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Rule -> RE: Glenn Beck Reminds Us That Jews Killed Jesus (7/18/2010 7:30:21 AM)
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ORIGINAL: vincentML
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It is a static creation.
Creation is not within my construct of reality
Um, what do you mean by 'construct of reality'? I gather that you mean that in your comprehension of reality an event of either spiritual or physical creation or both is inconceivable and prohibited? That is a non-spiritual, atheistic perception of reality. It is a valid point of view - but it is not the only valid point of view.
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ORIGINAL: vincentML
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It is a static creation.
if it were static from the beginning. Of course then Evolution would not have occurred. And so you see the fallacy in creationism.
Indeed. The perfect creation hypothesis as it is presented by religious creation nuts is a limited one shot, one bullet event, offering no possibility to improve on any mistakes or out-dated products that might be included.
However, there are other spiritual and physical creation scenario's possible, at least one of which is not at odds with physical reality.
As an aside I note that I once read in the science magazine Nature a short piece in which the author argued that a multi-shot creation event that allowed for evolution was far superior to a single shot creation event. I was both envious for him publishing something that I had thought of myself way earlier and I admired him for his intellectual ability.
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ORIGINAL: vincentML
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It is a static creation.
I wonder if you understand what I am saying about projection from current experience into reality of an hypothetically static construct. It should be a pretty easy concept for you to wrap your mind around.
Yes, I knew that I was dealing with Flatland from the point of view of a cube.
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ORIGINAL: vincentML
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Even the Divine gets bored
One has got to be very insecure to desire to be worshiped like that
You are anthropomorphisizing the Divine. Not really an acceptable basis for a discussion and I doubt it is in your arsenal of constructs.
Indeed, I was.
I am very well aware that the Divine has no human attributes and most likely has no true concept of such things as love and misery. The Divine is a sea of bipolar particles and concepts as love and misery in its perception are each represented by a value string of binary digits.
However, we can only hope to comprehend the Divine by extrapolating - or projecting as you call it - from our physical experience, and in particular from the lives and acts of the pagan gods, to the Divine. As on Earth, so in 'Heaven'.
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ORIGINAL: vincentML
Again, for me this discussion is moot because I hold with the crap shoot model of Reality within which algorithmic Evolution occurred in response to the imperatives of changing environments. Chaos, all is chaos until collisions occur between atoms with enough force to form the internal bonds of new molecules, etc. You know the script.
Indeed. And I agree with this script. However, it does not blind me to spiritual and mythological truths and possibilities, provided that they are not at odds with that script (of physical reality).
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