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pahunkboy -> The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship (7/16/2010 5:05:44 PM)
The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship why? why should I pay to get out?

pahunkboy -> RE: The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship (7/16/2010 5:07:12 PM)
Passport Fees Scheduled To Increase. It used to free if you wanted renounce your US citizenship. You could do that for free. Now, it's going to cost $450. Ms. SPRAGUE: That's true.

defiantbadgirl -> RE: The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship (7/16/2010 5:35:22 PM)
The United States is the only country that bases taxes on citizenship. All other countries base it on residency. Since all US citizes have to pay US taxes no matter what country they live and work in, some who have dual citizenships may renounce their US citizenship to avoid paying taxes to two countries at the same time. The $450 one time fee sucks but it's better than paying taxes in both countries every year.

pahunkboy -> RE: The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship (7/16/2010 5:37:12 PM)
My brother is thinking of leaving. That is mind boggling. While he is successfull he is not that rich.

wittynamehere -> RE: The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship (7/16/2010 5:42:59 PM)
When you leave the US you should be GIVEN $450 as an apology for the abuse you endured, not CHARGED $450. Makes no sense.

Lucylastic -> RE: The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship (7/16/2010 5:59:08 PM)
Its a sin tax for leaving the "best country in the world"

pahunkboy -> RE: The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship (7/16/2010 6:06:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: wittynamehere When you leave the US you should be GIVEN $450 as an apology for the abuse you endured, not CHARGED $450. Makes no sense. Yeah. My brother is out of the country right now as we speak.

DCWoody -> RE: The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship (7/16/2010 9:07:38 PM)
US has had an 'emmigration' tax for years for the rich. Never a good sign.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship (7/16/2010 9:19:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl The United States is the only country that bases taxes on citizenship. All other countries base it on residency. Since all US citizes have to pay US taxes no matter what country they live and work in, some who have dual citizenships may renounce their US citizenship to avoid paying taxes to two countries at the same time. The $450 one time fee sucks but it's better than paying taxes in both countries every year. There is no double taxation. There is an offset to US taxes for taxes paid to the foreign country. You wind up paying the higher of the two, but anyone working as an ex-pat has their compensation adjusted if taxes are higher in the other country.

stef -> RE: The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship (7/16/2010 10:00:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship why? why should I pay to get out? Tell you what, Captain Insaneo, if you leave I'll pay your $450. ~stef

willbeurdaddy -> RE: The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship (7/16/2010 10:03:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship why? why should I pay to get out? Tell you what, Captain Insaneo, if you leave I'll pay your $450. ~stef I'll contribute half if he goes somewhere without internet access.

Termyn8or -> RE: The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship (7/16/2010 11:38:29 PM)
Many communist countries have charged alot more. T

slvemike4u -> RE: The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship (7/16/2010 11:58:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship why? why should I pay to get out? Tell you what, Captain Insaneo, if you leave I'll pay your $450. ~stef I'll contribute half if he goes somewhere without internet access. I wonder how much we could raise if you took the same fucking deal!

joether -> RE: The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship (7/17/2010 1:20:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. This is NOT journalism. This is a B-L-O-G. That means, the person doesn't understand what IS and ISN'T, journalism. I would think, even you, are not this dumb, to not know the difference. quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy Passport Fees Scheduled To Increase. It used to free if you wanted renounce your US citizenship. You could do that for free. Now, it's going to cost $450. Ms. SPRAGUE: That's true. Are you REALLY this stupid? Why are the fees increasing, pahunkboy? Can you answer that one for us, first? Maybe you should give the REST of the quote: quote: Ms. SPRAGUE: That's true. And it was, as we've looked around - it is a very complex project. It requires a lot of work on the part of the counselor officer. And we decided that if you're renouncing your U.S. citizenship, you should pay for that rather than having the American taxpayer pay for that service. Can't blame the USA, for trying to save the taxpayer some money. That IS something you conservatives, bitch about all day long, isn't it? Anyone dumb enough to pay this, REALLY doesn't need to come back to our country! quote: ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl The United States is the only country that bases taxes on citizenship. Really? We only tax, based on citizenship? So the INCOME Taxes we pay every year, is based on which one of the following: A) Our Citizenship, B) How much INCOME we made in a year, C) The cost for buying a tree on Alpha Centuari Prime. And those INCOME taxes, are ONLY paid by U.S. Citizens? I bet you wouldn't believe, that nearly 72% of the suspected illegal immigrants, voluntarily pay federal income taxes. I was quite surprised to learn that fact through the CBO (Congressional Budget Office). Also, if you drive a CAR, or TRUCK, in the USA, you pay $.36/gallon for federal taxes. Doesn't matter if your a citizen of the USA or not; you pay the tax! Then there's sales tax, meal tax, estate tax, etc. Second, if a U.S. citizen spends less then one month, inside the USA, they do not pay income taxes. Since they are outside of the USA, they most likely wont pay all the other taxes, state/federal. You dont pay the federal gas tax, while driving around in Italy!

