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joether -> RE: 'Only Terror Attack Can Save Obama' - Clinton Official (7/17/2010 12:16:43 AM)
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
'Only Terror Attack Can Save Obama' - Clinton Official
Just by looking at the site, I can tell A) Its propaganda filled B) 100% conservative...given pahunkboy's history of blogs, and not JOURNALISM and C) Given the A & B, it is HIGHLY likely, there is not alot of accurate information. But the writer hopes your to dumb to think for yourself. 'pahunkboy' and 'willbeurdaddy' should try living in the modern American, and not 1950's America. In modern day, we expect American citizens to be A) Intelligent B) Educated and C) Adult/mature in personality.
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
Sorry- I am sick of CNN/FOX/MSNBC.
Well, at least we both hate Fox News. We share one thing in common. CNN and MSNBC actually do a good job reporting the news. Yes, individual members of each, maybe questionable in nature, but on the whole, they both report pretty accurate and factual news. But, if you dont trust them, try a third source: The BeeB! (BBC in England).
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
But isnt it true that a terror attack would boost Obamas ratings?
Am I the only one here, that would say 'fuck the ratings, lets help our fellow Americans, Damn It!'? Unlike Mr. Bush, the GOP, and most conservatives, Mr. Obama would not really care about ratings. He would care about finding who did the attack, how, and likelyhood of additional attacks. Likewise, he would be dispatching teams to aid in what ever the event was, to shore up Americans caught in the event. He would urge Americans in areas not effected, to help. The guy (Mr. Obama) could have let the bank loans issue slide (and our economy in to ANOTHER depression), like conservatives wanted him to, but he didnt'. He took the steps nessicary steps to prevent that problem. Later, he admitted the truth of it during a State of the Union speech before Congress, and I quote "It went over about as well as a root canal". I dont expect conservatives to understand this.
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ORGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3
A justice system is supposed to treat everyone in a consistent manor
Actually, the correct constitutional phrasing is "The US Consititution was created to treat ALL persons under the goverment's control, equally". You were close, so you get a cookie! This was something, often ignored under the Bush Administration (see 'enemy combants'). Under the US Constitution, all persons, are given rights (i.e. The Bill of Rights). Each person, regardless of their status, can have a lawyer represent them; and if they can not afford one, one will be appointed by the court. Doesn't matter if they are a US Citizen, visiting diplomat, P.O.W., illegal immigrant, or even an Enemy Combatant! Which is why the Arizona Immigration Law will get struct down....violation of the 4th and 5th Amendments.
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ORIGINAL: truckinslave
0bamao and his ilk would blame Booooosh!!!!!!!
No, the GOP (not just Mr. Bush) would be nailed on this one. How often, during the Bush Administration (inlcuding McCain's bid for the President's Office), did we hear conservative Republicans say "If we dont fight them THERE, they will attack us HERE"? Come on, you conservatives, tell me, they never said it. Tell me they didnt say it that often. Yes, people will be more then happy to air all those times, showing in the papers and editorials, every person, whom said it, or similar. Because, right now, we have troops in both those locations (Iraq and Afghanistan), and more likely, elsewhere. The GOP will get thrashed. Assuming any of the Democrats, want to become 5th graders, like the Republicans have been acting like for a decade. I'm sure Democrats will go deal with the problem that has arisen like adults.
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ORIGINAL: Malkinius
How many liberals still blame current problems on Nixon and Regan?
I dont blame Nixon for the current issues going on. Things have evolved enough past him. Besides, he's not a crook, he said so. And we all know, politicans always are 100% truthful with Americans, right? (WMDs in Iraq by Mr. Bush) Mr. Reagan, is still responisible for 4% of the current national debt.
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ORIGINAL: Malkinius
The conservatives do it to a lesser extent with Carter and a somewhat similar amount with Clinton.
Honestly, have you been living on Mars, in a cave, underground, with a blanket over you for the last three years? Conservatives blame Clinton for many things, that weren't even his fault. For example, who was president on 9/11/2001? They even blame Obama, for stuff, that took place during the Bush Administration. Conservatives in America, at present, are not seen as 'intelligent', 'educated', nor 'wise'. Just watch the postings of 'pahunkboy' and 'willbeurdaddy' as evidence that I'm correct.
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
So name a problem Obama didn`t inherit.
The events, AFTER, the pipe exploded in the Gulf of Mexico. The events leading up to that moment, were 30+ years in the making, but Republican de-reguations. And, after three months (hopefully), the issue is contained as far as the oil gushing out of the pipe. Unfortunately, and indeed sadly, the Gulf of Mexico will suffer problems for decades. We can thank the Republicans for help making this event happen in the first place. Lets vote them in to office, so they can FUCK UP another coastline of the USA.
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy
Dont claim you know what I would do when you dont have a fucking clue.
It is rather easy to know what you will do: Anything that is generally not A) intelligent, B) useful to the discussion, or C) Factual. Fortunately for us, none of your posts are longer then three sentences. So it doesnt take to long, destroying your feeble arguements. And some on here, have some REALLY good come backs to your posts.
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ORIGINAL: RedStapler
Obamacare.
Actually, that was a 'made up' term by conservatives. And if we did apply it the way you want it to apply, then it wouldn't be correct, under 'Politiesub53's question. Since 'Obamacare' is health care regulations and laws, that were already on the books, BEFORE, Obama came to office. He, inherited the problem. Frankly, if it was such an important issue to Repbulicans (like illegal immigration), why wasn't it dealt with during the Bush Administration, 1st term (when Republicans controlled the House and Senate)?
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ORIGINAL: RedStapler
Changing the way health insurance works is a worthy goal, but it does little or nothing to address the real problem, which is the exorbitant costs of providing health care. The United States pays far more per capita on health care, by a wide margin. But we're not living longer than the rest of the developed world, nor are we healthier in life. Democrats have claimed victory on health care, and now the real issue of controlling costs is not even being discussed. As usual, the debates over this issue were just one big distraction from the real problems. Such is politics.
Jesus H. Christ! Did you actually read the law? Actually, conservatives are ignorant of the history, that led up to the creation of the final bill it seems. The bill itself (entitled 'Health Care Reform Act of 2010'), is not as good as it could have been. Mr. Obama wanted to bring all Americans together (appealing to our noble spirit), to create a better system for health care, which at the time and still is, a problem. Unfortunately, conservatives, whom HATE Obama (not cus he's black), fought him at every possible milisecond of the bill's creation and vote. If we had the bill, originally created by Mr. Obama, it would have been amazingly good for this country. You should read it as well; its pretty good. Unfortunately, there is much work, still to be done on health care problems within the USA. 'A goverment option', would have added competition to private insurance companies. Private insurance companies, fought back, with waves of misinformation and total lies (see 'death panels'). Not surprisingly to myself, conservatives, ate the stuff up without ever questioning what they were told. They often did not double check the information, and preferred (no idea why) to be ignorant.
While you do not think he's done any real good, I see it quite differently. The guy (Mr. Obama), REALLY does get it. He really does understand the problems. I've listen to his stuff, and it checks out in many areas (not just health care, but in technology, agriculture, foreign policy, etc). Of course he'll make some mistakes along the way. He's human! He is a constitutional scholar. Do you know what that even means? I have no doubt, he could 'school' any conservative on the 2nd Amendment (pun intended).
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