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RE: Going organic - 7/13/2010 8:30:47 AM

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I'm all for eating organic for the dirty dozen (the foods that absorb the most pesticides). I eat A LOT of produce which is probably more reason for me to eat organic, but I can't afford to pay Sallie Mae half of my paycheck and eat organic. I don't think that EVERYTHING needs to be organic. I don't eat egg yolks so buying the "organic" eggs makes little sense. Do what makes sense within your budget range.

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RE: Going organic - 7/16/2010 3:53:19 AM

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There is a tendency to think organically grown produce is healthier because it is "pesticide free". Perhaps, but the farmer has to get it mature and out of there fast before the bugs get it, so they tend to use a lot of farm manure.

So...bug spray vs E Coli.......

You can reduce the effects of pesticides by washing the produce. There is nothing you can do about the E Coli.

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RE: Going organic - 7/16/2010 8:28:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

There is a tendency to think organically grown produce is healthier because it is "pesticide free". Perhaps, but the farmer has to get it mature and out of there fast before the bugs get it, so they tend to use a lot of farm manure.

So...bug spray vs E Coli.......

You can reduce the effects of pesticides by washing the produce. There is nothing you can do about the E Coli.

Not all pesticides can be washed away and its important to remember that its impossible to eradicate all pesticides from our tap water and so unless you have a water purifier, your wasting your time.

Back in the 50s and 60s we used DDT and chlordane. Those pesticides are still found in our bodies today, even in children born long after the chemicals were banned in the US
The human body is not designed to cope with synthetic pesticides. It’s a cocktail of chemicals designed to kill insects and weeds.
They may well not cause E Colie but many of the pesticides we carry in our bodies can cause cancer, decrease fertility, cause birth defects and weaken our immune system.
Worse still, children carry the highest levels of pesticides and its too early to predict what the long term effects will be.
Synthetic pesticides are known to have multiple harmful effects when crossing the placenta during fetal development. These include reduced infant birth weight, reproductive problems including low sperm counts and other fertility problems later in life and disruption of neurological development which can lead to learning disabilities.
Carbamate pesticides effect the human nervous system, Organochlorines are hormone disruptors and 15 of the ingredients they put into synthetic pesticides are carcinogenic.
Its virtually impossible to eradicate all foods containing pesticides but we can reduce them.

This http://www.ota.com/organic/foodsafety/ecoli.html shows that your no more likely to get E Coli from organic food than you are from un-organic food.

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RE: Going organic - 7/17/2010 7:52:01 AM

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Not all pesticides can be washed away and its important to remember that its impossible to eradicate all pesticides from our tap water and so unless you have a water purifier, your wasting your time.

None can be completely washed away, thats why i said "reduced". You can use a 20:1 water and bleach solution to wash the produce, then rinse and rinse and rinse.

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This http://www.ota.com/organic/foodsafety/ecoli.html shows that your no more likely to get E Coli from organic food than you are from un-organic food.

You can get EColi from produce grown with animal manure if the animal is infected. The majority of non -organic growers in this area do not use manure because it is too time consuming, costly and messy.
And i don't really care what the article states. If the grower uses infected manure, you run one hell of a chance of getting EColi. Whether or not you know it is another story, as a mild case can present as a touch of an intestinal virus.

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RE: Going organic - 7/17/2010 8:03:56 AM

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I'm trying to grow my own.

In the store, I buy organic apples because I don't need to wash them and they don't last long, so the shorter shelf life isn't an issue. But normally I'm too cheap to go organic.

Steven,

The type of apple makes a huge difference in shelf life.

I grow early varieties and popular varieties, yes, but I also grow varieties like Northern Spys that (properly stored) will keep well for months. Going through apple varieties on the Internet will yield others that keep well.

For other fruits/berries that don't keep well, I just immediately dry or freeze all that beyond which I can sell.

Buying it is a problem. We have lots of farmer's markets here, but their produce is MORE expensive than in the supermarkets--unfortunate, because I'd love to support growing/buying locally. Not blaming the farmers, because I get what goes into it, but it is counterproductive.

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