laststab -> RE: The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship (7/17/2010 1:27:47 AM)
Yes, and the taxes that our forefathers revolted against the Brittish over were less than the gas tax we pay all by itself. And when Bernanke tries to print his way out of the second dip in this recession, and China dumps the rest of its Treasury Bonds and no one wants to buy them because the dollar is worthless, we will see a mass exodus from the country as people's feet carry them to food and work, which will be either too costly or non-existent in the U.S.. Oh, but wait, maybe that is why they will start charging to renounce your citizenship.....

willbeurdaddy -> RE: The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship (7/17/2010 2:07:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joether quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. This is NOT journalism. This is a B-L-O-G. That means, the person doesn't understand what IS and ISN'T, journalism. I would think, even you, are not this dumb, to not know the difference. quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy Passport Fees Scheduled To Increase. It used to free if you wanted renounce your US citizenship. You could do that for free. Now, it's going to cost $450. Ms. SPRAGUE: That's true. Are you REALLY this stupid? Why are the fees increasing, pahunkboy? Can you answer that one for us, first? Maybe you should give the REST of the quote: quote: Ms. SPRAGUE: That's true. And it was, as we've looked around - it is a very complex project. It requires a lot of work on the part of the counselor officer. And we decided that if you're renouncing your U.S. citizenship, you should pay for that rather than having the American taxpayer pay for that service. Can't blame the USA, for trying to save the taxpayer some money. That IS something you conservatives, bitch about all day long, isn't it? Anyone dumb enough to pay this, REALLY doesn't need to come back to our country! quote: ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl The United States is the only country that bases taxes on citizenship. Really? We only tax, based on citizenship? So the INCOME Taxes we pay every year, is based on which one of the following: A) Our Citizenship, B) How much INCOME we made in a year, C) The cost for buying a tree on Alpha Centuari Prime. And those INCOME taxes, are ONLY paid by U.S. Citizens? I bet you wouldn't believe, that nearly 72% of the suspected illegal immigrants, voluntarily pay federal income taxes. I was quite surprised to learn that fact through the CBO (Congressional Budget Office). Also, if you drive a CAR, or TRUCK, in the USA, you pay $.36/gallon for federal taxes. Doesn't matter if your a citizen of the USA or not; you pay the tax! Then there's sales tax, meal tax, estate tax, etc. Second, if a U.S. citizen spends less then one month, inside the USA, they do not pay income taxes. Since they are outside of the USA, they most likely wont pay all the other taxes, state/federal. You dont pay the federal gas tax, while driving around in Italy! the next time you call Hunk a "conservative" im going to send someone to hunt down your ugly ass!

pahunkboy -> RE: The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship (7/17/2010 6:26:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joether quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. This is NOT journalism. This is a B-L-O-G. That means, the person doesn't understand what IS and ISN'T, journalism. I would think, even you, are not this dumb, to not know the difference. quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy Passport Fees Scheduled To Increase. It used to free if you wanted renounce your US citizenship. You could do that for free. Now, it's going to cost $450. Ms. SPRAGUE: That's true. Are you REALLY this stupid? Why are the fees increasing, pahunkboy? Can you answer that one for us, first? Maybe you should give the REST of the quote: quote: Ms. SPRAGUE: That's true. And it was, as we've looked around - it is a very complex project. It requires a lot of work on the part of the counselor officer. And we decided that if you're renouncing your U.S. citizenship, you should pay for that rather than having the American taxpayer pay for that service. Can't blame the USA, for trying to save the taxpayer some money. That IS something you conservatives, bitch about all day long, isn't it? Anyone dumb enough to pay this, REALLY doesn't need to come back to our country! quote: ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl The United States is the only country that bases taxes on citizenship. Really? We only tax, based on citizenship? So the INCOME Taxes we pay every year, is based on which one of the following: A) Our Citizenship, B) How much INCOME we made in a year, C) The cost for buying a tree on Alpha Centuari Prime. And those INCOME taxes, are ONLY paid by U.S. Citizens? I bet you wouldn't believe, that nearly 72% of the suspected illegal immigrants, voluntarily pay federal income taxes. I was quite surprised to learn that fact through the CBO (Congressional Budget Office). Also, if you drive a CAR, or TRUCK, in the USA, you pay $.36/gallon for federal taxes. Doesn't matter if your a citizen of the USA or not; you pay the tax! Then there's sales tax, meal tax, estate tax, etc. Second, if a U.S. citizen spends less then one month, inside the USA, they do not pay income taxes. Since they are outside of the USA, they most likely wont pay all the other taxes, state/federal. You dont pay the federal gas tax, while driving around in Italy! You are funny. This is on NPR.

pahunkboy -> RE: The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship (7/17/2010 6:34:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship why? why should I pay to get out? Tell you what, Captain Insaneo, if you leave I'll pay your $450. ~stef I'll contribute half if he goes somewhere without internet access. Actually you all refused a deal on which I was to be paid $20. So pretty much tightwad city this crowd.

stef -> RE: The U.S. Has Implemented a $450 Fee for Those Who Want to Renounce U.S. Citizenship (7/18/2010 3:18:44 PM)
What deal was that, Captain Insaneo? ~stef

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