much, kind of like soap operas I am not into them.




eibhlinauvert -> RE: How does pornography make you feel about yourself? (7/8/2010 11:34:28 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Somethingrandom

I've always appreciated and enjoyed pornography, and continued to view it even
while within very sexually-satisfying relationships.

On several occasions, I have tried to get various women to join me watching, as a prelude
and enhancement to sex.  This has always backfired rather spectacularly.

What I've found most striking is that the women did not comment on the rather obvious
flaws in porn......horrible acting, absurd situations, sleazy sets, crappy lighting and camerawork.
No comments on those aspects.  Also, if the porn focused on an explicit fetish, there was not even any comment on the outlandish fetish.

So, what DID the women say?  A running commentary on the looks of the actresses, all negative.
    "Those boobs are fake"
     "Look, she has stretch marks on the back of her thighs!"
     "She obviously bleaches her hair"
     "Her nose is crooked"

Etcetera......

I find this mytifying.  It was not as if I were making a running commentary on how GREAT the women looked in the movie.  This was not a counter to anything I had said.

There wasn't any real reluctance or resistance to my invitation to watch porn......yet it seemed as if the women were working as hard as they could to poison it. 

My question is...WHY?  Does it really matter what gave me a raging hard on?  Maybe it's 80% your hand down my pants, and 20% the porn.    Maybe vice-versa.  The result is the same, so why the negative talk?

One woman in particular who did this, I am not exaggerating, could easily have been a porn superstar herself, looks and skills. But she acted like all the rest.  Puzzling.

Now, here's the thing------ when I see MALE actors in porn, I don't feel in the slightest bit compelled to put them down. They have huge cocks, insane stamina, and are often athletic and very handsome.   It would never occur to me in a million years to feel insecure about my girlfriend seeing a guy like that naked and performing in porn.  There's no comparison going on, after all.
He's a pro, like a football player, or a soldier.  A completely different type of guy from me.

Would I enjoy being like him? Eh, maybe once in a while.  Maybe in fantasy.  But does he make me hate him, or make me feel insecure? No, that would be insane.

So......can anyone shed some light, here?  Porn certainly can be boring, and very UNsexy, even to a fan like me at times.  But getting the exact-same reaction over many years, from so many different women makes me wonder what the heck is going through their minds?

Maybe turning this around could make it easier for you to understand.  Suppose my girlfriend wanted to watch a romantic drama, like that "Twilight" garbage......suppose every time the guy said something, I had a negative comment?

   "He doesn't really love her, he just wants to fuck her."
   "Her boyfriend obviously likes her sister better."
   "This guy talks like a little girl"
    "Clearly, the hero likes boys better than girls"

Wouldn't that sound pretty strange and fucked-up?









Hiya, I watch porn sometimes, doesnt make me feel anything negative about myself. I'm not really watching it to compare myself to other women on it. As for the men being "hot" in it. You must be watchin gay porn. [;)]




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